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26taurus
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posted March 30, 2008 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Once in awhile I get them on and off for a few days then theyre gone. All day today they were almost nonstop and it's freaking me out a bit. My heart is beating rapidly a few times every hour or so. Should I be worried? I dont like this feeling. Maybe they will just pass after a few days like every other time?

Anyone else experience this?

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posted March 30, 2008 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nattie33     Edit/Delete Message
I have had a condition for many years called pac's maby that could be it
http://www.medhelp.org/forums/cardio/messages/35136.html


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posted March 30, 2008 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
I get them all the time and have done all my life particularly when excited or stressed.
There are different types.
You can have an ectopic heartbeat which feels like it has missed a beat and then tries to catch up.

You can have the fibrillations which is fluttering.

And my personal favourite tachycardia.
This is the one in which your heart races and just to really freak you out thumps against your chest.
This tends to manifest itself at about 3 am if you are under stress or (and this is interesting) if you have eaten something you are intolerant to.

It's actually used as a guide to test for food intolerances. If your heart races 15 mins after ingesting certain foods it usually means your body is not liking it and is letting you know.

Most palpitations 26 are benign and symptomatic of something else e.g

You are in love.

You are overworked and strung out.
Too much caffeine or stimulants.

Your body took offence at the bottle of red wine, large curry and Valerian tablet combo.

This happened to me once.
I do not recommend it.

So unless you are extremely overweight, smoke two packs of fags a day and haven't walked more than 200 yards since you left school I think you are probably a little wrung out??
Stop noticing them if you can and I am sure everything will get back to normal.

Oh and to stop rapid heartbeat, hold your breath and exert a pressure in your throat.

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Azalaksh
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posted March 30, 2008 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
bunnies, I love your wit!!
I too, sometimes get the 3am tachycardia, where it seems like your heart is thumping so hard it's trying to beat its way out of your chest. I've definitely gotten the ones that happen 15-30 minutes after eating -- especially when I give in to that twice-a-year craving for a Taco Bell burrito

T, I get the palps from time to time too.
But what I've found helps is Magnesium. Since I read that you should always take mag WITH calcium, I've added that to my supplements. Now I seldom get the palps. I used to think something was seriously wrong with me, and considered getting the Holter monitor from my doc, but it has proved unnecessary.

Sometimes deep breathing will help, or forcing a cough.....

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posted March 30, 2008 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nattie33     Edit/Delete Message
Also for women it can become worse at that time of the month. I would see a doctor to find out

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posted March 30, 2008 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
nattie, thank you for the link! and you know what?.. I should be getting my period any time now and maybe that has something to do with it. I'm going to pay more attention to the timing if this with that now. Are you on medication for your condition?
Thank you.

bunnies, Thank you for that informative and FUNNY post.

I think i've experienced all of those types you described, but mostly it's the fluttering that happens. Often after eating pasta my heart races too. I know pasta isnt really good for us and try to stay away from it.

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"Your body took offence at the bottle of red wine, large curry and Valerian tablet combo."

"So unless you are extremely overweight, smoke two packs of fags a day and haven't walked more than 200 yards since you left school I think you are probably a little wrung out??
Stop noticing them if you can and I am sure everything will get back to normal."


lmao

You are probably right in that it's overwork and stress related. And like nattie said, perhaps menstrual cycle related too.

LOL Zala! I know all about that craving!
The multi I take has Mag and Cal in it but maybe i need more.

Taking some deep breaths is good advice too. Auuummmm...

Thanks for you help ladies.

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posted March 30, 2008 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
p.s. i still have the fluttering today. not as bad as yesterday though. maybe the good nights sleep i got for once helped.

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posted March 30, 2008 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
(for some reason I wasnt able to copy the whole article )

Nice site here.
http://www.womentowomen.com/symptoms/heartpalpitations.aspx

Stress is often a cause of irregular heartbeat

As important as the amount of the stress is whether it is occasional or unremitting. The human body simply isn’t designed for constant stress. When that occurs, our ability to cope with stress can be overwhelmed, a condition known as adrenal fatigue.

If you inventory the sources of stress in your life you may realize that much of it is constant stress. It now seems the norm for women to be "maxed out" in all directions. Most of us work, and the workplace has gotten more demanding. Most of us raise children and help care for aging parents. We often have relationship issues that create stress too. And we are conditioned to put ourselves in last place on the list of priorities.

Restoring hormonal balance often relieves heart palpitations

When you understand the hormonal imbalances that underlie symptoms like palpitations, you can see how natural methods are often the most successful. The natural approach is to give your body more support while trying to reduce the demands you place on it. We strongly advocate a well-rounded program of nutritional supplements, dietary changes and stress reduction. Gentle endocrine support may also be helpful.

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posted March 30, 2008 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
T, my sleep has been much better, and I've been much more relaxed in general (despite the stresses I've had for the past two years) since I started taking melatonin occasionally to get to sleep.....

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posted March 30, 2008 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nattie33     Edit/Delete Message
26 taurus i have the same thing after pasta and also wine.No im not on any meds for it.I got it after a long battle with anoxeria.I believe in my case that's where it stemmed from.

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posted March 30, 2008 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
26

Most palpatations, or ectopic beats, are not life threatning, depending on your age.

I assume you are not an 85 year old woman!

They are caused by many, many things. Way too many to list here.

I get premature atrial contractions, pac's when I eat chocolate, am stressed, drink too much alcohol am dehydrated, am hormonal. They are benign. In older women and men, tho, pac's can turn into atrial fibrilation, and this is not necessarially lethal, but needs to be addressed.

You usually feel the pac's, the feeling is from the rush of blood that is created when the heart electrically realings itself, pauses, temporarily, and the extra blood that builds up in the ventricles can be felt, that is what you feel.

However...PVC's premature ventricular contractions, can turn into a lethal arrythemia very fast.These are not usually felt. Once I had a patient go into vtac, ventricular tachycardia, a very long run of pvc's and he was just sitting there like nothing was going on, and said he felt nothing. Again, usually not in younger individuals and usually caused from magnesium and especially potassium deficiencies, or unknown heart defects, or heart disease.

The best thing is to see a doctor and have an EKG. You may even have to wear a "holter monitor" for 24 hours, cause just a spot check EKG often misses them.

I diagnosed myself oneday while at work, felt them and hooked myself up to a monitor. Most people do not have this luxury.

Usually in young, otherwise healthy individuals, they are pac's and nothing to worry about. They can be annoying, like when I lay on my left side they really drive me crazy!

If you do get an EKG and find they are pac's find your triggers and eliminate them.

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posted March 30, 2008 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
O, and physiologically speaking the heart is irritable, for whatever reason.

Metaphysically speaking, the heart can be irritable too, ie: a broken heart, depression, etc.

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26taurus
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posted March 30, 2008 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Z, Thank you. Someone else I know brought up melatonin recently and I've been meaning to pick some up.

Nattie, so happy to hear you won that battle.

Hippi, No i'm not an 85 year old woman though I do feel like i'm 95 quite often.

Thank you for all of the information. I dont have health insurance atm and cant afford a doctors visit. And truthfully if it is something serious and it ends up that it's my time to go by heart attack then, so be it. I know that is hightly doubtful unfortunately.

Thanks for reasuring me that it's not much to worry about and commonplace.

I was born with a broken heart and depression so i'm sure that plays it's part too.

*pms-ing*

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posted April 01, 2008 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatgirl     Edit/Delete Message
I find a few drops of Bach's Rescue Remedy at the beginning of the onset helps a great deal, in addition to that, I sometimes splash cold water on my face, and that will make them stop as well. Sometimes laying flat on my back works. oh yeah, and I've heard that this is more common in women than men for some reason.

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posted April 02, 2008 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Muse1     Edit/Delete Message
Hi,
26 Taurus I just wanted to say first is that when you can please go to a dr. Also when do you get the palpitation when you are resting or going up the stairs or doing some type of activity? There are a few things it could be there is nothing wrong with your heart but it could there something related to your blood. Let me give you a few examples:
In my case I started to have palpitation once in a while I was in high school. They checked my heart did all kind of test and couldn’t find anything. It stopped for a few years. Then it came back but I had other problems on top of that. I went to see a specialist who told me my body over produces adrenal hormones and cortisol. So basically when I want to rest I get the heart palpitation. What I did to minimize the problem, I took some detox products (by Arise and Shine). This really helped me, which I will use again.
I have fried who gets the heart palpitation when he goes up the stairs; he had stopped smoking and drinking coffee 2 weeks before that. He also went to a specialist who told him anything irregular with the heart should be checked. He had to make some lifestyle changes.
I learned that there are so many reasons why we could have heart palpitations, but it always best to know for sure the reason why we have them in the first place. Before you do any types of self medication please monitor your symptoms and check a medical website for answers.
I hope this helps,

Muse

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posted April 02, 2008 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nattie33     Edit/Delete Message
next time it happens go to the emergency room. Im not sure but i dont think they can turn you away.Try to get it checked out so you can have peace of mind

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posted April 02, 2008 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I'd like to add another thing that I've not necessarily learned formally: being tired. Exhaustion can cause your heart to rebel a bit.

In the absense of a doctor visit, I think a good night's sleep is probably in order.

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hippichick
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posted April 03, 2008 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
26

You have recieved some really good information, but I so wish people would not practice medicine without a license to do so.

If you are unable to see a qualified physician, then listen to your body...she is the best diagnostitician of all!

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posted April 03, 2008 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
hippi ~

I wouldn't say we were "practicing medicine without a license" -- at least in my own case, it was just describing my personal experiences. I'm sure 26T will not just blindly willynilly follow someone's advice without checking it out, doing her own research and then coming to a decision.

I'm going to see an herbalist soon -- a man who has studied for 30 years (site here: http://www.matthewwoodherbs.com/Philosophy.html ) -- to explore more options for curing my psoriasis, and also to find out about classes so I can work with herbs myself. Do you consider that "practicing medicine without a license"?? Do you find it unwise for me to "prescribe" myself decoctions and infusions that have been used for centuries for curing illness or injury, just because the "recipes" were not given to me by someone with 'MD' after their name??

Just curious

I'm in favor of the trend towards medical self-empowerment. Sure, there's bad or incomplete information out there. But you can't protect foolish people from themselves, and I don't know if it even makes sense to try. I for one am glad that I don't need to get a prescription for Motrin/ibuprofen or naproxen sodium anymore

I'm grateful to have health insurance thru work, but my deductible has climbed from $500 to $2,500 in the past 5 years, so basically I have to pay for all medical costs myself out of pocket. If in researching I can find reasonable evidence from many sources that something would be helpful for a health issue I have, then I probably will try it, rather than spending $100 for an office visit of ten minutes and a prescription for some overpriced synthetic drug that treats only the symptoms and not the cause.

Just my $.02

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posted April 04, 2008 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zanya     Edit/Delete Message
Azala ~

i have read tons of excellent wisdom about the healing properties of apple cider vinegar. people who couldn't cure their psoriasis with any other method rave about acv.

essentially, it involves both topical and internal application. to distill what i've learned, the best methods are bathing with a cup of the acv added to the bath and taking a tonic of two tablespoons of acv mixed with water 3 times a day.

the raves about the effectiveness of this are overwhelming. you must add a little bit of baking soda to the acv with water...this keeps your teeth from being affected, and the baking soda helps in alkalizing your system as well. what many people have found is that the cause of conditions such as allergies and psoriasis is not enough alkaline balance in the system. i have the book, Alkalize or Die, and it suggests taking the acv/baking soda as an emergency remedy for allergies, as these are a result of the body trying to alkalize itself. seems this applies to psoriasis as well.

i'll list the sites that have this info. i found the bath cure in seeking information on how to cure eczema. a woman whose child had worst-case eczema found that all the ointment treatments and prescriptions had no effect. once she started him on the acv baths the eczema literally disappeared.

all skin conditions seem to have reacted favorably to the acv skin application. many of the psoriasis users of acv mentioned applying it directly to the skin. they mentioned their skin burning with the direct application of the acv, and then the need to apply some kind of soothing ointment to relieve the burning, though they had great success with the direct application. the bath acutally makes more sense to me. you can soak in the acv for an extended amount of time, and perhaps avoid the burning sensation of applying straight to the skin.

as for taking the acv internally, most recommendations are for two teaspoons to a cup of water, but this particular site, that boasts all the cures of acv, suggests two tablespoons per cup, as well as the baking soda. this is what works for me and my allergies.

i hope this helps; i'll list the primary places i've read of the acv cure.

please note on this site that there are several different places that discuss the acv cure ~ the psoriasis section, the skin section, and the acv section are some of them. there are other suggested remedies for the psoriasis, but the acv seems to be the miracle cure for every skin issue mentioned. as i said, people mentioned applying it directly to the skin for psoriasis, but i'll list the instance of the baths for eczema ~

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zanya
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3/23/2006: Jennifer from Wichita, KS writes, OMG!!!! I am usually the one that never believes "this stuff will work", but I have tried everything to boost my energy levels, to diminish my mood swings, to curb my appetite, and to clear my skin,...and when I say everything, I mean it, until now. ACV is the cure ALL! There is nothing that it doesn't fix, from my large appetite to the weeds growing in my yard. I would take stock in this stuff! I have not experienced a headache, (which I had daily for 12 years) in the last two weeks. I have lost 8 pounds in two weeks, My energy levels are through the roof, ( and with 4 kids it is important to keep those levels high ) My skin and hair is fresher and silkier, without having to buy expensive shampoos and conditioners. My husband wont go near this stuff,...but I swear by it! I have my kids drinking it too, and I can tell a difference in their overall temperaments, their active levels are not extreme, they think clearer, and for my youngest son who has Eczema, this is the only thing that has cleared him 100%, and we have put lots of money into soaps, lotions, and special diet needs for the last 3 years with him. Put a cup of ACV in his bath every night, towel him off and he is good to go, Before ACV , we would have to bathe him twice a day, once with soap, and the other just a water bath, and then lather him down with lotions and prescription creams. This has leveled him out and his skin is clear for the first time since birth. Now I don't have to bandage him up like a mummy when it gets really bad, because it simply is not there anymore!!! For ANYONE, with ANYTHING wrong with them,...this is the cure! I swear by ACV,...it has saved my family.

http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/acvinegar.html#reader

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/psoriasis.html

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posted April 04, 2008 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zanya     Edit/Delete Message
here's another place with people discussing the miracle of acv for psoriasis ~

http://curezone.com/blogs/fm.asp?i=973715

please note that this site states the tonic amount as 2 teaspoons of acv per cup of water. as the earthclinic site suggests, i think the 2 tablespoons a much better tonic, and would not take it without the baking soda. personally, i like Braggs unfiltered organic apple cider, usually find it at any natural market, or highly evolved supermarket.

last, i will post the section on acid/alkaline balance that seems to make such a difference in all areas of health and healthy functioning. as i stated above, the book Alkalize or Die is a great resource as well.

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1038915

(what's funny, i was reading this article at curezone, and there is one post that re-directs here, to LL. Sunchild posted this article a while back and i bumped it up...here's the link here in HH ~

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001330.html

blessings Azala,
zanya

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posted April 04, 2008 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
T I never saw this. thinking of you still

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posted April 05, 2008 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi
I have a condition called SVT supraventricular tachycardia. Basically it's a flaw in my electrical system of my heart that causes racing. I could be sitting at a computer and bam my heart's racing at 180 bpm. I guess I had it as early as high school; I remember walking down the hall and my breath was taken away for a few seconds and I felt a few minor heart palpitations. In my twenties I had a few episodes of tachycardia and misdiagnosed myself as hyperventilating. I breath in a paper bag and after a few minutes it would stop. (now I know that this wasn't helping and my "clock" just reset after a certain amount of time and told my heart to stop.) About five years ago, my car was hit by someone and my heart went racing and wouldn't stop after a few hours I finally went to the ER and they came running to me with crash carts, etc.I was given two injection and ended up spending the night and still didn't understnad what SVT was. I hated being there and never wanted to go back. Big mistake in thinking here, so when I had other episodes they would become increasingly longer each time. 3 hours, then 4, then 8... Finally one time I went crying into the ER and they stopped it with an injection. Fortunately the medication they used did the trick and I didn't need to stay. I learned that there are ways to stop this and prevent going to the ER. First I see a cardiologist and I take a beta blocker daily. If I do get an episode. I can do an exercise -- breath out forcibly as if I were vomitting and simultaneously pretend I am forcing out a bowel movement. I do this as long as I can stand it. If that doesn't work which it no longer does for me. I slowly apply ice packs to the back of my neck, my chest, my head, my forehead... for as long it takes ususally a few minutes to shock my heart back into rhythm. I know someone who uses a sink of ice water and slowly starts at the back of the neck face, head, etc. It gets really cold but works. If I have a racing heart I try to stop it within one hour otherwise I need to go to the ER immediately (otherwise memory keeps adding time, remember what I said about 3 then 4 then 8 hours.) Going to the ER scared me the first couple of times. But now that I understand SVT, it's OK I can deal with it effectively.

Here's my advice - get a diagnosis!!!!!! Look at how I waited and waited and my internal clock will no longer shut off my palpitations.( last time was 8 hours of my heart beating between 140 and 180+ bpm) If I have a problem and let it go to the point of the injections not working --- it's will be those heart paddles that are like a horse kicking you in the chest. Your condition could be lots of things, so don't follow my advice!!!!!! It could be SVT,
mitral valve prolapse (not likely) too much caffeine (I can't have any), drug side effects, stimulants or anything like cocaine, or even coca cola,certain decongestants, too much chocolate.
Stay physically active and avoid high cholesterol foods.Stress is a big factor here especially if your not getting enough rest

Go see a doctor, this is probably an easy fix, but don't let it go on too long.

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posted April 05, 2008 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
zanya, thank you for all that info about ACV
I actually have been taking it daily, but I've only been doing the 1 tsp dosage rather than multiple tablespoons, so I'll try a bit more.
I've read there can be a danger of OVER-alkalizing your body -- and causing just as many problems as the balance being too acidic.....

Our bodies are designed to function on the alkaline side of the spectrum. For instance, the blood must have a pH from 7.35 to 7.45. If it drops below or rises above that, a health crisis will occur. If it falls as low as 7.2, the person is seriously ill. If it gets down to a 7.1, that person would probably need to be hospitalized and is in danger of going into a coma. Or, if the pH rises too high, a seizure could occur. Sometimes the pH can rise to a state of over-alkalinity. This occurs because excessive acids have damaged the body's normal ability to eliminate ammonia, which the body has created in a desperate attempt to handle severe, ongoing over-acidity. When ammonia enters the blood, alkalosis occurs. Both over-acidity and over-alkalinity indicate that the body is seriously electrolyte-deficient.

From: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0HKL/is_1_8/ai_76445417

I'm grateful for your links and your thoughts -- will check them all out when I get home from work.

Zala

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