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Topic: Immune System Support
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angel_of_hope
Moderator Posts: 1369
From: Palmer, AK
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted October 26, 2007 01:42 PM
 
My Fiance is not a rabbit! He will not eat his veggies and rarely eats fruit. The veggies he does consume are peas and corn. In the last few years he's been hit hard with the colds and flus going round. I've tried to introduce a variety of veggies for him to try over the last number of years with no luck on him swallowing them. He says, If i can smell it and it makes me gag theres no way i'm putting it in my mouth. On the other hand, I know's really sick and tired of being sick and tired. Is there something anyone of you would recommend him to take or do to boost his immune system.Any thoughts or ideas are appreciated. ANg- IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted October 26, 2007 01:56 PM
Does he have an pre-existing medical conditions?Does he have access to a flu shot? Does he exercise regularly? IP: Logged |
angel_of_hope
Moderator Posts: 1369
From: Palmer, AK
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted October 26, 2007 02:09 PM
HI BR - Thanks for the response. ~ He's hypoglycemic (sp?) He's had mono twice within the last 7years. Other than that, no. ~ He does have access to the flu shot, however it's his familys choice that he NOT get one. (and his as well, he's never been vacinated, except for Mumps in 1999, which was required by the Anchorage School District during an outbreak, if he didnt, he would be expelled from school) ~ He doesnt have a excersie routine but he is very active. He's on his feet all day moving about the work shop, lifting heavy items etc. In his spare time, he's always doing somehting. We are active in the summer months with outdoor activites. Although not so much in the winter months. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted October 26, 2007 02:45 PM
He should switch to a diet where he eats smaller, more frequent meals. His susceptability to illness could be related to low blood sugar. When your body runs out of energy, the whole system suffers, including the immune system. He needs to eat carbs that are lower on the GI index. Fruits, vegetables, brown rice, sweet potatoes....no soda!!IP: Logged |
angel_of_hope
Moderator Posts: 1369
From: Palmer, AK
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted October 26, 2007 03:22 PM
We do make sure he eats frequent smaller meals due to being hypoglycemic. My problem is getting him to eat stuff thats good for him, veggy and fruit wise. He does drink alot of soda, although here lately, i'd say within the last month, he's been drinking more juice and water while cutting back on his soda intake. He also LOVES his milk. A bowl of cereal everynight is a MUST before heading to bed. lol. Are there any good dietary supplements he could take to assist his immune system? Besides the regualr grocery store multivitamin ... would that be enough? IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted October 26, 2007 05:22 PM
People will tell you echinachea but i've had no sucess with it. I have had success with vitamin C though. The truth is no one really knows how effective these supplements are. Some studies have shown ecinachea to actually WEAKEN the immune system. You probably can't go wrong with C though.Tell him to start washing his hands more often, like EVERY time before he eats, if someone sneezes tell him to run away, and tell him to not touch his face, ESPECIALLY his eyes unless he just washed his hands. IP: Logged |
angel_of_hope
Moderator Posts: 1369
From: Palmer, AK
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted October 26, 2007 06:05 PM
I guess we'll start with some Vitamin C then and see how that goes for him.Funny thing is, he does wash his hands constantly while here at work - but once he leaves the workplace, i do notice he doesnt wash them as often. So i will let him know what u have suggested. Thanks for your help once again BR!! Greatly appreciated! ang- IP: Logged |
Azalaksh
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From: New Brighton, MN, USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted October 26, 2007 07:07 PM
ang ~Does he like juice?? Tomato juice, apple juice, orange juice -- it's better than NO fruits or veggies..... Immune system support:
http://curezone.com/schulze/herbal_immune_system.asp[/URL] There's a ton of google hits for "immune system booster" and "immune system health" etc. IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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Registered: Apr 2006
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posted October 27, 2007 02:49 AM
Oh goodness. Does he have digestive problems? Because peas and corn will clog him up and make him tired! There's a book out by Patrick Holford on boosting your immune system - you should check that out. 1000mg of slow-releasing vitamin C daily would be a good thing. Zinc is also a good immune booster. It also seems like he should acclimatise himself to more healthy foods, like can you put cheese sauce on broccoli for example to make it seem more appetising? I used to be a very fussy eater when I was younger and my mother had to do things like that for me. IP: Logged |
Nephthys
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From: California
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted October 27, 2007 11:46 AM
Definitely take a really good quality multivitamin. We started using Super Nutrition brand. They have specific formula's, (I take the woman's formula).Zinc is also good for immune support. Garlic too. Cook using garlic in everything. A good way to hide veggies in meals, is, for example, you can cook veggies and either chop them really small, or puree them and then add them into spaghetti sauce. You can add cooked/sliced/shredded veggies into casserole dishes. Quiches are real yummy, I like to use zuchini, red bell peppers, green bell peppers, onions, etc. You can chop the veggies small enough so for people who don't like chunks of veggies in their mouths, they won't really notice them. Good Luck! IP: Logged |
Nephthys
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From: California
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted October 28, 2007 05:28 PM
He could also take Probiotics, eat Yoghurt, and a lot of ethnic foods make good use of veggies. Mexican food
Italian food
Chinese food
Pizza
Indian food Also, roasted, or grilled veggies are very yummy.
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Nephthys
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From: California
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted October 28, 2007 05:29 PM
Some creamed soups are very yummy too. I like to make a cream of broccoli soup, I use coconut milk in place of cream, and I use onions and garlic in it, + vegetable broth. I puree the whole thing after cooking it, and it is quite tasty. Good thing to make soups since you're in Alaska anyways. IP: Logged |
BlueMeenee
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Registered: Oct 2007
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posted October 29, 2007 07:55 PM
Has he seen a chiropractor or acupuncturist at all? Getting his body aligned would probably help out in the long run as well with his immunity. If you've got something against a cracking bones chiropractor, see if you can find one that practices the Toftness method. It's low impact, they don't crack bones at all and they're fab. My chiro I've seen since I was little uses this method and it's safe enough that I took my newborn daughter to see him for Erb's Palsy. The Toftness method usually incorporates herbal healing and remedies into their regiment as well. Good luck with everything! IP: Logged |
angel_of_hope
Moderator Posts: 1369
From: Palmer, AK
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted October 30, 2007 03:08 PM
Azalaksh - I try to keep juice made in the fridge at all times. He's the type of guy where he knows juice is in the freezer but its easier to pop a top on a soda can. Although i must say, lately with being sick and tired of being sick and tired he's been drinking more juice. I've tried all the different varieties of V8 Juice with no luck of getting him past sip #2. Thanks for the link, i'll head over and check that out.  GeminiLover - no digestive problems, although he has been rather low on energy. I've tried to introduce veggies in diffrent ways, but i can't get him to even taste it, knowing its a veggie he doesnt like. He's a typical aries, doesnt like change. In his mind, he doesnt like it period ... no matter what i do. ZINC - thats the one i was trying to remember. How much is good? Isnt zinc dangerous at high levels? Or is that something else im thinking of ... Thanks for the book info, i'll look into it. Nephthys - I love GARLIC!! We cook with it often. I don't use garlic cloves, rather the minced up garlic in the jar. As for the minced up veggies or puree .... OMG! I've mentioned this in the past ... but guess what? He's willing to let me try that. ... this is a first for him!! Puree I'm thinking is gonna be the way to go. He's such a picky eater. his spaghetti cant even have tomato chunks in it. His salsa must be runny, with no chunks. So being in a puree form seems the best way possible to disguise it .... who knows, maybe i'll even slip a few mushrooms in the spaghetti. lol. Ohhh goodness, I'm getting excited thinking of the new possibilities for meals!! It's been hard to me, i love most fruits and veggies but dont have the energy to make two seperate meals one being veggie free .... Bluemeenee - He does see a chirpractor. Although not on a regular basis. He prolly is about due for another adjustment. Thanks everyone for everything!! IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted October 30, 2007 06:34 PM
With the zinc, it's probably better to get it as part of a balanced multivitamin - but in saying that, I know that a lot of multivitamins smell awful and he probably won't like to swallow them.Have to go but I'll come back to this later... IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted October 30, 2007 11:16 PM
Ok. Here is my flash of genius for the day, lol.As I've mentioned, when I was younger my mother could NOT get me to eat a vegetable other than potatoes or a few peas, carrots and corn now and then. I was also extremely averse to whole grains or anything that had a certain texture or 'too many bits in it'. The only way she could really get vegetables into me was for my grandmother or herself to make me a big pot of vegetable soup. She had to strain out every bit of whole vegetable or barley, so that it was a clear runny soup. BUT I loved it and it was a way of getting those essential vitamins into me. Eventually I did progress into accepting those 'bits' of vegetable and barley in it, and in my adulthood I realised that certain vegetables tasted like that soup!  So... why not start making home-made vegetable soup? I can find out the recipe from my mother if you like - in fact I want to make some of this myself, as I'm hoping to do a detox soon. I know that she uses a soup mix as a base (with things like dried split peas and barley in it), with carrot, onions, some parsnip, celery, I think there's some silverbeet in there... it's all grated and/or chopped very fine. I'll find out the rest if you want. It's so delicious. Of course you can add other things like broccoli or whatever. Garlic. I used to add a lot of salt but now I don't need to. I loved it with cayenne pepper for a while too. When I was sick with a bad virus for 6 weeks and had NO appetite, this soup is what I lived on for pretty much that whole time. The other thing is that parsnip and carrot mashed together like mashed potatoes is yummy! You could use that as a topping on cottage pie. And have you ever mashed together potatoes and peas? Very tasty, especially with some gravy. IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted October 31, 2007 04:12 AM
Ok here's the recipe (quantities are for a reasonably large pot).About 250g of soup mix, or split peas and lentils.
1 cup grated carrot
1 cup grated parsnip
1/4 grated swede turnip
2 sticks of chopped celery
2 diced onions
1/2 bunch parsley, roughly chopped
2 tsp salt
1 tsp Vegemite or Marmite for added flavour; alternatively you could add a piece of meat.
3/4 large pot of water Put it all in the pot, bring it to the boil and let it simmer for at least half an hour. 1 to 2 hours slow simmer brings out more flavour. This should make at least 6 cups of soup. As I said, for your man just use a strainer when you serve it to remove any unwanted chunks. Eventually he might be more accepting of the chunks.  This is the basic recipe but you could also freely add other things according to your personal taste, eg garlic, leeks, silverbeet, spinach, broccoli, chicken, or something like a small amount of pasta, rice or noodles if you want to bulk it up. Good luck!
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Nephthys
Moderator Posts: 3783
From: California
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted November 01, 2007 03:44 PM
Pumpkin Season ~ Will he eat pumpkin flavor? what about a cream of pumpkin soup? Since he doesn't like "chunks" of anything.......I have a real good recipe for a real yummy pumpkin soup. Remind me on myspace if I forget. IP: Logged |
angel_of_hope
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From: Palmer, AK
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted November 05, 2007 07:35 PM
WOW!! Geminilover that recipe sounds very appealing to my tastebuds. Thanks!! I will definitely give that a go. He does mix his corn/peas with Mashed potatoes. He actually mentioned to me the other day that he wouldn't mind if i mashed brocoli in with potatoes. I mentioned the cheese over brocoli ... I got that "gonna vomit" look. This is the first he imformed me that he likes the "bushes" and not the "trunks" of brocoli ... I SWORE i've asked him this in the past and the result was NO WAY. So looks like i can add ONE more veggie to the list of acceptable veggies. lol. Jovette: While that sounds absolutely scrumptious ... he doesnt like pumpkin AT ALL. But, if you still willing to pass along the recipe I'd love to try it myself. Thanks everyone i really appreciate all the responses. :  angela- IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 05, 2007 09:47 PM
Glad you like the sound of the vege soup! It was my grandmother's recipe and it's still one of my favourite things. Experiment with it until you get the flavours just how you like them! That's good news about the broccoli... hehe, I remember gradually getting into developing a taste for the broccoli heads only and definitely NOT the stalks, lol. Now I eat the stalks too, and broccoli is now my favourite part of any stir fry. Baby steps. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 06, 2007 04:46 PM
Sounds like he may have an overrun of candida in his bloodstream. It can cause a host of problems. Try to find some kind of fruit he likes (bananas maybe). If he likes yogurt, active cultures will help restore balance. Aside from that, he really needs an immune booster. Zinc (50 mgs a day after a meal) will do the trick in just a few days. I've seen zinc clear up extremely stubborn thrush that was resistant to antibiotics and strong topical ointments in only one day! Once the immune system is stimulated, it makes short order of any invader (without harming the beneficial bacteria). The human body can get sluggish when bogged down with all the junk in our air, food, and water, but when working at full capacity, it's a miracle to see how remarkable it is. Get the zinc ASAP. ------------------
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26taurus
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posted November 06, 2007 09:07 PM
You sound like my mother, Randall.  ang, If it has something to do with candida overgrowth (which is something alot of people are unaware thay are afflicted with and will make him feel very fatigued), I recommend taking grapefruit seed extract daily along with a good probiotic to rebalance healthy levels of intesinal flora. Is he a meat eater? If so, he most likely has intesinal worms and parasites. The GSE will take care of that. Ten drops per day in water or juice is good, though it tastes horrible (in water). I believe they make GSE in capsule form now, too. Have him get off of sugar too. There are different ways to go about it, but that is the one i take, so i'm recommending it. Best of luck to you both.
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26taurus
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posted November 06, 2007 09:11 PM
Sorry, just saw where you mentioned he doesnt eat fruits or veggies. Too bad...
dont give him dessert. He really needs to get over that.  IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 06, 2007 09:51 PM
Randall made a good point. If he is constantly tired and feeling run down, but doctors aren't finding *too much wrong*, then candida is a strong possibility.The best candida cleanser I found on the market was Twinlab's Yeast Fighter. I also did the candida diet. I would imagine your fiance would find this diet very difficult, because it pretty much consists of vegetables, protein, plain unsweetened yoghurt and that's it. Non-wheat whole grains like brown rice are ok in moderation on this diet. You have to do it for about 6 weeks along with killing off the candida overgrowth. It's extreme, but it worked for me when I did it about four years ago. IP: Logged |
ghanima81
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posted November 07, 2007 10:59 AM
My nutritionist/chiropractor instructor from school recommended Andrographis to me about a year ago. It's an herbal supplement, found at health food stores. The best kind (according to him) is by Paradise Herbs. It contains Isatis, Lonicera & elderberry. It literally made all my recurring sinus infections/colds dissapear. I recently moved from Florida back up to Maine, and didn't even get sick at all, given the major transition!! It's 400mg, and pretty kick ass stuff!! Just my two cents!  Ghani IP: Logged |
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