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posted February 06, 2012 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most folks have known a paranoid person.
However after a certain point,
paranoia can indicate a serious mental/emotional disorder.
I personally know of several folks, a few of them I love,
who are thusly afflicted.
This is a very hard thing to deal with,
and to diagnose.
And sadly, the biggest problem in helping such folks is getting them to recognize they have a serious problem and need professional help.[i]

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Paranoid personality disorder

Paranoid personality disorder is a mental disorder characterized by paranoia and a pervasive, long-standing suspiciousness and generalized mistrust of others. Individuals with this personality disorder may be hypersensitive, easily feel slighted, and habitually relate to the world by vigilant scanning of the environment for clues or suggestions that may validate their fears or biases.
Paranoid individuals are eager observers. They think they are in danger and look for signs and threats of that danger, potentially not appreciating other evidence.

They tend to be guarded and suspicious and have quite constricted emotional lives. Their reduced capacity for meaningful emotional involvement and the general pattern of isolated withdrawal often lend a quality of schizoid isolation to their life experience.

People with this particular disorder may or may not have a tendency to bear grudges, suspiciousness, tendency to interpret others actions as hostile, persistent tendency to self-reference,
[i]or a tenacious sense of personal right.

Causes

A genetic contribution to paranoid traits and a possible genetic link between this personality disorder and schizophrenia exist.
Psychosocial theories implicate projection of negative internal feelings and parental modeling.

Diagnosis
WHO

The World Health Organization's ICD-10 lists paranoid personality disorder as (F60.0) Paranoid personality disorder.[5]

It is characterized by at least three of the following:

excessive sensitivity to setbacks and rebuffs;
tendency to bear grudges persistently, i.e. refusal to forgive insults and injuries or slights;
suspiciousness and a pervasive tendency to distort experience by misconstruing the neutral or friendly actions of others as hostile or contemptuous;
a combative and tenacious sense of personal rights out of keeping with the actual situation;
recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding sexual fidelity of spouse or sexual partner;
tendency to experience excessive self-importance, manifest in a persistent self-referential attitude;
preoccupation with unsubstantiated "conspiratorial" explanations of events both immediate to the patient and in the world at large.

Includes:

expansive paranoid, fanatic, querulant and sensitive paranoid personality (disorder)

Excludes:

delusional disorder
schizophrenia

It is a requirement of ICD-10 that a diagnosis of any specific personality disorder also satisfies a set of general personality disorder criteria. It is also pointed out that for different cultures it may be necessary to develop specific sets of criteria with regard to social norms, rules and obligations.

APA

The American Psychiatric Association's DSM-IV-TR has similar criteria. They require in general the presence of lasting distrust and suspicion of others, interpreting their motives as malevolent, from an early adult age, occurring in a range of situations. 4 of 7 specific issues must be present, which include different types of suspicions or doubt (such as of being exploited, or that remarks have a subtle threatening meaning), in some cases regarding others in general
or specifically friends or partners,
and in some cases referring to a response of holding grudges or reacting angrily.

Other

Various researchers and clinicians may propose varieties and subsets or dimensions of personality related to the official diagnoses. Psychologist Theodore Millon has proposed five subtypes of paranoid personality:

fanatic paranoid - including narcissistic features
malignant paranoid - including sadistic features
obdurate paranoid - including compulsive features
querulous paranoid - including negativistic (e.g. discontentment) features
insular paranoid - including avoidant features

Differential diagnosis

Paranoid Personality Disorder can involve, in response to stress, very brief psychotic episodes (lasting minutes to hours). If long-lasting the disorder may develop into delusional disorder or schizophrenia. Individuals may also be at greater than average risk of experiencing major depressive disorder, agoraphobia, obsessive-compulsive disorder or alcohol and substance-related disorders.
Criteria for other personality disorder diagnoses are commonly also met, such as:

schizoid personality disorder
schizotypal personality disorder
narcissistic personality disorder
avoidant personality disorder
borderline personality disorder

Treatment

Because of reduced levels of trust, there can be challenges in treating paranoid personality disorder.
However, psychotherapy, antidepressants, antipsychotics and anti-anxiety medications can play a role when an individual is receptive to intervention.

Epidemiology

Paranoid personality disorder occurs in about 0.5%-2.5% of the general population.
It is seen in 2%-10% of psychiatric outpatients.

It occurs more commonly in males.

A large long-term Norwegian twin study found paranoid personality disorder to be modestly heritable and to share a portion of its genetic and environmental risk factors with schizoid and schizotypal personality disorder.


Please see this link for more links to specific types of Paranoid Personality Disorder and symptoms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_personality_disorder

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Paranoid personality disorder
Personality disorder - paranoid

Paranoid personality disorder is a psychiatric condition in which a person has a long-term distrust and suspicion of others,
but does not have a full-blown psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia.
Causes, incidence, and risk factors

The causes of paranoid personality disorder are unknown.
The disorder appears to be more common in families with psychotic disorders such as schizophrenia and delusional disorder,
which suggests genes may be involved. However, environmental factors may play a role, as well.

The condition appears to be more common in men.

Symptoms

People with paranoid personality disorder are highly suspicious of other people. As a result, people with this condition severely limit their social lives.

They often feel that they are in danger, and look for evidence to support their suspicions.

People with this disorder have trouble seeing that their distrustfulness is out of proportion to their environment.

Common symptoms include:

Concern that other people have hidden motives

Expectation that they will be exploited by others

Inability to work together with others

Social isolation

Detachment

Hostility

Signs and tests

Like other personality disorders, paranoid personality disorder is diagnosed based on a psychological evaluation and the history and severity of the symptoms.

Treatment

Treatment is difficult because people with this condition are often very suspicious of doctors.
If treatment is accepted, talk therapy and medications can often be effective.
Expectations (prognosis)

The outlook usually depends on whether the person is willing to accept help.

Therapy and medications can reduce paranoia and limit its impact on the person's daily functioning.

Complications

Extreme social isolation

Interference with work

Calling your health care provider

If suspicions are interfering with your relationships or work, contact a health care provider or mental health professional.


U.S. National Library of Medicine - The World's Largest Medical Library http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001934/

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posted February 06, 2012 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dated one...unfortunately, didnt find out till I was involved, then I opted out, however, just a year after husband killed himself, was so vulnerable.

The red flags were everywhere!

These folks are often not diagnosed cause friends, peers, etc, jokingly call them "paranoid" not knowing they have hit the nail on the head.

Yes, can go into a full-blown pyschosis, if not "diagnosed" quickly!

Good post Lexx!

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posted February 06, 2012 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hippichick:
I dated one...unfortunately, didn't find out till I was involved, then I opted out, however, just a year after husband killed himself, was so vulnerable.

The red flags were everywhere!

These folks are often not diagnosed cause friends, peers, etc, jokingly call them "paranoid" not knowing they have hit the nail on the head.

Yes, can go into a full-blown psychosis, if not "diagnosed" quickly!

Good post Lexx!


hippichick
Thank you.
Yes, they often come across as just quirky
and or eccentric.
Also the highly intelligent, genius Intelligence Quotient or higher,
are often so interesting we can and do miss
the red flags.
And sadly yes,
it often eventually does become full fledged deep psychosis that may not be reversible.

So how can we reach into such folks and help them get the help they need?
The ones I know are some of the most sweet, interesting, intelligent people.
But they are drowning in their paranoia and do not realize it and do not know why eventually folks become weirded out by them, even angry at them for their over the top paranoia.

So again,
how do we help such often otherwise sweet folks?

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posted February 07, 2012 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sister is paranoid but only when it comes to dating and men....for other stuff she chooses to ignore evidence and live in a bubble. She has moon in scorpio and mercury square pluto and 7th cusp in pisces and neptune retrograde.

Like my husband and I warned her that the real state crash was going to happen and went into detail and advice her not to buy an apartment yet but she kept telling herself the economy will improve and went ahead and bought herself an apartment. Luckily she has managed to keep afloat thanks to her savings but has been tight for a while now and she never was before. During this time she decided to quit her IBM secure steady job which paid well too and go into real state.

Since her paranoid is not general as she has friends and an active social life and is not suspicious of her friends or family, is just with men, I would be reluctant to diagnose her once I finish my masters this year with this condition. She is functional and is only this way in one area of her life.

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posted February 07, 2012 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I take flower essences which is the aura or energy field of flowers for the purpose of correcting negative patterns in a person's energy field. I find that this has helped me over the years grow in different areas but you have to take it for a while not just two weeks and follow up with it bc as you get rid of certain fears or issues, new ones will pop up like a onion.

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posted February 07, 2012 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amelia28:

Like my husband and I warned her that the real state crash was going to happen and went into detail and advice her not to buy an apartment yet but she kept telling herself the economy will improve and went ahead and bought herself an apartment. Luckily she has managed to keep afloat thanks to her savings but has been tight for a while now and she never was before. During this time she decided to quit her IBM secure steady job which paid well too and go into real state.

With all due respect, Amelia, the above is not a "symptom" of a paranoid personality.
Your sister is entitled to her opinions about the economy and as an adult she is responsible for her actions. Many people take risks or make mistakes or disregard opinions of their families; that does not make them paranoid.


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posted February 07, 2012 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this topic is very delicate.
Most people has no idea that the difference between a person with a personality disorder and a "normal" person is a very fine line.
Diagnosis is never 100% and precision is HARD to achieve. You have to be an extreme case for psychiatrists to consider your "quirks" as "disorder".

Plus all this talk about conformity... and what is "normal"... as a Uranian (Aqua Asc with Mars there trining my Uranus in the 8th and aspecting almost everything in my chart) honestly I hate this kind of thinking about humans.

My field is related to disorders. One of the classes I took at bachelors level was about the label "crazy" and how normal "normal" people are. So, I would think we need to tread lightly with such topics. There is a lot of misinformation out there and anyone with a naivite or lack of education who may be reading here could easily get the wrong idea.

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posted February 07, 2012 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amelia28:
I take flower essences which is the aura or energy field of flowers for the purpose of correcting negative patterns in a person's energy field. I find that this has helped me over the years grow in different areas but you have to take it for a while not just two weeks and follow up with it bc as you get rid of certain fears or issues, new ones will pop up like a onion.

Are you referring to the Bach flower essences?
I used to take them too (they had a particular one for stress that I found very helpful).
But I don't see the link to paranoid personality. Are you saying that their helped you or someone with paranoid personality?

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posted February 08, 2012 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anongrl10:
I think this topic is very delicate.
Most people has no idea that the difference between a person with a personality disorder and a "normal" person is a very fine line.
Diagnosis is never 100% and precision is HARD to achieve. You have to be an extreme case for psychiatrists to consider your "quirks" as "disorder".

Plus all this talk about conformity... and what is "normal"... as a Uranian (Aqua Asc with Mars there trining my Uranus in the 8th and aspecting almost everything in my chart) honestly I hate this kind of thinking about humans.

My field is related to disorders. One of the classes I took at bachelors level was about the label "crazy" and how normal "normal" people are. So, I would think we need to tread lightly with such topics. There is a lot of misinformation out there and anyone with a naivite or lack of education who may be reading here could easily get the wrong idea.


I completely agree......I am very reluctant to label people with personality disorders as I feel diagnosing this is delicate and takes time.

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posted February 08, 2012 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anongrl10:
Are you referring to the Bach flower essences?
I used to take them too (they had a particular one for stress that I found very helpful).
But I don't see the link to paranoid personality. Are you saying that their helped you or someone with paranoid personality?

I have been taking flower essences since I was a teenager but not for paranoia but for many things for example: I use to be stuck living in the past and took flower essences for this and it helped tremendously.

Bach is just one of many vendors of flower essences and is actually not one of my favorites. I am really liking right now inner child essences...only for sale in europe.

Here is the link for description of them: http://www.powernatureessences.com/innerchildessences.htm

Is the aura of flowers and plants which can be used by humans to correct negative patterns in their own energy field. If you believe in the relationship between body/mind/spirit to health then this is a good option for you.

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posted February 08, 2012 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another vendor I like a lot is in south africa:
http://safloweressences.co.za/emotions_index.html

Tell me what you think of this link

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posted February 08, 2012 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lexx, Fig essence is good for paranoia among other things:
http://safloweressences.co.za/Fig_Essence.html

This is an essence which works with clearing the past. Archetypically the fig is connected with fear, shame and sexuality. Thus this essence is a powerful treatment for shame, fear and the resultant lack of confidence, as well as paranoia. It has the ability to assist in locating emotions hidden in the subconscious, often originating in the collective unconscious, bringing them into consciousness. Sexual fears affecting the ability to conceive and fears relating to parenthood are particularly effectively treated by this essence. Fear blocks creativity and, whether it is on a physical, emotional or spiritual level, the release of fear clears the path for the expression of the creative force, which is mankind's inherent birthright. It is beneficial to use this essence in preparation for conception and pregnancy.

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posted February 08, 2012 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amelia28:
I have been taking flower essences since I was a teenager but not for paranoia but for many things for example: I use to be stuck living in the past and took flower essences for this and it helped tremendously.

Bach is just one of many vendors of flower essences and is actually not one of my favorites. I am really liking right now inner child essences...only for sale in europe.

Here is the link for description of them: http://www.powernatureessences.com/innerchildessences.htm

Is the aura of flowers and plants which can be used by humans to correct negative patterns in their own energy field. If you believe in the relationship between body/mind/spirit to health then this is a good option for you.


I know. I have studied homeopathy and love flower essences for many reasons, including their effects on me when I took them.
I just didn't know why you brought them up in this thread.
Do you think they can help with paranoid disorder?
My guess is they could help but I really don't think they can "cure" a personality disorder on their own. The "cure" has to be synergistic (i.e. body, mind AND soul have to cooperate and be helped).

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posted February 10, 2012 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anongrl10:
I think this topic is very delicate.
Most people has no idea that the difference between a person with a personality disorder and a "normal" person is a very fine line.
Diagnosis is never 100% and precision is HARD to achieve. You have to be an extreme case for psychiatrists to consider your "quirks" as "disorder".

Plus all this talk about conformity... and what is "normal"... as a Uranian (Aqua Asc with Mars there trining my Uranus in the 8th and aspecting almost everything in my chart) honestly I hate this kind of thinking about humans.

My field is related to disorders. One of the classes I took at bachelors level was about the label "crazy" and how normal "normal" people are. So, I would think we need to tread lightly with such topics. There is a lot of misinformation out there and anyone with a naivite or lack of education who may be reading here could easily get the wrong idea.


I could not agree with you more! As an ICU RN, at my little ghetto hospital, we get lots of od's and patients with "psych" issues. I, being a Pisces sun am always very empathetic with these folks (not to mention my late husband took his own life so I have a bit of an advantage when dealing with patients with psych issues,) and, like yourself, a heck of alot of Aqua/Uranian natally influenced, so I do ponder IF it is us that are "crazy" or them, or neither and this is just their path they have chosen for this life.

I find the study of the "mind" VERY fascinating and am pondering trying a stint in psych nursing. I have never thought of people with a "diagnosed" DSM disorder to be any differnt than any of us, they just they.

Lexx, in answer to your original question, if one thinks somebody is overly paraniod, all we can do is support them and help them work through their issues. For example, like applying rational thought, in stages, to the issue the individual is paranoid about.

I can be a bit paranoid myself, and really have to talk myself down sometimes..lol!

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posted February 10, 2012 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anongrl10:
I know. I have studied homeopathy and love flower essences for many reasons, including their effects on me when I took them.
I just didn't know why you brought them up in this thread.
Do you think they can help with paranoid disorder?
My guess is they could help but I really don't think they can "cure" a personality disorder on their own. The "cure" has to be synergistic (i.e. body, mind AND soul have to cooperate and be helped).

I agree...personality disorders are usually not curable base on all the reading I have done on it so far but it can't hurt to take some flower essences is how I see, it can only help so why not give it a shot .

That is so cool you are into flower essences too .

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so I do ponder IF it is us that are "crazy" or them, or neither and this is just their path they have chosen for this life.

This is something I wonder a lot myself. I feel they have chosen this life to learn something and that perhaps they are not crazy and their is something to their insanity or some truth to it although there is clearly imbalances as well but I feel they are this way for a reason that has to do with karma and them needing to balance something perhaps. It still needs to be treated bc they need to be able to function but I don't look down on them and see them as equals. I see them as humans who have issues like me JUST IN DIFFERENT AREAS, areas that are perhaps less understood and socially acceptable at this point unfortunately but with research and time this will change as well.

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posted February 11, 2012 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sweet Peas?

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posted February 11, 2012 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall, yes.

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Originally posted by amelia28:

That is so cool you are into flower essences too .

I got into it thanks to an ex bf who was into everything herbal along with Chinese medicine and homeopathy. Hard not to look into flower essences when you see them working on you!

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It's a grey area. Whatever LEXX decides is fine.

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posted February 12, 2012 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
It's a grey area. Whatever LEXX decides is fine.


Thank you Randall.
I need to however point out
that I DO NOT HAVE
this particular disorder
but several folks I know did(deceased now)
or still do, and were PROFESSIONALLY diagnosed.
And I posted this tread/topic because
I suspect a couple others in my life do suffer from this,
and I am worried very much about them.

As to flower essences,
I avoid such due to the base, oh yes,
is alcohol, and seems to be brandy to me.
Also due to some flowers which are toxic for me personally.
I am very allergic to certain flowers.
Been in the ER too many times because of severe life threatening anaphylaxis from exposure to them.
Just because they are safe and good for some does not mean they are good for all folks.
Its like the damn natural fabrics recommended to ward off allergic problems and all.
LOL!
I AM ALLERGIC TO COTTON!
Oh yay, cotton is in so many things including feminine products,
and it has been hell finding non cotton, non silk products.

Never assume natural or flower products are automatically good for all people.


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Lexx, in the case of Flower Essences, NOT all essences are based in alcohol!! That is a common misunderstanding of the essences .

Glycerin is a non alcohol substitute and for quick use essences, apple cider vinegar is used.

I have been a Flower Essence Practitioner for 20 years and have never had a soul be allergic to an essence. And yes, they had flower allergies too, It is the flowers essence not the pollen, dust and such

http://www.bachflower.com/Rescue_Remedy.htm

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posted February 12, 2012 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks all for the replies.
Not sure how it ended up being about flower essences.
I wanted to know how to reach such folks and help them.
I highly doubt flower essences would be a way to do that,
as first they would have to want help.
As to no pollen etc.,
I react to fabrics that are natural, yet they of course do not have pollen.
Like lotions with Chamomile will cause hives.
Same for tea.
I do have a Homeopathic person and she uses the rescue remedies for animals mostly.
LOL!
Maybe I am an alien since I react to so many Terran things.
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Lexx,

I truly believe that my ex/daughter's father suffers from this disorder. He has an "everyone is against me" attitude, and sees "threats" everywhere. On top of this, he has a hard time accepting any type of responsibility for his actions, and beleives he's being constantly targeted and it's everyone elses fault but his.

Psychologically speaking, I think his mother abandoning him in his adolesence and being raised by his hard-a$$ father may be partly to blame for his psyche. I don't really believe in excuses, I think we are all accountable for our actions and reactions, but I accept that emotional damages inflicted on us do present us with our personality "challenges".

I'm not sure if it's a fear of rejection/aboandoment that causes his extreme paranoia, or the 10+ years of habitual marajuana usage, but he makes it very hard to be in his life. I feel on edge and as if I am walking on eggshells so as not to upset his delicate emotions. It's really hard, I feel like I can't do anything right, and I end up being paranoid and manipulated in return.

I wish I could help him, I've tried for years, but he needs to accept that he has a problem and want help for anything to change for him.

I have watched so many people be driven from him life due to his paranoia and suspicions. I fear he may end up a hermit from human contact besides our daughter, and that's a bit frightening.

Although, it could all be an act for attention, another trait he displays all the time.

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posted February 13, 2012 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ghanima81
Sad that your ex/daughter's father,
may suffer from this.
Based on my personal connections/experiences with folks afflicted so,
and actually diagnosed as being so afflicted;
Your descriptions do indeed bear signs of possible PPD or the initial stage which can last years, and may or may not become full fledged psychosis.
Oh yes, the following you said rings sadly true.
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Originally posted by ghanima81:
he makes it very hard to be in his life. I feel on edge and as if I am walking on eggshells so as not to upset his delicate emotions. It's really hard, I feel like I can't do anything right, and I end up being paranoid and manipulated in return.
That in MY experience seems to be just one type of acting in the initial stage of PPD.
I am not a professional diagnostician,
but I am quite aware of what I have personally observed.
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Originally posted by ghanima81:
I wish I could help him, I've tried for years, but he needs to accept that he has a problem and want help for anything to change for him.
Same here. I so want to help, but how?
I have tried and tried.
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Originally posted by ghanima81:
I have watched so many people be driven from him life due to his paranoia and suspicions. I fear he may end up a hermit from human contact besides our daughter, and that's a bit frightening.
Sadly yes that could lead to ignoring even your daughter.
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Originally posted by ghanima81:
Although, it could all be an act for attention, another trait he displays all the time.
Initially it can seem so and be so, but with the other paranoid factors in the mix, it is far more than mere attention seeking.
Folks I have and personally know with PPD, or that I suspect are afflicted by it;
started out appearing to want attention.
Most were/are, highly intelligent,
well above the genius IQ of 135,
being often as high as betwixt 160 and 200.
Physics professor, Mathematician, Technology expert, Doctors, and the list goes on.
I worry now mostly about the folks in their 20s or so,
because by time they hit their 30s it may be too late to rescue them.
They become in time like Howard Hughs,
in a way,
locking themselves away in dark rooms,
avoid the sun, have food delivered,
are surrounded by empty food tins etc.,
or junk, like one guy,
who has some 40 broken computers, and newspapers from past 10 years or so stacked high all over.
And he and and 2 other fellows, thousands of
books, so many, that each where they holed up,
could not get into other rooms for years or more again.
Some become obsessed with their paranoia,
like the character in the movie,
"A Beautiful Mind"
a true story.
Often highly creative, talented, and wonderfully imaginative along with having genius IQs.
But they become "lost".


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