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Diandra23
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posted March 21, 2007 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
Hi to all

Iīm recently a member of this comunity.
Saw this forum called Health and Healing and decided to ask some important questions:

Firs of all iīd like to ask how can we know when some bad spirit or mean people are trying to make our lifes miserable?
Since a few years my family have been experiencing really bad problems, really spooky. My mom went to several persons and they all say that a woman with envy and a mean heart ( close to us) made "works" with land of cemetery to make my family poor and with their spirits break.
And in reality, we were rich and never armed anyone to stay on the top in life. Suddently all falled apart, people robbed my parents severall times,processes in judgements, health problems with me, my mom, my grandmother, and brothers..

Im really concerned about this.
No one can do nothing and the person who says it can help wants a lot of money we dont have.
Dont know what to do, or if I can help on anything.

If someone can help,please say something.
Nice words would be great.

I hope that whoever is doing this ( the tarot man said it has been for 10 years now) cant do no more harm to the ones I love.

Kiss to all

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lotusheartone
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posted March 21, 2007 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Diandra23...

do whatever you must, so that you understand and believe it's all over, it's finished, it has run its course...

the woman of envy was an air sign...I really think Aquarius...

the wheel has come full circle...
and it's finished...

forgive, and let it go...

Release it...

Things are going to get better now...
I hope this helps, it's no fun to deal
with the negative forces...
we must ignore them, and not feed them
then, they cannot have power over us...

then there is karma, ugh, we get what we give
and this carries over from all life incarnations....

it's a amazing to me. ...

LOts of LOve and Light to ALL...
White Magic!

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Diandra23
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posted March 21, 2007 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Dear Lotus for your kind words and your love.

I believe in all that youīve said.
The wheel never stops and we must carry on and hope for new begginings and believe in the force of our hearts and what lies within him.

I will try to be a better person and mean no arm to the one who made us so bad. Maybe it was the way that had to be, concerning to the karmas that youīve spoke about.
Those reencarnations we dont remember? Maybe we armed that person on other life and now it was her time? ...maybe ...so itīs all finished...
and behind the storm comes the rainbow


I thank you again for your kindness and help.

Wish you peace and love and all the good fortune to you and your loved ones
Im going to sleep now ( hereīs almost 30 pass midnight) , more peacefully


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lotusheartone
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posted March 21, 2007 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
you are very dear and sweet, and if you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer them..
It is all Done...I See happiness, New beginnings, and Lots of LOve, for you and your
family...

It's Spring, it's time to Bloom....
Show all our LOve and Reverence for ALL...
This Beautiful Planet that sustains Us...
The Glorious Celestial Sky, The Heavens
We Must See and Hear...

And Remember...

Bring Heaven on Earth...

hehe, got carried away...LOve to ALL. ...

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BlueTopaz124
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posted March 21, 2007 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
A word of caution...be VERY suspicious of anyone who says they can solve your problem, make it go away or help you, but you have to pay $$$ first. These people will not help you, they only want your money. If someone who is truly spiritual can 'help' you, they won't ask for a single penny.

I am spiritual and believe, but feel your family simply had a run of bad luck...see if you can do some investigating into these judgements to see what was their origin? Is it valid? Some people create situations, lawsuits, and such, simply because they see someone who has $$$ and they want it.

sending love your way.
Laura

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BlueRoamer
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posted March 22, 2007 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Don't give money to anyone. Many so called "psychics" prey on desperate people, telling them only they can lift the curse for a price. I once went to a psychic and she tried to pull this on me. I told her I was a witch and was going to curse her, even though I didn't, but she was definitely scared.

You can cleanse your house of bad energy with simple elemental magic.

Burn sage in every room of the house.

Light candles and put a row of salt in the doorway of your front and back door. And any other doors leading to the outside. Leave the salt there for at least a couple hours.

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lotusheartone
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posted March 22, 2007 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Ggod Day, I wanted to add to the good advice..that there is also another way...

I am poor, single mom, with 2 daughters,
living on a tight budget...

I can't afford to buy many things...
and these little rituals we do...
can be done with no tools at all...

it's our illusion, you can pretend
to have such tools, Mind Over Matter M O M

Mind to OverSoul, we create, with GOD...

even someone who is poor, can Find GOD and Truth, money is never required...
It's our BirthRight...no one is excluded...

Nothing can hold you back...only yourSelf. ...

I'll share something, and I don't share many of my personal experiences, I get made fun of, my feelings hurt...

But, I experience Magic, everyday!
I can brighten a dark room
with a tiny little spark,
I can create light...

We are all born with the same gifts...
all equal, family...

I so, want to bring Peace...and Understanding...
we've got work to do...

and being forced into it, is no fun,
but that is what is happening...Earth Karma

let's fix things, what do you think?

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Diandra23
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posted March 22, 2007 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message

hI to all!

Want to thank you for the help you are giving us.
The person who asked money is someone who is a tarot reader, and It was me who told my mother to ask him his help cause we went to an esoteric place and thought he seamed nice. She went there severall times and he never asked money and said she could give him whatever she wanted when life were better.

So, we thought he was a nice spirit.
But for that "work" to help against these "woman" he asked 700 euros ( showed us the proces of the materials he had to work with). We didnt gave cause we dont have for now that money.
And my mother said to me that since we stardted to go there,life became harder and I said i didnt believe it was him ( I tend to believe in the good heart of people).

Well, my family also have bad luck. Itīs possible that some things that happende was by taking bad solutions, not handle well with some people...My parents are very nice and tend to help people that maybe didnt deserved it. But i gotta say that my Dad when concerns money,started to ask credits to the bank ( everything collapsed) and we lost the company that they worked to hard to obtain.

But its too much injustice for happening just by bad luck..several persons said that was being a woman( and the time she started was the moment that things stared to work against).

Iīll do the salt and the other things thanks so much.
I forgot to tell that my mom is a medium.She captures the spirits when she is depressed.She also has a reiky high degree and sometimes work with the energie of her hands ( just on family).
Can this help for something?

Kiss and love to all

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lotusheartone
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posted March 22, 2007 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
How do you mean,

captures the spirits, what happens?
this could be a source of the problem???

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Diandra23
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posted March 22, 2007 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message

If I cab help on fixing things, im ready for it.

Im having problems too between myself and my counscious and heart. Im confused about so many things and I also want to be free and well to walk my path and help my family who gave so much to me. I somehow feel im not retribuing their love. ( or something like that)

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lotusheartone
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posted March 22, 2007 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Awesome!

It's really simple, but seems hard to do...

we must undertake to all with unconditional LOve, Reverence for ALL. ...

simple, but hard to do all the time, takes practice, hehe. . .

We Can Do It!

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Diandra23
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posted March 22, 2007 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
sorry for the language,sometimes I dont know how to express myself the way I want cause ths not my birth language.

I meant that as my mom is a little bit to sensitive to the spirits,she sometimes, on determinde days ( she said itīs when the "door" itīs oppened?), she sees spirits around people ( sometimes they re good spirits, but other times they are bad). She says a chackra of her is open and then the spirits can enter her spirit. I saw more than once she pass out and say things strange..but that s not the origin of things going wrong.

She just is too sensitive i think.She has a sort of gift.She can cure some things.When im sick she makes me better for example.

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lotusheartone
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posted March 22, 2007 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
good job explaining,

but she must not let them in, see, these are lower plane entities...she is allowing them to filter through her heart-soul...
she can simply tell them to go to the light, I know that sounds stupid, hehe, but they must go to the light to continue to learn and follow their course...
they are stagnant, in a lower realm

and yes, she can heal you, she needs to be careful, and do everything for the good of all...

I sense some negative energies..and since she is open and sees the doorway, these spirits
are using her,

makeing her weak, sometimes...

I am going to pray, and send LOve and Light
to you and your family...

I think you are here, so you can help your mom, and you will....

things are getting better....

LOts of LOve to ALL. ...

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Diandra23
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posted March 22, 2007 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
Do you mean Loving all People, even the ones that have bad intentions to us?

Seems so hard. Iīve tried to not wishing arm to those people but sometimes I think they dont deserve happiness cause they dont have good hearts,they just have envy of others peopleīs happiness!

How can you do that? How do you overcome this feelings of payback?
I want to be that kind of people who just giveslove and peace, but since a few times I ve been not that person..but im not mean. I simply love justice and this things make me nervs...

Tell me Lotus how can I be better?

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lotusheartone
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posted March 22, 2007 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
we must love evil, we must love our enemies the most, sending them Lots of LOve, hehe
Forgive and release, the negative, come full-serpent-circle, stopping the cycle of karma, from your end,
this empowers your LOve and Light
and then send out LOve and Light

VIOLET = LOVE EVIL

LOVE HEALS ALL, OVERCOMES ALL, IT IS SO POWERFUL, LOVE LOVE LOVE TO ALL ...

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Diandra23
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posted March 22, 2007 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Dear Lotus

You too are very sweet by wanting to help someone you dont know ( thatīs very unusual nowadays..sadly).

She said to me yesterday she never felt so week in her life,and today she went to see another person ( who doesnt ask money) just to see if really those bad lower spirits are turning her like this.

I will also pray for you and your daughters, to have all the good fortune in the world


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lotusheartone
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posted March 22, 2007 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for your kind words, Diandra23
they mean the WORLD to me. ...

Your Mom, has to learn how to not let them filter through her, like I said, they are using her, and this makes her weak...

She has the power to tell them to leave...
this is not a good doorway, do you know how the doorway was opened?
How did it happen, when she first saow it?
Sorry so many questions, I do very much want to help all, through their difficult times..
it's our trial and tribulations, tests, At Earth School....

let's all get an A
and a Star, hehe

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Diandra23
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posted March 22, 2007 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message

well I dont know when was the first time, but I think it has been for some years now.

That door, itīs opened in some particular days, she says it has to do with dates ( some months are more likely to attrack those bad spirits).

My dad and twin sister knew these things first than me ( they didnt want me to know cause of all brothers im the most sensitive) and they were frightnened for me. Im not medium or nothing of those things but those things scare me a litlle bit ( only the bad spirits of course)

She also sees angels sometimes and when my grandmother had a stroke she helped her and saw my grandgrandparent! These things im fascinated off and i believe we dont die never

How do you think she can close that chakra( i think she called it the third eye?)

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lotusheartone
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posted March 22, 2007 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
WOW! You always want to see with your Third Eye, Mind to OverSoul in Heaven...

in between are levels, planes, your mom
must close the doorways, to the negative levels,
she must realize some are tricksters
and not all that glitters, is gold...

I rarely stay on the lower planes, on my excursions, on the spiritual spiral, staircase..
up to the top, up up up,
do not be distrated, by the lower levels,
they want to deter you, use your energy...

there is a burst of Light, when you
get to the safe level...from there you
are guided. ...

I hope this helps,
I think if she visually shuts the door...
she can continue with the good spirits, but
she must learn the difference

if you give the negative energy, feeding it, it grows, and can hurt you, power of the mind...

Fear nothing, there is nothing to Fear, God is within each one of us...Guiding us, we just need to listen, and look. ...

we are all here to help each other, we have been accelerated, for our purpose...

To Save Planet Earth

PLEASE!

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Diandra23
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posted March 22, 2007 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message

I think she knows when itīs a bad spirit, just cant close to them

I will tell her what youīve told me. Not to give in on those bad low planes. She has a good power on visualising so i think she will overcome that things and focus on that bright light.

Can i ask you something? That woman you talked about, tha air sign..is it possible for you to see if she is mother of a girl that worked for my parents? They suspicious about her..

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lotusheartone
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posted March 22, 2007 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Sometimes, I just can't stop hehe

We have a chance, a probability for a Miracle, I saw it, it was shone to me...the prophecies are merely warnings and set-ups...
we allow them to come true, by believing them, they are like lies, probablities, different outcomes,

we can have 1,000 years of Peace, of extra time for all to come full-serpent-circle, we can fix things, help one another,
the secret of 13, is what I will write about when I M re-United with my twin...
it's a key to GOD and TIME....
and all of you have the same thing as me
all equal, you SEE
we represent Heaven in Human form
a Mirror Image. ...

Pax et Bonum....

"EXPECT A MIRACLE!"

I always do, other-Wise, they wouldn't happen....

LOve and Magic!

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lotusheartone
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posted March 22, 2007 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
to your question...

I am sorry, it is not required for you to know who has done it...for you must forgive all, simply, knowing who? will not do any good, it is best to let this go, this is what I advise...
do not hold onto it any longer. ...

if you really want the answer, you will get it...but, you must think, do I really need to know, what good will that do?

we do not forget, but we must forgive, and release the negative energy, it takes our energy away, to hold onto it....

LOve to ALL. ...

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Diandra23
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posted March 22, 2007 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
Yes you are right!

If I knew who it was i couldn t let it go for sure...its better like this so I dont wish negative thins that may come to me in the future right?

So,wishing love to all,that love also will return to us. And forgiving will free us from arm ( we dont forget youīre right, but after all, we are human, with good and bad things).

I hope that miracle you talk,happens.
Ihope that this world becomes a better place, to letting us believe in a bright future.

Love and peace to you all

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lotusheartone
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posted March 22, 2007 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Diandra23 You are BEaUtiful...
and yeh, we all make mistakes, just last week, I made some terrible mistakes, but everything happens for a reason, we must forgive OurSelves and others. ...

LOve OverCOmes ALL ODDS... .

LOve to ALL

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Diandra23
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posted March 22, 2007 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
Hereīs a poem of a poet I love:Khalil Gibran:

THE GOOD AND THE EVIL

And one of the elders of the city said, "Speak to us of Good and Evil."

And he answered:

Of the good in you I can speak, but not of the evil.

For what is evil but good tortured by its own hunger and thirst?

Verily when good is hungry it seeks food even in dark caves, and when it thirsts, it drinks even of dead waters.

You are good when you are one with yourself.

Yet when you are not one with yourself you are not evil.

For a divided house is not a den of thieves; it is only a divided house.

And a ship without rudder may wander aimlessly among perilous isles yet sink not to the bottom.

You are good when you strive to give of yourself.

Yet you are not evil when you seek gain for yourself.

For when you strive for gain you are but a root that clings to the earth and sucks at her breast.

Surely the fruit cannot say to the root, "Be like me, ripe and full and ever giving of your abundance."

For to the fruit giving is a need, as receiving is a need to the root.

You are good when you are fully awake in your speech,

Yet you are not evil when you sleep while your tongue staggers without purpose.

And even stumbling speech may strengthen a weak tongue.

You are good when you walk to your goal firmly and with bold steps.

Yet you are not evil when you go thither limping.

Even those who limp go not backward.

But you who are strong and swift, see that you do not limp before the lame, deeming it kindness.

You are good in countless ways, and you are not evil when you are not good,

You are only loitering and sluggard.

Pity that the stags cannot teach swiftness to the turtles.

In your longing for your giant self lies your goodness: and that longing is in all of you.

But in some of you that longing is a torrent rushing with might to the sea, carrying the secrets of the hillsides and the songs of the forest.

And in others it is a flat stream that loses itself in angles and bends and lingers before it reaches the shore.

But let not him who longs much say to him who longs little, "Wherefore are you slow and halting?"

For the truly good ask not the naked, "Where is your garment?" nor the houseless, "What has befallen your house?"


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