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Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
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posted April 05, 2009 02:53 AM
Spiritual EmergencyDr. Stan Grof Dr. David Lukoff John Weir Perry "Trials of the Visionary Mind" "Spiritual emergencies should not be medicated and can be beneficial."
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posted April 05, 2009 03:20 AM
Very thought provoking, isnt it? Thanks, I hadnt seen those before. I found some interesting ones awhile back when I started looking into this. WIll post if i dig up.IP: Logged |
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posted April 05, 2009 03:22 AM
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgnMrKTWCqo&feature=PlayList&p=6B4602C4EB1550B F&index=0&playnext=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS1jlW7yVh0&feature=channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkJtrGPtP30&feature=response_watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi9lGv1jJv8&feature=response_watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvySe_GFwE4&feature=channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCf3NoCgJCU&feature=channel IP: Logged |
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posted April 05, 2009 03:23 AM
that 3rd one (part 3) i posted on page 1 is really cool.IP: Logged |
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posted April 05, 2009 01:21 PM
One of your comments was really good. It sounds like the woman i see is into Maslow.And I was wondering the other day about why so called "normal" or "successful" people arent studied more. IP: Logged |
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posted April 05, 2009 01:23 PM
quote: I am an individual who has undergone a transformative experience that in this culture and setting would be identified as psychosis or schizophrenic. Other cultures and settings have other names for the same experience: kundalini awakening, shamanism, mysticism, gnosis, the psychotic-visionary episode, the dark night of the soul, ego death, the alchemical process, positive disintegration, post traumatic stress disorder with psychotic features, spiritual emergency, etc. I was not on any form of spiritual path previous to that experience nor was I experimenting with ethnogens. I was simply an individual in a great deal of pain doing my best to get through it. That experience lasted approximately six weeks. I was guided through it by a mentor figure who appeared and served as my constant companion. Everything in this blog has been researched after the fact. I share it for the benefit of others who may have no framework for interpreting their own psycho-spiritual crisis.
http://spiritualrecoveries.blogspot.com/2007/08/sean-bipolar-crisis-or-waking-up.html _________________________________________ Nice site: http://www.alternativedepressiontherapy.com/Bipolar-Symptoms.html
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posted April 05, 2009 02:33 PM
I think he means "entheogens".  IP: Logged |
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posted April 05, 2009 02:41 PM
Looks like the one you removed. But the replacement is just as nice.  IP: Logged |
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posted April 05, 2009 03:05 PM
I left three comments that they deleted. The most insightful objections they have received yet, and they swept them under the inter-rug. Maslow appears to be going to the opposite extreme and studying only people whom he deems "self-actualized". As if simply noting these characteristics is enough. As if all we need is to hear about these people and their traits, and then we will just put it into action. Like Nietzsche said, you may as well say to a person "Be smarter" or "be taller". It's like showing someone who is upset about being short a picture of a tall person, reaching for something on a top shelf, and saying, "See, that is how its done. Now, if you are honest with yourself, you will take responsibility and reach that top shelf." Duh. It's absurd. Its this brutal, "no-nonsense", hard-nosed approach that appeals to brutal-minded people, in my opinion. Nevermind that some of us are more complicated than that; that we may have a number of individuals within us, all struggling to actualize themselves, and if we champion any one of them it means suppressing the others, and creating even more severe imbalances. I think this Maslow stuff sounds pretty naive, if you try to make it into a system. There is a lot of good in it, but it is incomplete, in my opinion.
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posted April 05, 2009 03:20 PM
Wow! They deleted those? Why? That's crazy.Yes, I completely agree with what you are saying and had similar thoughts while listening to the videos. I've tried explaining it to people who don't want to get it either. Always to one's Maslow would deem 'self-actualized'.  His system is incomplete, I agree.
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posted April 05, 2009 03:27 PM
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posted April 07, 2009 02:55 AM
HSC  Well-said! You make perfect sense! One of the most important things for bipolars is destigmatization. The psychiatric professionals are still rigorously promoting awareness for the public- we need to be educated on manic-depression/bipolar disorder, and mental illness in general. If we were left uneducated, many tragedies that could have been prevented would instead happen all the time, and that is not something any of us would like to see. D IP: Logged |
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posted April 07, 2009 06:07 AM
Youre a very strong and wise soul, D. I'm so glad you come here and share your thoughts with us.  IP: Logged |
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posted April 08, 2009 02:50 AM
You're welcome, D.Thank you.  IP: Logged |
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posted April 10, 2009 11:13 PM
Thank YOU! HSC!  How could LindaLand ever do without you? You're the inspiration! D IP: Logged |
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posted April 11, 2009 12:02 AM
I assume that staying in a loving relationship can also help mental patients a great deal. I guess that would make a world of difference to the conditions of manic-depressives, or patients with other psychiatric disorders.D IP: Logged |
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posted April 13, 2009 03:43 AM
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posted April 13, 2009 11:43 AM
Thanks for sharing D. It's nice to know have found a healthy and healing relationship. Hopefully someday soon I will find someone who I fit with for the long haul. Someone stable and understanding. But first I need to get out more because i doubt he will arrive on my doorstep. How did you and your significant other meet?IP: Logged |
D for Defiant Knowflake Posts: 588 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2009 01:30 AM
Indeed- try not to stay at home all the time, or wandering in the cyberspace all day, every day; go outside, visit the great outdoors, participate in activities that involve interacting with other people, probably as groups- all these are good opportunities for anyone to meet new people, and maybe, just maybe- you happen to meet your future significant other through one of these group activities. That was how my partner and I met- IF this piece of information is of any relevance at all  But that is far from all it is. For one thing- not only for bipolars, but for all of us human beings- sufficien sleep every night, and sleep only during the night, between at the earliest 9PM, at the latest 12AM midnight, and by the time of the sunrise the following morning, is essential. D IP: Logged |
KiddOfTheMoon Knowflake Posts: 36 From: United States Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 29, 2009 05:25 AM
i "have" this. bp that is.IP: Logged |
KiddOfTheMoon Knowflake Posts: 36 From: United States Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 30, 2009 03:00 AM
i can't stress what the recent poster said about sleep. i'm currently back home and going thru a staying-up all nite and sleeping in the day routine. NOT RECOMMENEDED for those with bp. or anybody with some sort of depressive illness/mood disorder.IP: Logged |
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posted May 11, 2009 02:27 AM
KOTM,I hope you will eventually get the sleep you badly need. All the best. D IP: Logged |
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posted May 14, 2009 09:35 PM
I think we should be more compassionate, or at least, more tolerant, toward mental patients, instead of using their diagnoses against them- especially when it happens to be someone we know, and we may be having a fight with them, and we end up name-calling the mental patients with plenty of stigmatizing, steoreotypical, and dehumanizing words to describe a mentally imbalanced, or clinically insane person- I think that would be very low of us, if any of us did such a thing.D IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 259 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 14, 2009 10:22 PM
DfD  ------------------ Everyone is a teacher... Everyone is a student... Learning is eternal. }><}}(*> IP: Logged |
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posted May 18, 2009 01:36 AM
LEXX  I appreciate it. D IP: Logged |