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BiBi DeAngelo
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posted November 18, 2007 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message
The Use Of Flouridation
For Mass Mind Control
11-5-7


The following letter was received by the Lee Foundation for
Nutritional Research, Milwaukee Wisconsin, on 2 October 1954, from Mr. Charles
Perkins, a chemist:

"I have your letter of September 29 asking for further documentation
regarding a statement made in my book, The Truth About Water
Fluoridation, to the effect that the idea of water fluoridation was brought to
England from Russia by the Russian Communist Kreminoff. "In the 1930`s,
Hitler and the German Nazi`s envisioned a world to be dominated and
controlled by a Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism. The German chemists worked
out a very ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass-control which was
submitted to and adopted by the German General Staff. This plan was to
control the population in any given area through mass medication of
drinking water supplies. By this method they could control the population
in whole areas, reduce population by water medication that would produce
sterility in women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium
fluoride occupied a prominent place. ...

"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time
reduce an individual`s power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and
narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to
the will of those who wish to govern him. [A convenient light lobotomy]


"The real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit
children`s teeth. If this were the real reason there are many ways in which it
could be done that are much easier, cheaper, and far more effective. The
real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of
the masses to domination and control and loss of liberty.

"When the Nazis under Hitler decided to go into Poland, both the
German General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged scientific and
military ideas, plans, and personnel, and the scheme of mass control
through water medication was seized upon by the Russian Communists
because it fitted ideally into their plan to communize the world. ...

"I was told of this entire scheme by a German chemist who was an
official of the great IG Farben chemical industries and was also prominent
in the Nazi movement at the time. I say this with all the earnestness
and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years` research into
the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorine--any
person who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one
year or more will never again be the same person mentally or
physically." CHARLES E. PERKINS, Chemist, 2 October 1954.

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posted November 18, 2007 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Not surprising.....
Here in the USA we've been a giant social and medical experiment for decades.

From: http://www.healthychoices.ukhq.co.uk/Familycare/fluoridation.html

Have you ever considered that the practice of making water safe to drink by adding large amounts of extremely poisonous chemicals to it, was odd, if not downright hazardous? It is only now that prominent scientists are providing the evidence that long-term ingestion of small amounts of chemicals like these could be the cause of some major health problems.

Here is a list of just a few of the chemicals routinely added to our water supply:

• Liquified chlorine
• Hexafluorosilicic acid
• Aluminium sulphate
• Calcium hydroxide
• Sodium silicofluoride

Even if the water leaves the source in a relatively clean state, don't forget that your water travels through pipes, which may have been underground since Victorian times! It is almost impossible for the water not to become contaminated by something undesirable.

Here is a list of contaminants which may be found in our water:

Salts of: arsenic, radium, aluminium, copper, lead, mercury, cadmium, barium
Trihalomethanes (THMs)
Hormones
Nitrates
Pesticides
Bacteria
Protozoa

I spoke to my pediatrician and expressed my concerns that fluoridated water supplies could have contributed to the explosion of ADHD kids in the last 3 decades (including my son), and her answer was a shrug, with "well, we're seeing that kids who can't afford to go to the dentist grow up with healthy teeth." At what cost?? What is it doing to all the rest of the humans that aren't children at the poverty level??

Reverse Osmosis Water Filtration is pretty expensive. Nonetheless, I think I'll check it out.....

Thanks for posting this BiBi.

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posted November 19, 2007 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message
Subject: Fluoridation tries to strike again



fluorideDr. Hardy Limeback Comes To Alaska To Help Oppose Fluoridation.

Thursday, November 15, 2007 by: Dr Emily A Kane
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(NewsTarget) On October 2 the citizens of Juneau , Alaska voted to keep sodium fluoride OUT of our pure, glacial-melt water. It was a landslide victory (4800 to 1900). Yay! Sodium fluoride is not as bad as hydrofluorosilicate, but it’s still a waste product from the phosphate fertilizer industry. www.fluoridealert.org

Breaking news today at www.juneauempire.com Here's the story: Juneau has been fluoridating city water since 1984. Three years ago, a group of concerned citizens approached our mayor, who put together a commission of doctors, engineers and public health officials. I was one of these commissioners. We studied the available literature in depth for 2 years, meeting at least once monthly. We developed a comprehensive report for the city assembly, which included an analysis of the recently published 506 page review on the toxicology of fluoride by the prestigious National Academy of Science. www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=11571

After reviewing our report, the assembly members of Juneau , Alaska voted among themselves 7 to 1 to stop fluoridating Juneau , acknowledging that the risks far outweigh the benefits. The fluoride was turned off on January 15 of this year. In February, a group of doctors and dentists mounted a campaign to get the fluoride put back in. They have raised $161,000 for their campaign; nearly $150,000 of which has come from the American Dental Association in Chicago Illinois . http://tinyurl.com/36d66s

Wow! $150,000. Think how many toothbrushes the ADA could have sent to Juneau for that sum! This impressive amount might also have paid for topical fluoride varnishes for all local elementary school kids for 5 years. Why have the pro-fluoride folks spent so much money to defend their increasingly indefensible stance? A few years ago the ADA spent $3000,000 in Bellingham , Washington to promote fluoridation. That didn't work either. Why aren't they putting that money into actual dental care for those who need it most? Instead, the funds have been used to buy signatures to mount a ballot initiative, to hire a PR firm to conduct two "push polls" (which are not about gathering information but are attempts to influence voters), and to inundate the media with slickly produced ads which contain outright lies, such as "Fluoride benefits everyone" and "fluoridated water reduces dental cavities by 20-40%."

Juneau Citizens for Clean Water can’t compete against this kind of money, but we clearly had the hearts, minds and will of the people behind us. The vast majority of the letters to the editor and local radio polls have been anti-fluoride. The moment of truth is here, and it is sweet. We did use our resources (about $4,000) to mail informative postcards to the frequent voters. And, we brought Dr. Hardy Limeback all the way across the country from Toronto , Ontario , to present several public lectures. www.fluoridealert.org/news/2616.html

Dr. Limeback is currently the head of Preventive Dentistry at the University of Toronto, Ontario. He is considered the world’s foremost expert on dental fluorosis, a sign of excess fluoride ingestion. He was one of the prestigious scientists who contributed to the National Academy of Science March 2006 report on fluoride to the US Congress. In a nutshell, he no longer supports fluoridation of public water because of:

1) Lack of effectiveness.

2) Tooth decay rates have declined globally due to fluoridated toothpaste, improved diets and better awareness of dental health.

3) Fluoride only works topically to protect the dental enamel. There is no benefit whatsoever, and considerable evidence of harm, from ingesting fluoride. Most dentists still are not aware of this indisputable fact.

4) Half of all ingested fluoride remains in the skeletal system and accumulates with age.

5) Fluoride is an effective insecticide and works by destroying critical enzymes (G-proteins). This is how it negatively affects human health as well. For example, fluoride disrupts thyroid health by displacing iodine uptake in the thyroid gland and it also causes calcification of the pineal gland, which disregulates the pituitary gland, which is the master gland of the endocrine system. Pineal calcification is especially prevalent in teens, who are going through growth spurts. Fluoride accretes in bone, and bone turns over more rapidly during periods of growth. Who knows a teen with disrupted sleep habits? Fluoridated communities have higher rates of hip fractures, and higher rates of cancer.

6) Money saved from halting water fluoridation programs can be more wisely spent on public health education about diet and topical fluoride varnishes for those at risk for dental decay.

I had two pressing questions for Dr. Limeback.

Dr. Em: “Why are most dentists and doctors so entrenched in illogical and outdated thinking about fluoridation?

Dr. Limeback: “They are on a bandwagon. They have been parroting what the ADA and the AMA has been saying for decades. They don’t have time to really study the issue and read the contemporary studies. They band together to save face. They believe in their own authority. They spout claims like $1 worth of fluoridation saves $38 worth of dental care costs. This is nonsense. Fluoridated cities and non-fluoridated cities have very similar rates of dental decay. Fluoridation causes very expensive-to-fix staining (fluorosis) in at least 30% of those chronically exposed. I recently treated a teen for moderate fluorosis: at the end of the day his parents spent $17,000 on restoring his teeth to a normal appearance. Without fluoride in the water, maybe this kid would have had a half cavity more, which would have cost $200 to fix. Twenty percent caries reduction, in a mouth with 128 dental surfaces, amounts to 1/2 a cavity. So the 20% improvement claim sounds a lot better that it really is.

Further, 50% of 12 year olds today don’t have any cavities at all. This is largely because of fluoridated toothpaste, which was introduced in 1968. Many pro-fluoride folks will say that their kids’ teeth are so much better than their teeth, and this “proves” that fluoride in the water works. That’s not true at all. Fluoride is only beneficial to the dental enamel when applied topically. When fluoride is ingested, it actually weakens the inner structure of the teeth, making them more brittle. Don’t forget the ADA and the AMA are trade organizations. They make a lot of money endorsing drugs, including fluoride. These are not bodies of research scientists."

Dr. Em: “I’ve heard the CDC is pushing right now for a federal mandate to fluoridate all communities larger than 10,000. Why? And why is the ADA pumping so much money into little Juneau , Alaska ?

Dr. Limeback: “OK. You have to turn off the tape recorder here. (Dr. Em paraphrases: ) Follow the money. Dentists, and many doctors, largely stand to lose plenty of income when they serve Medicaid and Medicare patients. When dentists buy into the idea that fluoride cures dental decay, they can justify refusing to see patients who can’t afford the big bills, or don’t have insurance. It’s shocking, but true, that Medicaid and Medicare don’t pay for any kind of dental health. Dentists would prefer to pay dues to their trade organization to promote the idea that fluoridation is the most important solution for healthy teeth. The ADA puts its stamp of approval on that image of the triple-swirl of toothpaste on the side of the toothpaste box."

By the way, a toddler swallowing a glob of toothpaste that big could die. Even though the CDC now concedes, and has reprimanded the ADA of such, that only a pea sized blob of toothpaste is safe, marginally, if accidentally swallowed. A pea-sized blob of toothpaste has an equivalent amount of fluoride as a litre of water. Think about this: a little blob of toothpaste comes with a warning on the box: may be harmful if swallowed; call your poison control center immediately. But, no such warnings exist on your glass of water, even though a mere 2 big glasses of fluoridated tap water deliver about the same toxic dose. One part-per-million (1 ppm), which is widely considered the "optimal" fluoridation dose for water, delivers 1 gram of fluoride per litre of water. Teas, especially green tea, juices, especially grape juices, and most canned foods are very high, containing concentrated fluoride. It`s easy to get way more than the "optimal dose" daily.

Most dentists are not aware of the current toxicology studies. Doctors even less so. They are invested in being the authorities, and many get kickbacks from selling drugs as widely as possible.

Although this will be hard to prove, because of intermediate money-laundering organizations, I suspect that the ADA also receives money from the polluting industries which supply the fluoride to our communities. The industrial polluters are forbidden to dump their toxic waste into the air or the neighboring watersheds. So, they scrape down their smokestacks, bag up the debris, label it as hazardous waste, and sell it to us, enjoying one more opportunity to profit. They are recycling their toxic waste through us, the people. And while maintaining the illusion that it’s all for the good, they hedge their bets that we will all be too sick to mount a massive class-action law suit.

Learn more about the author at her website: www.DrEmilyKane.com
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About the author

Dr Emily Kane is a practising naturopathic physician and licensed acupuncturist. For more info see www.DrEmilyKane.com

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posted November 19, 2007 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
Wow!!! I was JUST talking about this with one of my employees last Friday.

As a child i did the Flouride treatments at the dentist office, and have always used toothpaste with Flouride in it. I've also been diagnosed as ADHD, have hormone problems, believed to be infertile .... gosh! makes one wonder ....

Thanks for posting all this info ... going to go look around some more on this crap.

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posted November 19, 2007 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the info. I too, remember the flouride treatments at the dentist and the little pink chewable pills they gave us every year in grade school along with instructions on how to take good care of our teeth.

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posted November 20, 2007 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
OMG! 26T - I completely forgot, err didnt recall, the lil pink pills! I do remember now though.

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posted November 21, 2007 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message
We were living in Switzerland for several months when my daughter was young... and the pediatrician highly advise the pink pills for my daughter and she wasn't even one year old!

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posted November 21, 2007 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
So what can we do now? I did a liver/gallbladder flush a few months ago - what an experience! I just read how that can help to flush flouride out of the system.

A "heavy metal cleanse" is something I've wanted to do for awhile now.....
http://www.health-n-energy.com/heavymetal.htm

liver/gallbladder flush http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/learning/liver-and-gallbladder-flush.html
How to remove heavy metal toxins with oral chelation: http://www.allnaturalprevention.com/pages/heavy-metal-toxins.htm

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posted November 23, 2007 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
The flouride added to water (and toothpaste) bears little resemblance to the natural mineral (which provides a modicum level of proven cavity protection), and in areas where flouride was added to the water supply, cavities have increased rather significantly!

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posted November 25, 2007 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message
Article sent to me -- very interesting!

Fluoride Damages Your Brain!

If you still believe the myth that fluoride is good for your children’s (and your) teeth, think again. There are a vast number of scientific research studies confirming the opposite – that fluoride is a toxin that is extremely detrimental to your body, your brain, and even to your teeth.
One of the most active research areas today is fluoride’s ability to damage your brain. Recent human studies from China have confirmed the results of previous animal studies; that elevated fluoride exposure leads to reduced I.Q. in children.
Cognitive ability is further reduced if your child is deficient in iodine.
Prior to this, more than 30 animal studies produced since 1992 have reported impairment in learning and memory processes among animals treated with fluoride.
Even at levels as low as 1ppm (part per million), studies have demonstrated direct toxic effects on brain tissue, including:
• reduction in lipid content
• impaired anti-oxidant defense systems
• damage to your hippocampus
• damage to your purkinje cells
• increased uptake of aluminum
• formation of beta-amyloid plaques (the classic brain abnormality in Alzheimer's disease)
• accumulation of fluoride in your pineal gland.

Sources:
• Fluoride Action Network


Dr. Mercola's Comments:
There are so many scientific studies showing the direct, toxic effects of fluoride on your body, it’s truly remarkable that it’s NOT considered a scientific consensus by now. It truly amazes me that the medical (and dental) communities are so stubbornly resistant to connect the dots when it comes to the skyrocketing increase of cognitive decline in adults (Alzheimer’s and various dementia’s), and behavioral issues in children (ADD, ADHD, depression and learning disabilities of all kinds).
Fluoridating drinking water for dental health is a swindle of massive proportions.
As award-winning journalist, Christopher Bryson details in his book, The Fluoride Deception, fluoridating water began in the mid 1940’s as a solution to fluoride pollution, generated by the Atomic Bomb Program, and the aluminum industry.
Starting it off with a simple truth, that a natural form of fluoride is part of the composition of your teeth (organic calcium phosphate), they were able to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes, and convince everyone that drinking toxic chemical fluoride compounds – the waste materials from these fluoride-polluting industries – would be good for children’s teeth. It was sheer genius!
Start with a grain of truth, and end up with a lie the size of the Sahara.
Instead of risking increasing lawsuits from farmers whose crops and cattle were dying downwind, or having to spend enormous amounts of money to dispose of these chemicals safely, they were now able to SELL their waste material as a “health” product! Amazing!
And the cover-up continues to this day. Did you even know that when scientists study fluoride’s toxicity to humans, they study pharmaceutical grade fluoride (same stuff used in antidepressant drugs), but NOT the fluoride compounds actually USED for water fluoridation – the even more toxic waste materials now generated from Florida’s fertilizer industry?
So, in essence, their already detrimental results may in fact be FAR GREATER than currently perceived. Which is already bad enough, considering that basic sodium fluoride, (which is a far simpler toxin than the fluoride compounds used for most water fluoridation) is also used for:
• Rat and cockroach poisons
• Anesthetics
• Hypnotics
• Military nerve gas (sarin)
I am currently in the process of finalizing a Special Report on fluoride, so keep your eyes open for it. It and several other special reports on a variety of topics can be found on my site. My fluoride report will cover:
• The scam that initiated water fluoridation, and why people believed it
• How fluoride destroys your health
• What fluorosis really is, and why it’s not merely a “cosmetic defect”
• Its more potentially sinister uses, and much more
As I reported in an earlier article, in August 2007 the CDC has been charged with a formal complaint detailing unethical activities, and at the same time the Fluoride Action Network (FAN) released a Statement asking Congress to end water fluoridation in the United States, signed by more than 600 professionals, including a Nobel Prize winner, officers in the Union that represents Environmental Protection Agency professionals, and members of the National Research Council panel on fluoride's toxicology.
By October 2007, they had more than 1,000 professional signatories. If you are a professional, you can add your signature to their Congressional Statement here.
How You Can Keep Your Teeth Healthy Without Fluoride
Fluoride was never your answer in the first place, so don’t fret, thinking that by eliminating this toxin you’ll destroy your child’s teeth (or your own).
Instead, look to your diet for naturally healthy teeth. In fact, most people whose diet includes very little sugar and few processed foods have very low rates of tooth decay. Limiting, or eliminating sugar, and avoiding processed foods -- along with regular cleanings with your natural dentist -- will ensure that your teeth stay healthy naturally.
You can also protect yourself by using only non-fluoride toothpaste, and not receiving fluoride treatments from your dentist. Certain cements, fillings and bonding materials also contain fluoride, so talk to your dentist about non-fluoride options in those cases.
You definitely should NOT give your child additional fluoride supplements, which some dentists will prescribe if you live in a non-fluoridated area.
Unfortunately, removing fluoride from your drinking water is a far more difficult feat. Whereas some other chemicals added to your drinking water will evaporate, fluoride is not one of them. Neither cooking, food processing, regular filtration, nor digestion will remove fluoride.
The only known way to remove fluoride from water is by using a reverse osmosis filter. A simple carbon filter will not remove fluoride. You should also remember to filter not only the water that you drink, but also the water you use to wash vegetables, make ice cubes, and cook with.
In addition to your kitchen, you might want to consider adding filters in your shower and your tub as well, since you will also absorb contaminations through your skin when you shower or bathe.
I also recommend reading my revealing interview with Christopher Bryson, for more information about the fluoride deception that has plagued the United States for 60 years. It’s time to put an end to the cover-up.


600 Physicians, Dentists, Scientists and Environmentalists Call for an End to Fluoridation

A statement asking Congress to end water fluoridation in the United States has been released by the Fluoride Action Network (FAN). Over 600 professionals, including a Nobel Prize winner, officers in the Union that represents Environmental Protection Agency professionals, and members of the National Research Council panel on fluoride's toxicology, have signed the statement.

The report urges Congressional members to “recognize that fluoridation is outdated, has serious risks that far outweigh any minor benefits, violates sound medical ethics, and denies freedom of choice.”

It cites eight recent events that call for an urgent end to water fluoridation. Among them:
• A 500-page review of fluoride’s toxicology by the National Research Council of the National Academies, published in 2006.
• Evidence from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) that found 32 percent of U.S. children have dental fluorosis, which is caused by fluoride.
• The American Dental Association’s 2006 policy change, which recommends not giving fluoridated water to infants for the first 12 months of life.
• A Harvard University study that found a five- to seven-fold increased risk of osteosarcoma (bone cancer) among young men who were exposed to fluoride between the ages of 6 and 8.
• The CDC’s recognition that fluoride is beneficial in reducing tooth decay when it’s applied topically, not taken systemically.
The statement calls for members of Congress to sponsor a new Congressional Hearing on Fluoridation that requires those who continue to support water fluoridation to provide scientific basis, under oath, for their continued recommendations.

According to one of the statement’s signers, Dr. Arvid Carlsson, winner of the 2000 Nobel Prize for Medicine, "Fluoridation is against all principles of modern pharmacology. It's really obsolete."

CDC Covering Up Serious Hazards of Water Fluoridation

On August 9, Daniel Stockin, a public health professional of The Lillie Center, Inc., presented the CDC’s joint ethics panel with a detailed, formal complaint alleging unethical activities by the CDC.

According to the complaint, Oral Health Division manager William Maas and CDC Director Julie Gerberding have committed “serious and egregious” unethical actions, by not disseminating new findings about the real hazards of fluoridated water.
Stockin stated, “People with kidney disease or on dialysis should see this complaint and the report by the National Research Council on fluoride. And if you happen to be a member of the population with diabetes or HIV, you will be amazed how the NRC report contains important information you should know about – but that CDC has elected not to openly share with the public because it runs at odds with putting fluoride in drinking water.”
In a separate development, news surfaced that on the same day 600 doctors, dentists, and other professionals have signed a petition calling for a halt to water fluoridation, asking for congressional hearings on the issue.

What Your Dentist Isn’t Telling You About Fluoride

The Optimal Wellness Center is a reference point for guiding healthcare professionals and consumers through the information resources of the Internet.
The Fluoride Debate: A response to the American Dental Association's booklet, "Fluoridation Facts" www.fluoridedebate.com
Fluoride Action Network (Excellent Resource, Very Up-to-Date) www.fluoridealert.org
Fluoride: Protected Pollutant or Panacea? (Elkie Babiuk's site) www.fluoridation.com
New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof/
Fluoride Controversy, the Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients www.tldp.com/fluoride.htm
More Scientific Facts on Fluoride www.all-natural.com/fleffect.html
Fluoride Research Journal www.fluoride-journal.com
Preventive Dental Health Site
emporium.turnpike.net/P/PDHA/health.htm
America Overdosed on Fluoride - Lynn Landes (Includes e-mail correspondence inwhich an ADA spokesperson refutes news reports that non-fluoridated bottled water causes cavities, and what you can do to ban fluoride and educate others.) www.zerowasteamerica.org/Fluoride.htm
The Toxic Effects of Fluoride (Be aware that they are selling a fluoride removal system.) www.wholywater.com/fluoride.html
Fluoridation Debate (Environmental Health Perspectives, Volume 105, Number 11, November 1997)
ehpnet1.niehs.nih.gov/docs/1997/105-11/forum.html
Fluoridation: The Overdosing of America - Fact or Fiction? (Slides by Gerald H. Smith, D.D.S.) www.icnr.com/FluoridePres.html
Darryl W. Roundy, D.C. - Fluoride Research www.atlaschiro.com/fluorideresch.htm
Fluoridation Fluoride Toxic Chemicals In Your Water www.holisticmed.com/fluoride
Does water fluoridation have negative side effects?
doctoryourself.com/fluoride_cancer.html

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/fluoride.htm

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http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/fluoride.htm

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posted November 30, 2007 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message
Amazing information... 26 Taurus...
thanks for sharing!

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An interesting article regarding Tooth paste... thought I'd add to the thread:

Sun Dec 2, 2007 11:54 pm (PST)

Well McLeans burnt the skin on my mouth and it took 1 1/2 years to get back to normal (thanks to paw paw extract). N

Behind the Label: Colgate Total
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Do you suffer from mouth ulcers or rashes on your face? Are your teeth
pitted and yellow? If the answer to these questions is yes, then your
toothpaste may be to blame.


Date:01/10/2004 Author:Pat Thomas

The truth is that very few of us are aware of how harsh most toothpastes
are and the potential damage they can do to your mouth and body. While children are at the greatest risk because they tend to swallow more while brushing their teeth, many of the chemicals in toothpaste can easily be
absorbed into the body via the tongue and the thin mucous membrane inside the mouth.


Toothpastes contain a number of slow-motion poisons including saccharin and artificial colourings and flavourings (all potential carcinogens) . More worrying still is the fact that every tube of family toothpaste contains a lethal dose of fluoride. In the UK advertising promotes fluoride toothpastes as healthy; in the US the government regulator the Food and Drug Administration requires their packaging to include health warnings and information on contacting local poisons control officers in the event of ingestion.


Amazingly, for something that is put in the mouth and frequently swallowed, anybody can make and sell toothpaste in the UK: licences are only necessary if manufacturers make medicinal claims (such as an ability to reduce tooth sensitivity) .

Ingredients

Sorbitol: Sweetener and tartar control agent, humectant. Bloating and
intestinal cramping in high doses, laxative. Because of its laxative
effects, the use of gel toothpastes (which can contain up to 70 per cent
sorbitol) by small children should be supervised, possibly even
discouraged, by parents.


Glycerin: Lubricant. Improves the feel of the product. Humectant: keeps the product moist. Glycerin can be processed from plants or animals. Generally safe, but can dry the skin around the mouth.

PVM/MA copolymer: Plastic-like glue derived from polyvinyl, often found in hair gels and sprays, which sticks the triclosan, and other ingredients, to the teeth and gums. Health effects unknown.


Sodium Hydroxide: Bleaching/cleaning agent. A common component of oven and drain cleaners. Can cause skin irritation.

Sodium Fluoride: strengthens tooth enamel, antibacterial. Health effects:
Fluorosis: spotting, mottling and yellowing of the teeth; especially in
children; Osteoporosis: ingested fluoride leeches calcium from the bones; Allergy/hypersensit ivity reactions; Poisonous: ingestion can cause salivation, nausea, vomiting, epigastric pain and diarrhoea.

THERE IS ENOUGH FLUORIDE IN A 100-MILLILITRE TUBE OF ‘FAMILY’ TOOTHPASTE TO KILL A SMALL CHILD.


Sodium lauryl sulphate (SLS) P: detergent and foaming agent. SLS is a harsh cleanser often used as an engine de-greaser. It’s added to toothpaste to make it foam, but is not necessary to clean your teeth. Health effects: Irritating to the mucous membranes in the mouth; mouth ulcers, canker sores; contact eczema.

Aroma: flavouring. Health effects: Allergic reactions: some of these may
mimic common dental problems, such as bleeding gums, mouth ulcers and gingivitis (inflammation of the gums). It is a potential carcinogen: aromas are generally petroleum derivatives and can be contaminated with cancer-causing substances

CI 42090: Blue Colouring. Health effects: hyperactivity, skin rashes.
Potential carcinogen: there is some evidence that CI 42090, also known as FD&C Blue 1 and E133, can cause cancer in animals. BANNED IN AUSTRIA, BELGIUM, FRANCE, GERMANY, NORWAY, SWITZERLAND AND SWEDEN

Carageenan: Thickener. Part of a naturally occurring family of
carbohydrates extracted from red seaweed; also known as E407. Health
effects: stomach aches, potential carcinogen: has been associated with
cancer of the gastrointestinal tract in animals, and laboratory evidence
suggests it can act as a trigger for breast cancer in humans.


Triclosan: Antibacterial agent. Reduces plaque. Health effects: gum damage - causes premature cell death in gum tissues; allergic reactions;
ulceration; alters the biodynamic balance of the mouth - kills ‘good’ and
‘bad’ bacteria, which could make users more vulnerable to infection. A
chlorinated aromatic, triclosan is molecularly similar to dioxins, PCBs
(highly toxic chlorine-based compounds) and the herbicide Agent Orange. Indeed, its manufacturing process can release dioxins (powerful hormone disrupters) into the environment. It is also a chlorophenol, a class of chemicals that can cause cancer in animals. Commonly used as a pesticide, it is easily absorbed into the body via the mouth, and has been associated with liver damage in animals.

Saccharin: Artificial sweetener. Health effects: carcinogenic - linked to
bladder cancer in animals. In the US, foods that include saccharin must
declare it is a potential carcinogen on the label. No such warnings are
required in the UK.

CI 47005: Yellow colouring. Health effects: asthma; rashes; hyperactivity.
Aspirin-sensitive people should avoid this colouring. Also known as FD&C yellow 10 and E104, CI 47005 is a coal-tar dye and can contain impurities that are neurotoxic and carcinogenic. Banned in Australia, the US and Norway.

Alternatives
Even some ‘natural’ toothpastes contain contested ingredients. So, make sure you read the label before you buy. Some of the better options include:

AloeDent www.optimahealthcar e.co.uk

Kingfisher www.kingfishertooth paste.com

Jason www.jason-natural. com

Tom’s of Maine www.tomsofmain. com

Green people www.greenpeople. co.uk

Comvita www.comvita. com

Neal’s Yard www.nealsyardremedi es.com

Sarakan www.sarakan. com

Weleda www.weleda.co. uk

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posted December 19, 2007 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
bump, with gross sadness.

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posted January 18, 2008 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rubina     Edit/Delete Message
Does it make any difference if the water gets boiled before you drink it?

Also, Beverly Hills Formula toothpaste have no flouride or anything artifical.

And thank you people for this information

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posted January 19, 2008 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
Rubina
quote:
Unfortunately, removing fluoride from your drinking water is a far more difficult feat. Whereas some other chemicals added to your drinking water will evaporate, fluoride is not one of them. Neither cooking, food processing, regular filtration, nor digestion will remove fluoride.
The only known way to remove fluoride from water is by using a reverse osmosis filter

I'd have to say No it wouldnt make a difference since flouride doesn't evaporate.


My fiance's father doesnt use toothpaste. Instead he uses a bar of soap (natural of course)


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posted March 06, 2008 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiBi DeAngelo     Edit/Delete Message
Fluoride Action Network's (FAN) website at http://www.FluorideAlert.Org.
FAN's Fluoride Headlines for February 2008

1) Fluoride: A Threat to the Brain

On February 20th, a distinguished panel of experts convened by the Institute of Children's Environmental Health released a consensus statement summarizing "the latest science about environmental contaminants associated with neurodevelopmental disorders, such as learning disabilities, autism spectrum disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), intellectual disabilities and developmental delays." Fluoride was one of the environmental contaminants reviewed by the scientists. According to the report:

"Excessive fluoride ingestion is known to lower thyroid hormone levels, which is particularly critical for women with subclinical hypothyroidism: decreased maternal thyroid levels adversely affect fetal neurodevelopment. In addition, a study in China reported decreased child IQ levels associated with fluoride in drinking water. The question is what level of exposure results in harmful effects to children. The primary concern is that multiple routes of exposure, from drinking water, food and dental care products, may result in a high enough cumulative exposure to fluoride to cause developmental effects... It is not clear that the benefits of adding fluoride to drinking water outweigh risks of neurodevelopment or other effects such as dental fluorosis."

To read a press release discussing the review's findings on fluoride, click here .
To read the full consensus statement, click here.

2) The Nursery Water Scandal: Company Continues to Market Fluoride for Babies

While prominent child health scientists are beginning to address fluoride's risks to the brain, a bottled water company (Nursery Water) continues to aggressively market fluoridated water for infants under the age of 1. The company continues to market this product despite the fact that the American Dental Association - the nation's most prominent promoter of fluoride - has advised that babies not receive fluoridated water. In February, the tireless Environmental Working Group (EWG) issued a complaint about Nursery Water's actions to the Food & Drug Administration and Federal Trade Commission. According to EWG, Nursery Water is violating the law by contradicting FDA's own ruling that bottled water companies can not make claims that fluoridated water benefits babies. As noted by Jane Houlihan, EWG's Vice President for Research: "Nursery Water's behavior is completely irresponsible. They are misleading parents, misrepresenting the facts, and placing profits above the health of babies." To learn more, click here

3) "Poisoned Horses": New Video Documents Fluoridation's Effects on Horses

Dr. David Kennedy, from the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology (IAOMT), has posted a new video on YouTube titled "Poisoned Horses." Horses are much larger than canaries but in the case of fluoride toxicity they may prove to be an ideal canary for what fluoride might do to humans. Why? Because horses drink a huge amount of water each day. This video documents what happened to Cathy and Wayne Justus' quarter horses after their community in Colorado began fluoridating its water. The horses developed severe dental fluorosis; arthritic pains typical of skeletal fluorosis; abnormalities of the hooves; dermatological reactions; behavioral changes; and colic. All of these symptoms and conditions have been investigated and confirmed by Dr. Lennart Krook of Cornell University. The video is a must see. To watch it, click here

4) UK Under Attack... Hawaii, Pennsylvania and Australia too

Unlike the United States, the vast majority of western Europe has rejected water fluoridation. For instance, whereas over 60% of Americans have tap water that is fluoridated, the respective figure in Europe is less than 3%. Nevertheless, health officials in England have recently announced a new plan to try and force more water supplies in England to start adding fluoride. A similar attempt recently in Scotland was overwhelming rejected, so let us hope for a similar result in England.

It's not just England, however, that's under siege. Here in the US, health officials have indicated a renewed desire to fluoridate Hawaii (even though Honolulu passed a resolution a few years ago banning water fluoridation). In addition, legislators in Pennsylvania and Nebraska are trying to mandate fluoridation in their respective states, and across the globe in Australia, the parliament in Queensland is trying to institute a massive expansion of fluoridation as well. Citizens in all areas are vigilantly fighting back - as demonstrated nicely in this letter from a Pennsylvania dentist and in this video of a demonstration in Australia. (You can help the activists in Pennsylvania by contacting ActionPA and you can help the activists in Australia by signing FAN's Open Letter to the Ministers of Queensland.)

5) Don't Swallow Your Toothpaste!

The Times in England writes: "Toothpaste causing bad teeth? It seems illogical, particularly since dentists so fervently urge us to use it. But many parents are unaware of the potential risks of letting children under 7 swallow fluoride toothpaste, especially in fluoridated areas, where they are already receiving a background dose of the chemical." To learn more about why parents need to be vigilant about not letting their child swallow toothpaste, click here

6) And now for some GOOD NEWS..

In February, several communities rejected plans to fluoridate water, including Manilla, California, Ocean Springs, Mississippi and Welland, Ontario; and a councilwoman in Fairbanks, Alaska has put forth a resolution for Fairbanks to follow the lead of Alaska's capital city (Juneau) and remove fluoride from its water. In addition, over 150 more health and medical professionals have added their name to FAN's Professionals Statement to End Water Fluoridation - bringing the current total of signers to over 1,500. And thanks to the nearly 10,000 concerned citizens who have signed FAN's Online Letter to Congress, Congressional representatives are becoming increasingly familiar with this Statement. The letter calls on Congress to follow the important recommendations of these professionals. To sign the letter to Congress, click here

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