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D for Defiant
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posted September 07, 2006 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message
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posted September 08, 2006 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluemoon     Edit/Delete Message

I wish you the best, D.

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D for Defiant
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posted September 08, 2006 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message
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posted September 08, 2006 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alope     Edit/Delete Message
I hope everything turns out okay.

Positive energy on it's way...

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posted September 08, 2006 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluemoon     Edit/Delete Message
you are most welcome, D! Be well! let us know.

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fayte.m
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posted September 08, 2006 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Good health and good fortune to you.

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sue g
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posted September 09, 2006 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Sending health healing and light from the Emerald Isle......

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D for Defiant
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posted September 09, 2006 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message
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posted September 09, 2006 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
D

I used to get a lot of sore throats and glandular fever, where my throat used to almost close up and I felt like I couldnt breathe.

In time I learned that it was because I wasnt speaking my truth and when I learned to express my feelings in a calm way, I didnt get a problem with my throat anymore..

As others have said here, keep expressing and dont bottle things up and in time your throat may become less of a problem.

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posted September 09, 2006 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
D for Defiant
If your throat is an actual physical problem, that is just a thing of life. Please do not attach guilt to it. I hate it when folks try to blame ills on spiritual reasons.
That is akin to saying only evil and sin cause disease! The same rotten bigotry of the ancients and their superstitions under a new age label. Very unkind and judgemental!
Sometimes it is just that...a physical luck of the draw illness. It is what human bodies do and germs too.
Yes, it can be affected by worrying about it or abusing it but an illness is by itself still a PHYSICAL human thing!
See your doctor and do what he or she advises. Think of positive outcomes but do not feel guilty or that you deserve it.
Good health to you!

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Age is a State of Mind. Change Your Mind!
~I intend to continue learning forever~Enigma
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.~Enigma
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.~NEXUS
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.~Enigma
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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sue g
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posted September 09, 2006 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
If your comment was aimed at me Fayte, and I offended you, then I apologise...

I just happen to believe that everything is connected to the spirit...I believe all illness comes from the mind and spirit (well for me anyway)

If it wasnt aimed at me.....no worries.

Just wanted to be upfront and brutally honest, which I know you like.

Thanks..

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posted September 09, 2006 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
No Sue it was not meant as a jab.
Believe what you want.
I know you meant well.

But I disagree.

The point here is:

I wanted D for Defiant to not get caught up in guilt thinking her illness is somehow her fault.
IT IS NOT HER FAULT NOR CAUSED BY HER SPIRITUAL STATE OF BEING!
That is just too cruel and heartless a thing to inflict on anyone's psyche especially when they already are down and feeling suicidal!
But all illness is not from the mind.
My injuries are from an accident. The troubles are the result of injury.
I already had one nit wit say my blindness episodes are because of improper thought and other bullcrap that I am in denial, and another said I am dark and evil and deserve it. Cold man, how viciously heartlessly uncompassionately judgementally cold.
Well MRIs and brain scans, cat scans and neurological testing do not lie. It is not my fault and not in my mind or anything I deserve or should feel guilty about.
Nor should such a burden be foisted upon D for Defiant.
A concussion and brain injury of the physical kind, and later a stroke will cause such things.
YES...
Thought can make things worse sometimes.
Or better.
But the fact is not all illness in and of itself is ALL spiritual.
Nor should it be insinuated that the person is guilty or deserves it or sinned or whatever blamed for the caused of it.

Folks who tell a person their illness is all in their head or their fault(when it is not) should become afflicted by something REAL too, so they will never tell a person such a cold hearted thing again.

So folks should think before making such new age judgements and consider that they may be wrong and could cause someone to kill themselves or become more depressed from unwarrented guilt for something not their fault.

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posted September 09, 2006 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Sue if it is true in your situations and you can cure yourself that is admirable and I salute you.

But none of us have the right to tell D for Defiant or anyone it is all caused by the spiritual or for something they did or should feel guilty about.

Each person must decide that for themselves.

D for Defiant has a real diagnosis.
That is not a mind only thing but a real brain chemistry thing scientifically proven.

She is the only one who has a right to judge herself.

Right now she feels enough angst over this thing she must deal with and does not need to be made to feel guilty or of lower spirituality because of it. No one suffering deserves that.

D for Defiant.
You have nothing to feel guilty about or atone for. This illness is not your fault.

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Age is a State of Mind. Change Your Mind!
~I intend to continue learning forever~Enigma
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.~Enigma
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.~NEXUS
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.~Enigma
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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sue g
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posted September 10, 2006 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Okay

In that case, I will not share any of my opinions on this matter again....

Hope I didnt upset you D....that was the the last thing on my mind.

I will leave it up to others like Fayte to help you....

I just have had experience as a healer of a different approach to illness...


Sorry for any misunderstanding.

Love and healing

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D for Defiant
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posted September 10, 2006 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message
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sue g
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posted September 10, 2006 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
No worries D and thanks for being so rational and clear in your communication...you are a very understanding and articulate woman.

I must apologise tho....I am grieving the loss of my mother (or should I say what I am coming to terms with of what could have been my mother) if you get my drift,

So I am over sensitive at the moment....maybe i should keep my opinions to myself at such a fragile time.

Thanks again girl.....I send you love and peace and happiness and of course healing white light as you requested.

Bless you

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posted September 10, 2006 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
DFD,
I admire your ability to listen and speak from your own discriminative abilities and perspective. (your own Truth).

I don't believe all illnesses come from the spirit. I do believe it is possible and is influential is some cases. It depends. Life is so varied and complex and therefore there are bound to be multi-faceted individual experiences. Some genetic, some from injury or things beyond ourselves.
I don't believe everything of Cayce, but I do admire the way he seemed to balance practical scientific/medicinal treatment, with a holistic/mystical approach. Neither is denied. I think what is harmful is to think in extremities...either all or nothing, this or that. Everyone has their personal story and each life experience individually unique. I've read of how you hate yourself for your illness, so I hope you accept that it isn't of you.
I'm amazed at your strength...at the way you trudge through, with unswaying dignity, even for the unfairness of what you have been dealt, not holding to bitterness...still breaking through the rougher times and rebounding in optimism. I'm so awed by that.

My neice was born with a large cancerous tumor. I can't imagine the horror her already heartbroken mother would feel to think that there was any blame. My sister in law, while pregant was vigilent in caring for the life growing inside of her; eating right, quitting smoking, etc. Already tormented with anguish over what her newborn must suffer, it would have been devistating for her to be told she was in any way at fault, because of spiritual matters. In such instances, it should be assumed, the person already in some way (regardless of knowing better even) would naturally struggle with such internal questions of Fate and guilt. This was entirely not of her doing, and beyond her...

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posted September 10, 2006 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message

I'll keep my own experience as brief as possible. Years ago, for a period of about 3 years I suffered from extreme fatigue and joint pain. At times it became so terrible, I could barely move. I went from doctor to doctor, hoping to find answers. I know how it feels, as you wrote, Fayte, to be made to feel like it's all in your head. The doctors would have loved to just shrug me off as delusional. So, I decided it was my own place to educate myself of my own symptoms and the possible relative illessness. I ordered up tests, with the knowledge of my own symptoms. The doctors wouldn't have otherwise.
DFD, the way you have taken it upon yourself to educate yourself in psychology, for your own benefit is admirable. Truly something to behold and be proud of.
Anyway...they diagnosed me having "chronic fatigue syndrome", but I never felt satisfied with the diagnoses. I pretty much knew that it was just a label they used, because they couldn't figure out what was wrong with me.

I moved to a new house, and amazingly almost instantly all of my symptoms disappeared and I felt well again! I realized that it was the house that I had lived in before. It was an old house, and although I kept it clean, the toxic lead, mold and asbestos in the building materials of the house, were most likely the cause. So, these were pollutants from my environment, and not of me.

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posted September 10, 2006 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
(posting problems, so have to keep splitting up my posts. Gotta love it ay? )

...All that saying, Sue, you could in no way be blamed for Caring. The more beautiful intention in your heart is what matters.

DFD, not speak her truth?
I don't think that will ever be her problem.
The woman has got spunk!!!

Bless you, DFD, indeed.

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posted September 10, 2006 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
whoops, that last one double-posted, so this is a deleted edit*.

first it won't post at all, then suddenly it multi-orgasms.


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posted September 10, 2006 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Lia, D for Defiant, and yes you too Sue

Sorry for a late response. Very long weekend exterminating a large mega/multi yellow jacket nest and not home much.


Ok....
Sue I do healings also and health readings.
I am fully aware of the power of the mind. I have healed myself of cancerous conditions a few times and cornea scars from a gas fire that burned off some of my hair and all my eyebows and eyelashes.
I have helped to heal 3rd. degree burns on myself and others within hours.
I have revived animals thought to be dead.
I have healed my TB scars.

My son's cardiologist was surprised when my son did not need heart surgery after all after years of troubles.

I have reached autistic folks no one else could.
I have helped the dying to cross easier.
I am not going to keep going on here, but I am a healer too and do know that balancing the chi and more is of vital importance.
But I have yet to see ANY illness or disease "caused by only" the mind or spiritual state of being.
Affected?
Oh yes!
BUT NOT CAUSED by that.
That would mean folks with children born with troubles after difficult birthings are guilty and so is their child and it is all in their heads or caused by incorrect thought or sin.
Bullcrap!
Or children born with terrible things, or women who miscarry or have C-sections or other birthing traumas are spiritually bad or messed up.
All old folks are spiritually deficient because they get sick and die. Dying is their fault! If they were more spiritual they would not die.
Bullcrap.
I have known too many folks born with terrible afflictions and children with terminal illnesses to ever say it is their fault or anything to do with spirituality.

I never judge the person I am "working" on or with to acheive a healing or at least alieve their suffering.
I look at the physical and attempt to affect it.
I do NOT FEEL disease and illness are caused by the mind/spiritual, but I do know they can be healed by it.
But first guilt must be removed and the ailment accepted as fact. A real physical thing.
Then healing can begin, or at least an understanding and a way to cope can be found.

Ok..
Too tired to rant on more at this time.
Take care everyone.
God Bless and sweet dreams.
Love
Fayte

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Age is a State of Mind. Change Your Mind!
~I intend to continue learning forever~Enigma
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.~Enigma
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.~NEXUS
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.~Enigma
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-

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