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amelia28
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posted March 31, 2012 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the number of children in the United States with autism has risen by 78 percent over the past decade. It is now estimated that 1 out of every 88 children in the United States has some form of autism disorder. Our schools are absolutely packed with “special needs” children and millions of parents are desperately trying to figure out why so many kids are having such severe developmental problems. Strangely, most autistic children start out perfectly normal. Most of them develop just fine for the first year or two and then something dramatic happens. So what could that possibly be? Well, there is a secret that you are not supposed to know. That secret is that vaccines are one of the primary causes of autism. As the number of vaccines being administered to our children has risen, so has the percentage of our children with autism. Today, in some areas of the United States more than 30 vaccinesare being given to young children before the age of 3. When you inject so much mercury and so much other toxic material directly into the bloodstreams of vulnerable young children, bad stuff is bound to happen. The evidence linking vaccines and autism continues to mount, and yet the pharmaceutical establishment continues to vigorously deny that there could possibly be any link between the two."

For rest of article:http://www.pakalert press.co m/2012/03/30/vaccines-and-autism-the-secret-that-you-are-not-supposed-to-know/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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posted March 31, 2012 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted April 04, 2012 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to say this as politely and civilly as I can.

It has been disproven over and over that vaccines are NOT the cause for autism.

If they were, how do you explain people who get vaccinated as babies and who do NOT have autism?

Also, as someone who as Asperger's, I can tell you that children are not diagnosed with autism right away not because they don't have it from the beginning, but because it takes awhile to show up and for a diagnostician to be sure. It can't be detected in utero, either. It can first be detected at 1 1/2 - 2 years old. People blame vaccinations when they are not the cause: it's just that it doesn't show up clearly until then, when the child has developmental delays. An autistic can pass for normal until he/she does not meet normal schedules for these things. You can't tell immediately just by looking right away.

On top of that, how are the statistics measured? If people with Asperger's are lumped in with the autistics, this might skew things. We are NOT the same as them, and are radically different. We're thrown in together because it's convenient (we're on the same spectrum), but trust me, you would know the difference between an autistic and a person with Asperger's immediately. The developmental differences are that pronounced. The only real gray area is between high-functioning autistics and us, but, even then, it becomes clear pretty quickly. So, although we should be put in a separate category, we are not always given that distinction, so if someone says that the rate of autism spectrum disorders is increasing, or says that autism is increasing and does not separate us from autistics, this is misleading. We are NOT the same.

I think that people want to understand why this horrible phenomenon keeps happening and want answers so badly. Any answer that seems plausible really hits people's emotions. I think that people who offer an easy explanation or cure for ANY illness--be it cancer, autism, AIDS, diabetes, or anything else--are manipulating people and playing on their feelings. Diseases are complicated, can change forms, etc. People want answers and we do not have them. I think that it's very, very, very dangerous to trust in unsound and unproven theories, not just for health reasons, but emotionally, too.

I don't believe exclusively in holistic medicine or in normal kinds, for what it's worth. I don't think that it's as simple as alternative = good, regular = bad. The answer is probably somewhere in between: a lot of holistic remedies are probably ineffective or dangerous or both, and a lot of normal medicines have nasty side effects and are pushed by drug companies for profit. And in between there are probably effective or at least better medicines that have yet to be discovered or understood completely.

There could be many other possible reasons for autism, too. One currently being researched is environmental damage. It isn't certain yet, and it may not be it, but it's something being investigated. There could be multiple causes as well, not just one. Some have also theorized that it starts in utero. So, there are other possibilities being explored.

Not getting your kids vaccinated puts them at risk for diseases. Frankly, I'm not going to say much more on my opinion of not getting your kid vaccinated, as I don't wish to offend and anger certain people here, but I very strongly do not support that choice.

In addition, not vaccinating will keep them out of a lot of things. In the US, to my understanding, most schools will not allow non-vaccinated children to attend. If you've ever read up on meningitis, you know how horrible it is, and I feel thankful that I got vaccinated for that one.

Maybe some people are very, very rarely allergic or sensitive to vaccines, but those people are few and far between compared to those who don't have those problems. Now, in those RARE cases, I can understand not getting vaccinated, but those people are not the majority. So, I think that talking to a doctor well-trained in vaccinations and well-versed in how they work first rather than just acting out of fear or what one has heard is a good option.

Lastly, I just want to say that I do not intend this post to be disrespectful or hateful, but I am just finally saying something about what I think, and hope that I've done so in a respectful and civil way.

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posted April 04, 2012 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, Platero. Cool post!

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posted April 04, 2012 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You stated that very respectfully, Platero. Each state has either a philosophical, religious, or medical exemption for vaccines (or two or all three). So, they can't keep children out of school who are not vaccinated. If a school official says otherwise, they are lying. You can also opt out of vaccines in military service (if you object in writing before enlisting). And Americans can travel internationally without vaccines (but you might have to show them the law).

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posted April 04, 2012 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe that those vaccines produce all sorts of problems of which autism is most likely one. I have tried to fight this fight but have given up. The medical industry has brain washed too many people imo.

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posted April 05, 2012 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some vaccines contain aborted fetal tissue, which also brings a religious objection to the discussion.

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posted April 05, 2012 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How many parents have to say it, before it becomes a "real fact"? Their child was fine, their child had a bad reaction to vaccines, often screaming all night long for days, and then they developed autism?

To brush this off as "unscientific" reflects conditioning more than research and critical thinking.

Not meaning to offend you, Platero. I just think the other side of the story warrants a closer look. And I have done a lot of research on this topic.

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posted April 09, 2012 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted April 11, 2012 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted April 11, 2012 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Think Twice Global Vaccine Institute

http://www.thinktwice.com/

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posted June 09, 2012 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For everyone who in spite of all the journal articles that are peer reviewed that show that vaccines cause autism still belief this isn't true, all I have to say is OK.

Why OK? bc you can do whatever you want with your body. I am presenting this information for people that question the establishment. For people that understand that alopathic medicine is in bed with bigpharma and the government and that is about profit, keeping people dum, weak and population control as the cabal is very concern with population growth since it has been the highest it has ever been. But is not just about population control bc they also want to keep the masses dum so they are easy to control is about a master slave world.

The first paragraph of chapter 1 of book titled "politics in healing":

"Politics and healing might be thought of as a contradiction in terms. Surely there can't be politics in cancer and healing; surely when breakthroughs are made, the medical profession puts them to use. That's the way it is, isn't it? It would be nice if it were that simple."

I strongly suggest that before you put down a theory that has been established by many scientists bc is not mainstream you do a very very thorough research on it before rejecting it and that is all I am going to say.

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posted June 09, 2012 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(NaturalNews) Most United States citizens would opt out of getting vaccines if they understood that natural foods, vitamins, herbs and supplements build up the immune system enough to fight off almost any disease known to mankind. For 70 plus years, the pharmaceutical industry (Big Pharma) has succeeded at its malicious money-making schemes, despite a well-documented history full of horrific lessons.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/036062_vaccines_Nazi_medical_experiments.html#ixzz1xHJ2rCXe

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posted June 09, 2012 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thimerosal the preservative used in many vaccines has about 40% content of mercury and mercury is toxic and people have different thresholds for this toxicity.

There are articles that say that child vaccines now don't have thimerosal as a response to evidence linking autism to vaccines yet autism continues to be exponentially on the rise. First case of autism was reported after the first vaccines with thimerosal were injected but yet if you look at ingredients most vaccines have it and some vaccines have it and are not listed in the ingredients but if you test the vaccine you will find it has mercury. Most adults vaccines have thimerosal.

Also a lot of vaccines have fetal cells and aluminum and aluminum has been linked with Alzheimer disease and is not good for you.
http://www.vaccinationnews.com/20110314ThimerosalContainingVaccines-I-InTheDarkYazbakFE

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posted June 09, 2012 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I was little people were expected to get under 10 vaccines during their early childhood and now is 50 vaccines. The more vaccines required in frequency and dosage as it has happened over the time the rise of autism has grown as well as vaccination requirement and dosage has increased over time since thimerosal vaccines in the 1930s came out.

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