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Topic: Heart problem or Anxiety?
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virgolotus Knowflake Posts: 1071 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 16, 2013 11:01 PM
I've been feeling horrible. My heart feels like it's forcing itself and I hear weird swooshing sounds coming from my chest sometimes. I had a murmur when I was a baby but it went away... I've also been feeling like when my heart get all racy I feel dizzy, shortness of breathe, and lightheaded. I also get really pale. It scares me to death. I can't stop thinking about it... I searched the symptoms and they mostly say it's anxiety. I had really bad anxiety but it doesn't really feel the same. This is more like chest pain and stuff. I stopped my prescription xanax because I just don't want to deal with any kinds of drugs anymore. I'm going to request an ECG from my doctor next week. I can't stand it anymore And being a Virgo I just can't stop worrying! Are there any natural remedies for anxiety y'all know of? Things that I could find at a grocery store (Wal-Mart etc)...Thanks xo IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 208 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 17, 2013 08:11 AM
Seeking professional help/checking with a doctor is a good idea, especially when chest pain is involved.Natural treatment for anxiety that I found effective (my symptoms were mild, only fast heartbeats, sweating palms and mild breathlessness) -sprinkle a mix of ylang ylang-lavender essential oil on my bed. The fragrant helps to relax my mind. Or you can find an aromatherapist. - drinking chamomile tea. I take a vitamin, there’s this Blackmores Executive B Stress Formula Tablets. I don’t know if it is available in your country though. Good luck. Hope this can be of some help =)
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hippichick Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 17, 2013 08:52 AM
Could be xanax withdrawls, but get your self to a doc...asap! IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 2136 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 17, 2013 09:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by hippichick: Could be xanax withdrawls, but get your self to a doc...asap!
Yes please get checked! Seriously, if you can, go to the Emergency Room if this does not seem to be letting up. Also cold turkey stopping meds can be very dangerous. Please see a doctor soon. Keep us updated too please.
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virgolotus Knowflake Posts: 1071 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 17, 2013 11:23 PM
@12muddy- armoatherapist as in an actual therapist specialized in aromas? :0 I read that B vitamins are good but when I take them my head feels really weird and rushed.. As for teas I drink valerian tea and it does help to an extent but not all that much.. hippichick- yeah I had a feeling it might be.. though when I would do it recreationally the withdrawals were more like depression/anxiety I made an appointment with a counselor as well since the one they recommended is kind of nuts. When I saw him long ago he diagnosed me with adhd and being bipolar for being a homosexual. Lexi- Yeah, I will Quitting cold turkey is pretty bad.. I should know -_- Hopefully they are just withdrawals and nothing else.. I prefer that Thanks,guys xo
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T Knowflake Posts: 9040 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 18, 2013 01:45 AM
Yeah, i'd go to the hospital and get checked out. Especially if you have been on anti-anxiety meds like xanax (extremely addictive, worse than street drugs imo)I've read horror stories of people trying to get off of those kinds of meds and that's why I won't take them. I was prescribed Xanax for anxiety (by a doc) and supposedly should be on an anti-depressant, but I won't do it - i won't take them. I was given a prescript for them when I was having a nervous breakdown after my dad died, but i dumped them down the toilet instead. I didnt even swallow one of them. Pills scare me. I'd rather self medicate once in awhile. Once youve been on them for years, it can be just as hard as heroin to get off of and they do a lot of damage to your body. I don't care that a doc says it's okay. Do some research and you will see why it's best to stay away from them and find alternative ways to cope. Don't quit hardcore drugs like that cold turkey. Touch base with your doc. It's probably not anything serious, but don't play around with cold turky-ing from those drugs. IP: Logged |
virgolotus Knowflake Posts: 1071 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 18, 2013 02:12 AM
I used to take xanax as a recreational drug.. I had a coke problem so that's why I decided to stop taking them since I know I have an addictive personality. But if I need them then that's another story... I guess :\IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 9040 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 18, 2013 02:58 AM
I notice especially with younger kids, the pills like xanax (xannie bars) are used more recreationally these days and regarded like gold. They don't even know what they are getting sucked into or addicted to. I feel like they are being duped and are suckers if the start taking them recreationally. That's exactly what powers that be want. They know how powerful these drugs are.Anyway, yeah, if it's perscriibed to you then it's supposedly okay. I don't agree with that. Won't go into why here. Many docs are worse than street drug dealers. I won't ever be under someone's thumb or take something that's going to make me zone out all zombie like. I'd rather go to a shaman, drink a few beers or explore other remedies that might help me truly heal and not just put a blanket over my issues. Sure, we all need help sometiems and a couple of drinks or a joint can help, but I'd rather not take the risk of getting addicted to pills like that and fall into a complete haze and not honestly look at what might actually be going on.. that's the easy way out to me. Next thing you know, youre robbing pharmacies to get them. If your heart is doing freaky things, I'd see a doc. That's all there is to it. & especially if you know you have an addictive personality.....stay away from drugs like xanax and coke. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 9040 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 18, 2013 03:32 AM
I remember when I told my brother I dumped my xanax prescription. He almost had a heart attack. He was like, WTF did you do that for???? He and his friends wouldve loved to have eaten them like candy. F that **** . He said I couldve made a lot of money off of them too. I'm all set with becoming a drug dealer, nevermind possibly getting other people hooked on that crap, I told him. Yeah, it was at that point that I became the super uncool sister. I dumped the "gold" down the toilet. (where it belongs) IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 9040 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 18, 2013 03:33 AM
sorry. didnt mean to derail the thread with a memory.IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 18, 2013 11:42 AM
virgolotusIn the meantime refrain from caffiene, any stimulants. If it is anxiety related and not a physical health problem, you need something to calm down your central nervous system. A nice glass of red wine or a benedryl may help. You could take a xanax to see if it quells your symptoms, if so, then there you have it. All benzos should be tapered down, they change your brain chemistry. But it is always possible you have something physical going on as well. I have PTSD which messed my my heart, and on meds to get things under control. So, I do have a physical ailment, that came from a brain thing. Anyway, if it gets worse get to the ER!!! good luck, blessings and keep us posted! IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 18, 2013 11:48 AM
A little off subject here but benzos can be a good thing, if taken appropriately.My new doc gave me a prescription for clonazapam, the weaker of the benzos, but lasts loner and also is a muscle relaxer. I have found my heaven. Been searching for peace in my life for the last 30 years atleast, and now I have it. She gave it to me for sleep, cause I never sleep, but I do now. She changed my antidepressant to effexor from lexapro and the combo has made me a new person. I dont like being on drugs, but with PTSD and my brain chemistry changed for ever and the assult it has put on my heart, I choose to do the meds. I am not really an addictive persoanlaity, per se, but I do like the buzz. I am being very careful with the benzo, just taking it on my work nights, when I NEED to sleep! I am still on quality supplements Shaklee, I love, they have a stress tab that is awesome, and for my sick liver their other supplements. Anyway, just my story, you are not alone with all you have mentioned.... again blessings! t~ IP: Logged |
virgolotus Knowflake Posts: 1071 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 19, 2013 04:09 PM
@T- I get where you're coming from.. but when I take xanax I don't feel like a zombie unless I overdose. Yesterday I just couldn't handle my anxiety anymore so I took 1mg and I felt completely NORMAL I felt good for the first time in months. It really sucks pills have to make me smile but I really don't know what else to do. My mom made an appointment with a psychiatrist behind my back and told me about it yesterday so I'm going to force myself to see her and try to open up...@hippichick- Yes I took a xanax to see if it could make my symptoms go away and it did! Completely. IP: Logged |
ghanima81 Moderator Posts: 1116 From: Maine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 20, 2013 12:30 PM
I had these symptoms and thankfully went to the ER and was found to have a hole in my heart. I had a murmur as a child which "went away". Not sure of your age, but I am 32 (the hole was discovered at 30) and back then, we didn't have fancy ultrasounds so my hole went undetected until after I had a child and 30 years of damage to my heart caused the right side to become greatly enlarged and I was exhausted all the time. I would be winded after climbing stairs. I would have palpitations that would cause me to nearly faint. My surgeon told me it was very common for this to appear in people this age since the technology wasn't so great when I was born, and it is something that you can live with until all that overwork starts to affect you. Thankfully, I never abused drugs. I would have had symptoms much earlier, I think. I underwent open heart surgery in September, 2011 to correct the problem. I have been fine since then. It's honestly like having a new life. I too, thought it was just anxiety. Not to scare you, but wanted to share another possiblility. IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 20, 2013 02:43 PM
Well then, it is probably xanax withdrawl...I would still get a check up and, IF you choose, wean yourself off, very, very slowly! t~ IP: Logged |
virgolotus Knowflake Posts: 1071 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 20, 2013 04:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by ghanima81: I had these symptoms and thankfully went to the ER and was found to have a hole in my heart. I had a murmur as a child which "went away". Not sure of your age, but I am 32 (the hole was discovered at 30) and back then, we didn't have fancy ultrasounds so my hole went undetected until after I had a child and 30 years of damage to my heart caused the right side to become greatly enlarged and I was exhausted all the time. I would be winded after climbing stairs. I would have palpitations that would cause me to nearly faint. My surgeon told me it was very common for this to appear in people this age since the technology wasn't so great when I was born, and it is something that you can live with until all that overwork starts to affect you. Thankfully, I never abused drugs. I would have had symptoms much earlier, I think. I underwent open heart surgery in September, 2011 to correct the problem. I have been fine since then. It's honestly like having a new life. I too, thought it was just anxiety. Not to scare you, but wanted to share another possiblility.
My hypochondria is kicking in... >.< I'm 20 years old and yes I'm going to see a doctor soon!!! IP: Logged |
ghanima81 Moderator Posts: 1116 From: Maine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 20, 2013 04:53 PM
Not trying to freak you out. I did not take my health seriously at all until this happened. I was young, in shape, ate well, etc. You say it was different than an anxiety attack. It's the lightheadedness and paleness that worries me. Hippi is WAY more the expert here than I am, it just sounds exactly like what I went through. I hope it's not, but know that if it is, they can fix it! It took a few tests before they found it. I had an EKG in the ER. It came back abnormal. They scheduled me for an echocardiogram, and in the meantime, I wore a Holter Monitor for 24 hours and had to record any flutters I felt in my heart. The echo was also abnormal. They then scheduled me for a transesophogeal echocardiogram, which is performed in the cath lab, and they put you under for this. That is when they really saw the size of the hole. From there, I was scheduled to meet a surgeon and discuss options. It was "do you want us to send you to a specialist in Boston to see if they can try to do a femoral clamp, which may not work, and will put you out of work for at least 6 weeks, or do you want to trust me and get the open heart surgery?" I went with option B. Thank goodness I did. The hole was really big, and the clamp would have failed. I have a huge scar on my chest now. They said I could have had them go through my ribs (thoracic incision) but the healing time and pain would have been greater. I ended up going with the sternal surgery. My sutures would not discintigrate, so I had a lot of issues with wound healing, which made my time out of work longer. But in the end, I am BETTER. This is something that only had to be fixed once. I am so glad I finally stopped being stubborn and went to the doctor. If your EKG is abnormal, MAKE SURE they follow up with further tests. IP: Logged |
virgolotus Knowflake Posts: 1071 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 20, 2013 08:57 PM
Why did you go to the ER for the EKG? Were you feeling bad?IP: Logged |
ghanima81 Moderator Posts: 1116 From: Maine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 21, 2013 11:50 AM
I had a second bout of strong palpitations, a "whooshing" in my chest, and I had a two year old. I was afraid of what could happen if I didn't get checked out. What if I had that happen when carrying her, or driving? It was intense and nearly caused me to pass out. I could hurt her, that was my most prominent thought. I don't have a PCP, so I had to go to the ER. I explained my symptoms, and they ordered an EKG. Very unlike me to actually go to a doctor, but I had to see if there was something wrong. I just wasn't feeling "right". IP: Logged |
virgolotus Knowflake Posts: 1071 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 21, 2013 07:31 PM
That's exactly how I feel.. I have my doctor's appt. in 2 weeks but I really want to go sooner... I feel the swooshing more often now, especially when I get upset or higher my voice. Dammit, I hope it can wait 2 weeks.IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 9040 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 21, 2013 08:32 PM
(((hugs )))You will be okay. Just get to the doctor. Don't do what I do and keep putting it off. IP: Logged |
virgolotus Knowflake Posts: 1071 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 22, 2013 01:00 AM
Thanks, T I just got back from my psychiatrist and I told him my story though I was reeaaaallllyyy hesitant since I don't trust shrinks. He totally figured my mind out pretty fast. I was surprised and kind of ****** lol. Anyways, he said I needed Lexapro since my drug history screwed up some receptors in my brain which is why I'm really paranoid and anxious all the time. I told him I didn't want them and I wasn't going to take them but he convinced me to try it out. He said I was developing agoraphobia.. which I think that's just a trend most psychs diagnose people with.. Idk. My paranoia/social anxiety is pretty bad sometimes though. He put me back on xanax and I took them and I feel way better. Tomorrow I'm going in for an ECG just to relief myself and to be sure I'm psychically healthy. I told my psychiatrist about my palpitations and how my heart felt and he claimed it was anxiety. He offered to take care of it by doing some ear acupuncture but I declined his offer from suspicions. Idk I don't trust him all that much. Thank you all for caring so much :*) It really means a lot~ IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 22, 2013 02:57 PM
I have played this game with myself for a long time...I dont want to have to rely on "head meds," however my brain chemistry has forever been altered by my late "husband" and his abuse, hence PTSD. I hope to get myself off my new meds, which are working very well for me now, Effexor (been on Lexapro for years) and Clonazapam for sleep and destress, a new one for me. Please be easy on yourself...we need help in all forms and fashions, as we re-build ourselves!!! ALL the blessings in the world!!! terri~ IP: Logged |
virgolotus Knowflake Posts: 1071 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 22, 2013 04:38 PM
^Thanks you so much, hippichick!I hope this Lexapro does cure me once and for all from all my mental issues. How did it work for you? And I'm so sorry to hear about your PTSD IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 2407 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 23, 2013 02:40 PM
Lexapro took the edge of my hormonal issues, was going through perimenopause at the time and it worked very well, for anxiety and depression.But my doc suggested Effexor which is a SNRI, seratonin-norepinepherine reuptake inhibitor and can make you feel really happy, due to the noreip. Been on it before and I gained alot of weight cause I couldnt sleep, but with the lightweight benzo, it seems to be a good mix for me. Lexapro, generally is a good drug, as with any head med you will have to monitor your situation and increase the dose as needed. t~ IP: Logged |