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taurusvirgoleolady1974
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posted September 26, 2008 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message
my issue began june 2006 with a slight skin yeast infection. i was given a topical ointment which took care of the issue. I then began having the typical yeast infection which is still occuring. i went to another doctor who tested my blood and said it was bc i was borderline diabetic, but i have taken two more blood tests and that is no longer the case. also hiv negative and this last dr tested my thyroid, by my suggestion (HMM) and i assume it came back ok, but who knows, their not very competent. long story. anyway, the only time it stopped was when i lost my baby last fall and the whole time i bled, which was four months. soon after the yeast started again. i was taking otc products and they do not work. i was then given the one day dulflucan (?) which i took five of those! the pill may have worked for a day but the infection came back. i went to another doctor who gave me another prescription that is supposed to kill all 3 types of yeast. went away for a few days and came back. i have taken garlic pills, azo pills, going to try acidolphilus again. when i thought about it, i began chroic constipation in november '05. i also get red only at times under breasts and where i had a c section. scalp also itches sometimes, even after i wash my hair. i have a feeling this yeast is throughout my whole body. maybe due to intestinal issues. maybe that is why the meds work for a few days only, bc maybe i am getting the right treatment, but not curing the whole issue, not enough dosage. i have only had one yeast infection in my lifetime. this is really scary now , not to mention breaking my pockets. here is my chart: http://s354.photobucket.com/albums/r424/tauruslovelylady/?action=view¤t=sept2608.gif

what in the heck am i to do. im so sick of incompetency. any advice?

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posted September 27, 2008 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Yeast is a sign of a sluggish immune system. It could be any number of factors, but the majority of the time it's a zinc deficiency. That is not to say that zinc is a treatment for yeast or that it cures it--but if it's because of a deficiency, a zinc supplement will allow your own body's defensive to go on a feasting frenzy (a veritable yeast buffet), and you will see it go away very quickly. Try 50 MG of chelated zinc a day after your largest meal. I've see this work. It's so fast, it's almost miraculous. In a couple of days, you'll see improvement. Try it.

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posted September 27, 2008 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Randall is correct. I would also suggest douching with plain yogurt (it can be used for an enema too if yeast is in the bowel/rectal area) or using yogurt soaked tampons vaginally for a month at bedtime.
A clear Caladryl(it has zinc in it) lotion used under your breasts
and any skin folks with a fold of soft absorbent cloth at bedtime too. Clean underwear too...and a pad.
Wipe off areas with witch hazel first.
Eat plain yogurt too! A few tablespoons a day will do after it is under control.
Use white vinegar as a hair rinse. Leave on 5 minutes then rinse.
I am a type 2 diabetic. I used all those methods and have been mostly yeast free for about 30 years. If it seems to be coming back (rarely, usually after antibiotics or steroids) I hurry and do the process again.
Are you on the pill? That can cause flare ups in some folks.

Are you sure it it yeast?

Take a black washcloth or hand towel and wipe the suspected areas. If it is yeast it will leave a whitish film, and will smell of a powdered cheese..or if there is another underlying prob;em, it will smell spoiled.

Also allergies can mimic yeast infections.
And yes, if your yeast infection has become systemic you need to be tested for that, or given a longer treatment. If you take antibiotics, tell your doctor that you always get a yeast infection when taking antibiotics. He should prescribe meds for it such as Nilstat anytime once you have finished antibiotics.
Use bleach and wash your undies in hot water.
Rinse twice!
Use 1 cup vinegar to the rinse water.
Yeast is alkaline...so acidify your system. Tea with lemon, vitamin c from rose hips, dill pickles, pickled eggs, a good source of zinc and lutien for eyes. A tablespoon of cider vinegar will also help restore your PH.
As for the constipation, hot prune juice before bedtime works wonders! (Eight ounces is enough) Or six dried prunes. They have some flavored ones now. If you are not crazy about it add a bit of cranberry juice. I wish you the best of luck.

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posted September 27, 2008 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
SELSUN blue shampoo.
Don't know if you can get it where you are but order off internet.
Apply overnight and leave on skin.
Shampoo off in the morning.
Shower or bathe with it every night for a week.
Miracle cure.
Works after first application.
Not a suggestion..a cure...trust me.

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posted September 28, 2008 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Yep, yogurt works well for vaginal infections. But make sure it's the plain unsweetened kind with live cultures. Doesn't Selsun Blue contain zinc?

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posted September 28, 2008 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the suggestions. I will definitely try these. I went to doctor again yesterday and he almost 1/2 way listened, so he gets a big C-. anyway he goes to say that there is not a blood test for yeast and that the dulfican should have taken care of it whether it was vaginal or elsewhere. i dont agree and i told him maybe i am getting the right treatment but just not enough. who knows. i still think its something digestive, and vaginal yeast is just a symptom of something else. thanks guys, at least someone listens ,sorry i cant give you any $ its going to the greedy docs. a big thanks to you guys

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posted September 28, 2008 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Selsun Blue is SELENIUM SULFIDE
no zinc.

A few links of possible interest.
http://www.drugs.com/mtm/selsun-blue.html
http://www.healthsquare.com/drugs/55764.htm
http://www.drugstore.com/qxp14551_333181_sespider/selsun_blue/dandruff_shampoo_medicated_treatment.htm
Selsun Blue Dandruff Shampoo, Medicated Treatment rates 5 out of 5 stars, from 21 customer reviews.Worked great as a shower ...
by Pam[Verified Reviewer] in Rolling Meadows, IL on 1/21/08
Worked great as a shower gel for my dad's yeasty legs. He's diabetic and as a result has poor circulation/immunity in the lower extremities. He complained of dry itchy skin around his ankles which we both thought was just a winter itch, until I drove down to take a look at them and discovered the fungus among us. Took 2 weeks to improve, but he's been using it ever since as a preventative measure and no more yeast! Now if I can only get him to start a walking routine for better circulation.

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posted September 29, 2008 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
That's the stuff LEXX.

My son was being treated for eczema for years. At one point the skin was so bad that the pigment had disappeared from his stomach and he was so self conscious that on holiday he wouldn't take his shirt off.

Paid a lot of money for a private specialist and that was the diagnosis and the prescription.
Not eczema but yeast.
3 quid for a bottle of Selsun Blue.
One week later, no itching no scabs and pigment returned in 2 months.

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posted September 29, 2008 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Randall!
I think when you thought Selsun Blue has zinc in it...which it does not...
maybe you were thinking of "Heads and Shoulders" which has Zinc pyrithione in it.

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posted September 29, 2008 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message
Bunnies, where do you buy your Selsun Blue in the UK?

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posted September 29, 2008 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message
selsun blue does have zinc in it. i am going to try it today

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posted September 29, 2008 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message
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posted September 29, 2008 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
selsun blue does have zinc in it. i am going to try it today
Which Selsun Blue has zinc in it?
Both online info and the actual bottle in my bathroom list these ingredients but no zinc!

quote:
Active Ingredients: Per container: Selenium Sulfide Lotion (1%) (Antidandruff)

Inactive Ingredients: Aloe, Ammonium Laureth Sulfate, Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate, Citric Acid, Cocamide DEA, Ditallow Phthalic Acid Amide (hydrogenated), Dimethicone, DMDM Hydantoin, FD&C Blue 1, Fragrance, Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose, Water Purified, Sodium Citrate, Sodium Isostearoyl Lactylate, Titanium Dioxide



No Zinc pyrithione in regular SELSUN BLUE.

Zinc pyrithione is a coordination complex of zinc. This colourless solid is used as an antifungal and antibacterial agent.
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posted September 29, 2008 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
OK..found a version with zinc but it is not the regular Selsun Blue which has no zinc in it.
quote:
Selsun Salon Pyrithione Zinc Dandruff Shampoo
Volumizing - Fullness & Texture
Net Wt. 13 Fl Oz (384 ml)

DESCRIPTION

Ultimate Daily Care Dandruff Shampoo
Leaves Hair Healthy & Manageable, Clean, Fresh Scent
Volumizing for Added Fullness & Texture

USES

For relief of, and helps prevent recurrence of, flaking and itching associated with dandruff.

DIRECTION

* Wet hair thoroughly
* Massage into scalp
* Rinse
* Repeat if desired
* For best results use at least twice a week or as directed by a doctor

INGREDIENTS

Active Ingredients: Pyrithione Zinc (1%) (Anti-dandruff)

Inactive Ingredients: Water, Ammonium Laureth Sulfate, Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate, Glycol Distearate, Cocamide MEA, Cetyl Alcohol, Fragrance, Hydroxypropyltrimonium Hydrolyzed Soy Protein, PEG 3 Dioleoylamidoethylmonium Methosulfate, Hydrolyzed Algae Extract, Rosmarinus Officinalis Leaf Extract (Rosemary), Lavandula Angustifolia Extract (Lavender), Panthenol, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Tocopheryl Acetate, Sodium Lauryl Glucose Carboxylate, Lauryl Glucoside, Glycerin, Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Propylene Glycol, Benzyl Alcohol, DMDM Hydantoin, Sodium Chloride, Citric Acid, FD&C Blue 1 (245-064)



Zinc pyrithione is a coordination complex of zinc. This colourless solid is used as an antifungal and antibacterial agent.
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posted September 29, 2008 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Here in America it can be found in most bigger grocery stores and virtually any pharmacy.
Like CVS, Rite Aid, Walgreens, Drug Mart, WallMart, KMart, and so forth.
Does the UK have any of these?

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posted September 29, 2008 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
i have chronic yeast infections that typical drugs wont cure. Doctor hasn't helped at all. I think mine started at the beginning of perimenopause. I use boric acid suppositories i make myself. They can be used as a preventative also, not just when you have the full blown flare up. Boric acid powder can be found in a drugstore. Ask pharmacy where it is. I also buy empty gelatin capsules and fill them with powder and insert vaginally. They dissolve and you get a watery discharge. Look up boric acid suppositories and you will find more data. It works. ALso a galic clove inserted vaginally will work also. If you search you will find info. good luck, its a yucky problem.

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posted September 29, 2008 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Boots the chemist dear wheels!

But be careful when you use it. That blue stuff gets everywhere. I have several blue stains on my newly painted bathroom walls....and they don't come off.

But a small price to pay.

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posted September 29, 2008 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for robyn.c     Edit/Delete Message
sounds horrible. just had a quick nose in Dr.Alis nutrition bible, he says avoid bread, pizzas, beers, yeast extracts, soy sauce, canned products. he also says avoid acidic foods that supress bile production (and so encourage yeast growth) even contraceptive pills and HRT reduce bile secretion and allow yeast growth. he also says that you may be brewing alcohol in your gut (sandwich+smoothie=fermenting gut) i also remember reading that defrosted bread has a rush of yeast growth (like spring!) i think the general message is, eat fresh. bread bad.

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posted September 29, 2008 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, Lexx,that is the kind I have, Selsun Salonl. And an FYI, i went next door to the dollar store and found generic brand for 2.00! (vs. 6.00 for selsun) but I just kept the selsun blue, didnt feel like returning and all that. anyway, i left it on about 25 min and well have to see if it works.

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posted September 29, 2008 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message
I really think mine is systemic, so i am going to see about taking nyastin. looks like i have the symptoms. just taking things a day at a time. BOric acid? Garlic? WOW! We as women have to put up with a lot of crap, dont we. Doesnt it burn? When is the last time you had a yeast infection, thirteen?

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posted September 29, 2008 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Leave it overnight the first night. That's what the specialist told my son.

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posted September 29, 2008 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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We as women have to put up with a lot of crap, dont we
.LOL! Check this out!
http://www.mum.org/Lysol48.htm
http://www.mum.org/lysol1.htm

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posted September 30, 2008 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message
Ta muchly Bunnies!

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posted September 30, 2008 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message
Here's a link to the WebMD site on Yeast Infections and Skin Rash Treatment.

Also, are you sure that the vaginal symptoms you are experiencing are the same for a yeast infection and not bacterial vaginosis? Very often the two are confused so here are the symptoms:

Bacterial Vaginosis - Symptoms


  • An excessive grayish white vaginal discharge, unlike normal vaginal discharge (1 in 3 women with bacterial vaginosis describe the discharge as yellow).3

  • A bothersome "fishy" odor, which is usually worse after sex (intercourse).


Vaginal Yeast Infection - Symptoms


  • pain with urination
  • vulvar itching and irritation
  • pain with sexual intercourse
  • A white, curd-like discharge or watery discharge


I only mention this because they are commonly misdiagnosed and you may also have a skin yeast infection while actually having bacterial vaginosis. Another possibility is irritation and sensitivity to certain chemicals, which is an whole other story.

Vaginal yeast infections are treatable with Diflucan while bacterial vaginosis is treated with antibiotics; metronidazole (such as Flagyl, MetroGel), clindamycin (such as Cleocin, Clindesse), and tinidazole (Tindamax).

Strangely enough, a course of antibiotics may then lead to a vaginal yeast infection because it won't distinguish between good and bad bacteria.

My advice to you would be to have your doctor test you for bacterial vaginosis. If that is what is going, after the antibiotics, consider going back and being tested for a yeast infection (skin and possibly vaginal) and going over treatments for specifically skin yeast infections (as in the first link) as these symptoms have been consistent for you. As others have mentioned, plain yogurt is always a plus.

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posted September 30, 2008 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
No burning at all. Im treating one as we speak ( with boric acid).

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