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T
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posted May 01, 2009 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
It seems like there should be more than six pages in Health and Healing...

People like Gia and trillian used to start posts alot here and I dont see any by them.

Guess the LL restoration wasnt in full?

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T
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posted May 01, 2009 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
Looks like the old days (years) are gone in all the forums...

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juniperb
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posted May 01, 2009 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Heres one

trillian
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posted October 26, 2005 02:26 PM
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Like I keep saying, the pharamceutical industry is not benevolent...nor is the government industry. *sigh* http://www.mercola.com/2005/oct/25/avian_flu_epidemic_is_a_hoax.htm

Bird Flu Epidemic is a Hoax


A draft of the government's plan to combat a potential super-flu estimates a death toll of up to almost 2 million Americans. The plan is being rewritten to designate who will run the country during a possibly chaotic period that could follow a mutation of a bird flu in Asia.

The draft is based on the last century's three pandemics, and states that in the best-case scenario, about 200,000 people could die.

The government currently has enough of the anti-flu drug Tamiflu to treat 4.3 million people, and $100 million worth of bird flu vaccine is being manufactured. The draft indicates that tens of millions more doses of each would be necessary, far more than can be manufactured quickly.


USA Today October 8, 2005

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Dr. Mercola's Comment:


If you have been viewing the media you must have seen the scare the media and the president are seeking to orchestrate on you and the public. According to a draft of the government's plan to fight a potentially cataclysmic pandemic, this new bird super-flu could kill nearly 2 MILLION Americans.

But I nearly fell out of my seat in the airplane as I was flying back from a conference in Ft. Lauderdale when I read that in the BEST-case scenario, only 200,000 people might die.

Then they post the frightening picture from the 1918 flu epidemic to heighten the fear. It just amazes me how they can get away with this type of reporting that is so obviously manipulated by the government and drug companies to scare you into taking the flu vaccine.

The popular media continues to reinforce this unbased fear. In the editorial section of the October 17, 2005 issue of the Wall Street Journal, Dr. Henry Miller, former director of the Office of Biotechnology at the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), seeks to frighten the U.S. public by telling us that the bird flu virus can jump from birds to humans and produce, and is a fatal illness in 50 percent of those infected.

Ah, there's the rub.

A 50 percent fatality rate sounds pretty scary to me. What Dr. Miller and the other experts fail to explain is how these numbers were derived. Did they examine everyone who contracted the bird flu and use those numbers, or did they examine the sickest of the sick who had come down with the bird flu and determine the mortality rate from there?

Of course, it was the latter, and from the 60 people who have died from this in THIRD-world countries we are being told that anywhere from 200,000, AT BEST, to 2 million people at worst will die from the bird flu.

This is shoddy science at best and beyond belief that any reputable scientist could get away with such nonsense.

Daily Show Parody

Fortunately, contemporary comedians can see right through this nonsense. Here are the links to Jon Stewart's scathing and brilliant Daily Show piece on bird flu. But I have to warn you that it may cause you to hurt yourself from laughing so hard, especially the World Health expert comments on the bird flu killing 150 million people and even funnier comment of George Bush on bird-to-people transmission.

Quicktime Link (106 MB) MP3 Link (6.7 MB)

What Happened to Common Sense?

The bird flu epidemic hoax reminds me just how uncommon "common sense" is. Folks, where is the sound basic science here? How do they make the giant leap of faith that 60 deaths will translate to 2 million or even 200,00 deaths in the United States from a virus that does NOT readily spread from birds to humans, or humans to humans?

Most of the people who acquired this infection were bird handlers who were in continuous contact with these sick birds. Does anyone in their right mind envision similar circumstances in the United States?

Research like this would typically be thrown in the trash if it did not strongly support some ulterior purpose.

What might the purpose of these scare tactics be you ask?

Well how about the United States purchasing huge quantities of antiviral drugs and an increase in flu vaccine production, along with purchasing 20 million doses of the highly questionably effective Tamiflu. Guess how much one treatment of Tamiflu costs? Give yourself a slap on the back if you guessed $100.

So those 20 million doses the government has authorized will cost U.S. taxpayers $2 BILLION.

If you haven't yet read the lead story about Donald Rumsfeld in this issue. please do as you will where a significant portion of those funds are being directed to.

Now I think very few of us would mind if this drug actually worked and prevented even a few people from dying. But does it do that? Not really. About all anyone can expect from this drug is that it might make the symptoms a bit less severe. On the downside, (aside from setting you back $100) Dr. Tenpenny explained in her Flu TeleClinic last week that Tamiflu can actually cause the virus to mutate into a more dangerous and potent viral strain.

Recently, U.S. Congress asked Roche, the maker of Tamiflu, to suspend its patent and have others make it because they could not likely keep up with the demand, but of course Roche refused saying Tamiflu is hard to make and it would take another company three years to "get up to speed."

What they were really saying is they could care less about the public. What their primary focus was on was to not share their windfall profits mandated by the U.S. Congress.

Worthless Flu Shots

Of course, let us not forget the flu shots that many will get when they confuse bird flu with the regular flu. Please understand, even if you believe the flu shots work, the flu shot you can now purchase is in no way, shape or form designed to protect you against the bird flu. They are completely different strains. (Bird flu is H5N1 strain).

But rest assured the makers of flu vaccines will not lose this unusal opportunity to rape the American public for even more profits. Recently we learned that those getting the flu shots may see a 25 percent increase in prices at clinics, doctors' offices and medical centers because of increases in the wholesale cost of the vaccines.

History Repeats Itself

Investigative journalist Ida Honorof for decades published a consumer newsletter and broadcast a regular radio program. Honorof received a first prize award from Associated Press for investigative journalism. The Los Angeles Times and other publications credited her with breaking some of the biggest horror stories of our time.

Ida Honorof wrote, "The most brazen, obscene electioneering ploy" ever and added that it was proposed by the President "and his coterie of scientific hacks, fabricated to cause pure unadulterated panic and guarantee political capital, rammed through without consideration of people's health and lives and approved by a band-wagon Congress" eager to make the nation's "health" a bipartisan concern.

The above quote was not written about the bird flu epidemic but the 5 million swine-flu vaccine program of 30 years ago. The hastily contrived program for swine flu resulted in hundreds of Guillain Barre Syndrome paralysis victims as well as countless deaths for a flu pandemic that never materialized.

The pocketbook purloining proposed by the Senate is more than 3,000 percent greater than that of 30 years ago! Has your paycheck increased 3,000 percent in the last 30 years?

Practical Options

First step for anyone caught up in this bird flu hype nonsense is to take a deep breath and relax and realize the truth here. Unless you are a full-time bird handler in a third-world country who has a seriously challenged immune system you probably have a much better chance of wining the lottery than dying from the proposed bird flu epidemic.

Review the simple lifestyle measures I outlined earlier this year that will serve to boost your immune system to not only address any form of the flu but also other infectious illness like the cold. When you have a healthy lifestyle and follow basic steps of the Total Health Program, for the most part you just don't get sick.

This is the routine surprised comment that most patients tell me after they have been on the program. The Total Health Program works for me, most of my patients and can work for you. Just give it a try and let's stop enriching the drug companies for toxic alternatives that don't solve the problem.

For more information about the bird flu you can obtain the Flu TeleClinic I did last week with Dr. Tenpenny.

What You Can Do

Meanwhile, the "Biodefense and Pandemic Vaccine and Drug Development Act of 2005" (S. 1873), recently passed out of the U.S. Senate HELP Committee one day after it was introduced. The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) is calling the bill "a drug company stockholder's dream and a consumer's worst nightmare." This bill, spurred by bird flu fears, will broadly eliminate corporate liability for vaccines and drugs. This bill will soon go to the full Senate for a vote.

After reading the information below, please write to your own Senator and your own member of Congress in protest of this bill. Pass this alert to your family, friends, and other organizations you are involved with, and go to the NVIC website to take action right now.

The proposed legislation, nicknamed "Bioshield Two," is being pushed rapidly through Congress without time for voters to make their voices heard by their elected representatives. It will strip Americans of the right to a trial by jury if they are harmed by a drug or vaccine that they are forced by government to take, whenever federal health officials declare a public health emergency.

The bill establishes the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Agency (BARDA), as the single point of authority within the government for research and development of drugs and vaccines in response to bioterrorism and natural disease outbreaks. BARDA will operate in secret, exempt from the Freedom of Information Act and the Federal Advisory Committee Act, insuring that no evidence of injuries or deaths caused by drugs and vaccines labeled as "countermeasures" will become public.

This proposed legislation is an unconstitutional attempt by some in Congress to give a taxpayer-funded handout to pharmaceutical companies for drugs and vaccines the government can force all citizens to use, while absolving everyone connected from any responsibility for injuries and deaths which occur.

For more information on this, go to www.NVIC.org.


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The less I seek my source for some definitive, the closer I am to fine. -Indigo Girls

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trillian
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posted October 26, 2005 02:54 PM
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By the way, I don't mean for this article to be your only information on bird flu. Rather, it would best be used to help balance all the information swirling about right now.


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The less I seek my source for some definitive, the closer I am to fine. -Indigo Girls

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TINK
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posted October 26, 2005 08:21 PM
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"What might the purpose of these scare tactics be you ask?"
Now that's a scary question. I stand in frightened awe watching them slowly lay the foundation, slowly build up the arsenal, slowly position the chessman.


I think I'm going to be sick ... ahem


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SunChild
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posted October 27, 2005 04:40 AM
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Thanks for the info.
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No object is mysterious. The mystery is your eye.
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Devilfish
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posted October 27, 2005 09:52 AM
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GREAT article , i love Dr. Mercola info.
i read about the beef industry on his site(he followed the life of a cow) not too long ago and was blown away! no wonder i became allergic to it.

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ribbons of color
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posted October 27, 2005 09:57 AM
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thanks for the info.
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thirteen
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posted October 27, 2005 10:58 AM
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Great Info, thanks. It helps me.
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Philbird
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posted October 27, 2005 03:12 PM
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Poor birdies.
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Philbird
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posted October 27, 2005 03:51 PM
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Trillian
Is there any way you could post the Daily Show parody? I can't seem to access it?
Thanks!
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Johnny
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posted October 27, 2005 05:18 PM
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Yeah, great article, Trillian. I still think that the vaccine is full of mind-control drugs that the Illuminati is trying to pump into the public, but hey. Anyway, thanks for an interesting read.
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Philbird
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posted October 27, 2005 06:18 PM
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Wouldn't it be easier if the birds just poopied on us?
OK, I got the download...Cute.

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Loggerhead
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posted October 30, 2005 12:20 AM
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The politics of fear.... Fear is a way to control the people, and that's all there is in this case. In my humble opinion, this is a ploy to distract us from what's going on in Iraq. Bush has screwed up on all fronts, overseas and at home, and he wants to get at least this bird flu thing right. Except there is no bird flu thing.

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

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Randall
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posted May 01, 2009 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe you slid to an alternate Uni-verse briefly. Looks fine to me.

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"Fortune favors the bold." Erasmus

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T
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posted May 01, 2009 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
Randall. Pages of threads are missing. They only go back to ones with a last post made in May 2008. At least on my end.

Thanks Juni. I just found and bumped another by way of google!

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juniperb
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posted May 01, 2009 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
yep Randall,as good anexplaination as any !

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

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Randall
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posted May 01, 2009 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Here is the earliest Post in this Forum:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000149.html

That's 2002. We started in 2000, but I was pruning back then to conserve disk space.

Not sure why you're not seeing them.

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"Fortune favors the bold." Erasmus

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posted May 02, 2009 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
No HERE, is the earliest post in this forum:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/002092.html

That's the earliest one I can see over here, on the last page: 6.

Weird, huh?

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Randall
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posted May 02, 2009 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
That's crazy! Maybe your cache is full and it stopped downloading at 2008?

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posted May 02, 2009 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, I thought of that too. Will figure it out.

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Randall
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posted May 02, 2009 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I'm just glad we didn't lose all of that info. I think I've got the slowness worked out. Just have to restore those two Forums.

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