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RegardesPlatero
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posted September 24, 2012 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For products that are supposedly "bad": what about how much/how often you use them?

I was thinking about this today. With drinking, for example, or eating unhealthy food: generally speaking, doing that once in awhile won't kill you, unless you REALLY go and binge to an extreme level. So, what about makeup? If you use mascara, say, once or twice a week for a few hours, would that be different than using it everyday? And the same with foundation and other makeup? And what about mousse? How much do you actually have to use, and how often, to be harmed?

I also found a few links, too, that say all of these scares are just scams. It's hard to honestly know who to believe.

On top of that, I honestly feel so annoyed that every two seconds, something else will kill you. That is, it seems like every day, I hear big scary alarm bells going off about what is harmful.

And, too, a lot of articles are pretty intense. Health magazine drives me crazy; reading their articles makes me feel anxious, scared, freaked out, and really on-edge. Their philosophy is pretty much "everything will kill you or give you cancer/health problems". Their tone is generally meant to do that. If you read that magazine, you basically come away from it afraid of everything in your home--or at least I do. And they're probably tame compared to what I haven't read.

And, too, if everything is just going to get you anyway, what point is there in trying to be healthy if you're screwed no matter what? If makeup won't kill you, food will. If food doesn't, household items will. UGH.

I also don't know how much of it is hype and how much of it is true. Food, for example: it seems like some foods have been "bad for you" and "good for you" at different times. How does one make sense of it all?

All of this stuff is so aggravating for me and leaves me with tons of anxiety at times. At other times, I just feel really annoyed.

Thoughts? Opinions?

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hippichick
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posted September 24, 2012 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Regards!

The liver is an amazing organ...it is one strong organ, it filters out most of the toxins we injest, the kidneys also filter and our expelled breath to a much lesser degree.

There was a big hype not too long ago about the alcohol based hand sanitizers and were banned from a particular elementary school...reason: liver toxicity.

(which was dumb, I think)

Our environments are injested into our bodies without any help of us. The air we breathe, the things we touch, etc.

Then there are those we can mind, our foods, what we choose to clean with, scent with, etc.

Most of all of these will get filtered out by the liver.

Now, the liver is a highly personalized organ. We inherit alot of our liver's ability to detoxify, but there are things we can do to help.

If I were you, I would not be so concerned with how often, how much, etc, but taking care of your liver and body in general so your dense matter body is at it's best to rid itself of whatever toxins come its way.

Here is an example for you:

When the liver cant function anymore, it becomes hard it is called cirrhosis, we all know this. It is usually from too much alcohol. However there are folks who drink their entire lives and have a darn healthy liver, there are folks that drink small amounts and end up with cirrhosis.

The determing factor?

The liver and it's general health.

I say keep the body in a general state of good health, all things in moderation and let our wonderfully functioning machines, we currently reside in, called the human body handle the rest!

blessins!

t~

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RegardesPlatero
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posted September 24, 2012 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, to keep the liver healthy, you basically don't drink a lot of alcohol? And drink lots of water?

I don't drink a lot of booze. I used to drink more than I do now, but I go weeks, months at a time without anything.

I don't smoke (cigarettes or anything more...shall we say "herbal"); never have, never will, don't want to. I don't do other drugs, either.

I also don't use fad supplements/diets/food.

So, I should be OK?

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posted September 24, 2012 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly! The key to good health lies in the liver. Alcohol is one thing, but many prescription drugs can do a number on it as well.

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posted September 24, 2012 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regards, alcohol is just an example...

ALL things detox via the liver~

Just keep a healthy liver and a healthy body system and you have done all you can do!

Really...when push comes to shove we do all we can to be healthy, but there are certain things in our environment of which we cant control, unless we live in a bubble

Again, I say, just keep the human form, the body well and you will have done all you can do~

Research liver health, if you are really into it, and you can find out things that will help you to keep your liver optimally healthy so she can do her job for YOU!

t~~~

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posted September 25, 2012 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You, know, I once worked with a VERY intelligent male nurse.

HIS theory as to why some have issues with their liver and some dont was general health!

He said, and I have observed, that those who are in a general state of disrepair, where their bodies are concerned end up with cirrhosis and it is rare to see an otherwise healthy individual be stricken~

K, so I need to get up and go take my supplements! (lol!)

But really...ALOT of things play into this topic~

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posted September 25, 2012 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By the way, Regards, this is an excellent topic and I have questioned these things myself...

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posted September 25, 2012 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The liver has remarkable regeneration abilities, and you can boost this with milk thistle.

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posted September 26, 2012 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Smart nurse! That's why some can fight off Hep C fast and show no symptoms while it is debilitating for others.

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posted September 26, 2012 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the raw community, people are very much into detox and cleansing. A good detox starts with cleansing the colon. Some people swear by colon hydrotherapy.


Search this forum. There is a plethora of info on cleansing here.

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posted September 26, 2012 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Smart nurse! That's why some can fight off Hep C fast and show no symptoms while it is debilitating for others.


Yea, well like I said, it takes alot of dynamics to, for any dis-ease of the body, to strike one and not another.

I mean, in my field, the lands of a large city ICU, I do get what this nurse was saying. He comes from the Philippines where the culture is vastly different, so he came from a different perspective...and I do see alot of the damage from alcohol, in particular. But it is not the businessman who is a "functioning drunk" or the stylish hairdresser who goes home everynight and slams back several Crown's, but it is the culture from which people are either unable to take care of themselves or unwilling, usually do to their cultural upbringing.

My mother's cousin is a sparkling example...

He reitred from a particular midwest "Bell" as in the telephone, a while back, he is in his 70's and retired early. And he retired well! Houses in Florida, mansions in the Midwest...he is quite well off.

He drinks, probably to the tune of a pint of something,per day, prefers the clear ones like vodka and gin and always has since he and my mom were hanging out in their teens!

He goes to the doc and his liver enzymes are mildly elevated. hmmmmmm?

Our family on the maternal side, which this man is of, has some blood pressure problems, a stroke or two, my mother had breast cancer but I dont believe anyother cancers are in the maternal side...so bascially healthy stock.

He did not want for as a child, grew up healthy and strong.

These folks I see, drink the same or less than him and are dead by 50-60. They were never nourished properly, they often come from lower income families. Usually it is the Mexican populaton, but where I work, I get the white country folk as well.

Sorry to be so windy (sometimes my Aqua/Uranus side takes over)

As a clinician it is so interesting to me!

t~~~

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posted September 28, 2012 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Yin:
In the raw community, people are very much into detox and cleansing. A good detox starts with cleansing the colon. Some people swear by colon hydrotherapy.


Search this forum. There is a plethora of info on cleansing here.


I personally do not believe in detox, and many have said that doing extreme detoxes is very dangerous, especially without clinical supervision. It's popular right now, especially with celebrities, but personally I don't believe in fads or extremes and tend to be skeptical.

I tend to think that simple is best when it comes to a lot of food/health issues. Take as few meds as possible, eat foods that you recognize and that don't have a bunch of weirdo ingredients that you can't pronounce, eat foods that taste good but that aren't too high in bad things (fat, salt, sugar, calories, cholesterol), etc. But, at the same time, be flexible enough so that you aren't so limited and restricted that you can't enjoy life.

I don't think that it's realistic for people to be expected to eat things they hate or use products they can't stand and to live in a bubble. It's good to be sensible, but there are two extremes: eating unhealthily and being so extreme and strict that you can't enjoy life or function socially (e.g., not being able to go out to eat, not eating what people make at home, etc).

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posted September 28, 2012 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hippichick:
Yea, well like I said, it takes alot of dynamics to, for any dis-ease of the body, to strike one and not another.

I mean, in my field, the lands of a large city ICU, I do get what this nurse was saying. He comes from the Philippines where the culture is vastly different, so he came from a different perspective...and I do see alot of the damage from alcohol, in particular. But it is not the businessman who is a "functioning drunk" or the stylish hairdresser who goes home everynight and slams back several Crown's, but it is the culture from which people are either unable to take care of themselves or unwilling, usually do to their cultural upbringing.

My mother's cousin is a sparkling example...

He reitred from a particular midwest "Bell" as in the telephone, a while back, he is in his 70's and retired early. And he retired well! Houses in Florida, mansions in the Midwest...he is quite well off.

He drinks, probably to the tune of a pint of something,per day, prefers the clear ones like vodka and gin and always has since he and my mom were hanging out in their teens!

He goes to the doc and his liver enzymes are mildly elevated. hmmmmmm?

Our family on the maternal side, which this man is of, has some blood pressure problems, a stroke or two, my mother had breast cancer but I dont believe anyother cancers are in the maternal side...so bascially healthy stock.

He did not want for as a child, grew up healthy and strong.

These folks I see, drink the same or less than him and are dead by 50-60. They were never nourished properly, they often come from lower income families. Usually it is the Mexican populaton, but where I work, I get the white country folk as well.

Sorry to be so windy (sometimes my Aqua/Uranus side takes over)

As a clinician it is so interesting to me!

t~~~


It's interesting what you say about my mother's cousin.

My grandfather and his brother were close in age and were "full blood" siblings (as in, same mother and same father, not half-siblings). They had similar lifestyles--smoking, drinking, eating comfort food, etc. My grandfather died about 20+ years sooner than his brother and had health issues, whereas my great-uncle did whatever he wanted until he died simply from old age.

Weird.

My mother's family: she and her siblings don't have serious health issues, except one of her siblings, who has a lot of them. No one else has the issues that this sibling has--and yes, they are all full-blood relatives.

The other thing that complicates things for me is that it's very difficult to tell what is genetic and what isn't. I don't know if my grandparents who had health problems had them because of genes or lifestyle, because the problems that three of them had matched up with their lifestyles. The other had cancer, and I honestly don't know if that one's lifestyle influenced it or not. On the flip side, I don't know if the people who are doing well are because of genes or lifestyle--many do have healthy lifestyles out of the ones who look good and don't have problems. It's so frustrating to not know.

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posted September 28, 2012 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
edit; post wasn't showing up--realized that I had edited and not posted a new one

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