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posted April 04, 2013 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've often wondered if we have to put in the same amount of time seeing through a better perspective as we did spending time in the negative. If we tallied it all up....which end would we end up on?

Maybe only after balancing out the lifetime, or years of negative thinking with more positive or neutral, can the scales begin to start to balance out. Everything on this plane takes time.....although time can do funny things when we get into a trancendental state...

It's easy to focus on what is lacking, especially when that's what we've been taught since birth, but nothing changes if nothing really changes....

It can be especially hard to kick yourself in your own ass and wake up and make necessary changes. I don't think it usuaslly happens in one lifetime for most people. Some things become too embedded.

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posted April 06, 2013 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never been good at talking about this dear topic. I've always upset different people along the way, then can't undo what I've said.

However, I am reading and enjoying all your thoughts and I am loving your posts T & Shura.

This is a sensitive and delicate topic and it's hard not to sound judgey when one muses on it because it is all-inclusive.

I can see it from all angles though, I know perception is reality and I choose my perceptions.

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posted April 06, 2013 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said!

Yes, I think anyone who has studied and practiced in depth and taken good hard honest looks has somewhat struggled with the concept and gone back and forth with it all, or sought to find better explanations at one point or another. Which is a good thing - for one to work it out in their own mind in a way that best suits them and their life.

I can't say it works or doesnt work because I think it's a bit of both. and varies with person to person and from time to time in their life (depending on what is going on).

The color of the glasses you choose put on, will in turn give the rest of your world that hue.

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posted April 06, 2013 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
Like when folks say they would kill themselves if they were in my shoes.
How sad for them.
They do not understand that I am most likely happier than they are even when they are young, healthy, and even wealthy or at least not in poverty.
They say they do not want to get old.
They worry excessively about youth and beauty and acquisitions.
They do not seem able to enjoy the simple pleasures of life, the subtleties under it all from leaf to sky to it all.
My thoughts are just fine concerning reality.


Indeed, it's sad.

...but then, there are also times like this: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/001160-2.html - which could make one doubt - what you stated above. So, you see - how your thoughts can reach to others and portray a image of life experienced at old age, which can be close to a real life horror movie - for one who's young, healthy and... restless.

And yes, i know that was - a desperate moment when you could grasp only on the negative side of life... and i can also understand your reasons - to crave for life, like - those simple happy moments as you put it and maybe someone - to share them with. As Alexandre Dumas put it:

"There is neither happiness nor misery in the world; there is only the comparison of one state to another, nothing more. He who has felt the deepest grief is best able to experience supreme happiness. We must have felt what it is to die, that we may appreciate the enjoyments of life."

...but, physical youth does not reflect the age of ones soul, nor those it show the wounds one caries in his heart, in his mind - even though on the exterior, the body may appear to be healthily.

Maybe some worry about youth, beauty and acquisitions - but that's just one perspective on youth, same as yours is just one perspective on old age - both derived from a certain life experience (or experiences). Here's another perspective... you're young, still in your 20's and by following your path trough life - you get in a position that makes you feel so out of place... as if you're not needed by anyone in this world. A feeling - that seems more plausible for one who's in his 90's, for one who has no family and maybe even a sole survivor among his acquaintances... and yet, it can happen even at a very young age. For one who bares that saddens, for one who deals with that state of loneliness - while being aware of his youth - another 40+ years may seem like a real life nightmare.

So yeah - thoughts can mold reality and not just yours... but not in a "magical way (Godlike way)"... but in a "dabble with fate kinda of way" - where life keeps changing and you're always presented with new ways to mold your life. There's also a scientific way which might seem like magic to primitive minds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufVjdvRw4LM - and that's the power of "belief/faith" ...but we tend to forget "how that works" - what it means to "truly believe in something and make it happened".

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posted April 06, 2013 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good points 7th.

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posted April 06, 2013 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 07, 2013 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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People have been where both of you have been and worse.

Without doubt

I consider myself an uncommonly fortunate person. I mentioned a personal issue because I was struck by the seemingly odd coincidence. Neither that issue, nor any another I have experienced, qualifies me for membership in a special club. Coincidences I enjoy and will happily discuss; playing the "my pain trumps your pain" game I will not do.

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posted April 07, 2013 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This is a sensitive and delicate topic and it's hard not to sound judgey when one muses on it because it is all-inclusive.

Agreed. It's a touchy discussion at best. Too easy to step on already sore toes.

All I will add is that it is my conviction that another soul's pain should be respected. Always. I'm trying to reach that state where trials are accepted with open arms as the divine gifts I believe they are, but it is easier said than done, isn't it? I still have unproductive emotional reactions. I still sometimes shake my fist at the heavens in anger and grief. How can I ask more of my neighbor than I can claim for myself?


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posted April 07, 2013 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Coincidences I enjoy and will happily discuss; playing the "my pain trumps your pain" game I will not do.

I realized you were more making a connection than anything.

Yes, that game I find rather annoying and won't and don't play it either.

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i thought it best to delete my posts for a number of reasons. I've believe I have made enough points for one thread already.

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posted April 08, 2013 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:

I did not like being judged and told by ego driven know it all types
that I deserve my woes and hardships;


ORBM is anything but an ego driven know it all. By making that comment, you are being judgemental.
He asked you a question and you blew it out of proportion.
It is a sensitive topic and we should look at all angles.

I wasn't going to say anything as ORBM very RESPECTFULLY bowed out but since I'm fond of you both I can't help but voice how disappointing it is to witness how sour that went.

Lexx, I mean no offence but lately you have been taking comments very personally. I hope that whatever is causing these types of reactions from you pass soon.

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posted April 09, 2013 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To no one in particular;
and if the shoe fits, wear it.
Otherwise I am just ranting a moment.
Then will leave you all to your judgements and assessments of why some folks have bad or good fortune in your opinions.
It seems it best I do not care any more
what people think about me.
People will think what they think.
This is not a new sensitivity issue.
This issue has cropped up since I came here in 2005.
The moment a couple people posted my ills at LL;
things I told them in private;
several people have taken to, in one way or another;
to tell me I deserve my woes,
that I am spiritually not evolved,
and that I ask for my woes.
People here may have missed those old threads.
So when such comes up,
of course it irks me.
I do not ask for the bad things.
I do not deserve them.

I have Chicken Pox on top of my other woes.
Yeah sure, I thought this into my reality.
Bullshite!

I was feeling optimistic, hoping for a better day,
when out of the blue;
I awaken in utter agony, with spots and bleeding from every mucous membrane and my other woes on high alert.
That probably makes a few folks deliriously happy.
Glad most are not cold hearted people.
Just disgusted with being told I deserve and brought these awful things into my reality.
I am tired of trying to convince people that sometimes things for good or ill are simply luck of the draw.
Carry on;
blame me, whatever.

I will avoid these topics from hereon.

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posted April 09, 2013 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charmainec:
ORBM is anything but an ego driven know it all. By making that comment, you are being judgemental.
He asked you a question and you blew it out of proportion.
It is a sensitive topic and we should look at all angles.

I wasn't going to say anything as ORBM very RESPECTFULLY bowed out but since I'm fond of you both I can't help but voice how disappointing it is to witness how sour that went.

Lexx, I mean no offence but lately you have been taking comments very personally. I hope that whatever is causing these types of reactions from you pass soon.



Replying to that and then will avoid these types of threads from hereon.
charmainec you do not have all the facts nor the history.
And with all the crap happening in my life of course the concept and judgements of thought makes reality and I deserve my woes;
is going to make me angry.
And I have been no more sensitive than usual.
Just finally speaking out.
Carry on.
I will not get involved with these topics from hereon.
All I can say is;
to folks who think thoughts make reality;
"pray you are never hit out of the blue with ills and misfortunes that take you by such surprise, and that you know damn well you never asked for or thought into your reality, and
then yippie;
have folks tell you
that it is all your own faults"

Carry on.
I am done here.

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posted April 09, 2013 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not talking about anything else in the past, but in relation to the pox, have you considered that it could have been brought on by your affirmations to be healthy? It is a major detox through the skin. Once through it, you will definitely be much healthier. I would view it as a positive event, culminating in a healthier state--even though it is quite uncomfortable in the meantime. Just my take.

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posted April 09, 2013 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall
Yes, it is possible.
However that is a totally willing type of exercise and not the
"maybe your thoughts are incorrect/negative"
type thinking.
THAT is the thing I detest having thrown at me or being accused of.
I would have died or given up decades ago if my thoughts were "incorrect/negative".
If folks were paying attention they would know that I am very optimistic and count my blessings too, despite my woes.
If anyone wants I will post links to my positive thinking threads.
There are people who have told me I should kill myself because they see my life as a nightmare.
(oddly quite a few from here/LindaLand)
I have and still do treasure mapping.
I have healed from many things in my life to date,(corneal scars, blocked arteries, pre-cancers, and more) and as new things hit me;
I do my best to work at healing as it comes.

So yes, the pox may well be part of healing, and may cure the Psoriasis and nerve damage.
I keep open to that.

It sure feels horrible though and gross and I look like a diseased monster at the moment.
I will get past this new scourge.

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posted April 09, 2013 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This topic has bothered me for sometime.I’ve read that some people have even managed to change their physical appearance by using LOA but I’ve also read that some people have started behaving abnormally.I do think our thoughts can be very powerful.Focusing too much on negative things in my life made things even more worse in the past.I have managed to control outcomes of events just by focusing all my will power on them but I’ve also paid for them later,law of karma I guess.There are lot of universal laws.I think the possibility of creating reality depends upon all of them rather than just LOA but having the belief that you can create your reality with your thoughts definitely helps in turning your life around.

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posted April 09, 2013 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 10, 2013 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Charms you are so cute...no worries. Like Lexx says we indeed go way back on subjects like this, and always we have agreed that it takes many facets cut on the face of a diamond to make it shine and so it is.

I wanted to share this because I find it interesting that science is also starting to prove things many of us have and have not agreed on...hoping that it would strengthen some to continue with there positive thought process as science joins us in our pursuit of knowledge, and our self work is not in vain.

I look at it this way...What are you really? But a grand body of electromagnetic energy. That electromagnetic energy is given forth not only from our cellular structure but also from our emotional body. Our e-motion is the power of Self that we came to experience and master.
E-motion is extraordinary, containing more power than all of the atomic energy upon our plane. Our thoughts also go out in measurable electromagnetic waves into the Universe.. Those thoughts are attached to the electro-magnetic energy called E-motion and together this Energy forms in our Aura and the structure of our MerKaBa…Our beliefs and our ideas about reality, attached by the e-motions that these thoughts engender, bring forth to us that which is termed "like energy." So what you create in your life is a reflection of who you think you are because nothing exists in your life that is not simply a reflection to you.

Its easier to learn to work with the laws that govern this Universe than to pretend like they don't exist....

"Life will give you whatever experience is the most helpful for the evolution of your consciousness"
So I just say exercise your free will here and choose the highest experience possible and do the work in your life that goes along with those thoughts....eating right, exercising and learning to detach from lower level emotions are some of the work and its not easy work....anything worth it is never easy in this world...we will deal with pain and fear as long as we are incarnated here, it is the Energy that prevents inertia...so learn to see its value and you will lessen its presence...the lesson will be learned.

Its like it is all presented to us, drawn to us in a way, that we may garner the wisdom to grow after we learn the lesson, this process helps bring forth to ourselves a more and more and more expanded idea of who we are and indeed who we can possibly be. That is what we wish to satify is it not?...that yearning in our Energy to be more...more what? More of whatever it is we came here to be..your heart knows the way we need only find the path and know by knowing that it leads home.
Again this doesnt mean that we will be able to escape the fear and pain... And for as long as we are trying to escape to "enlightenment", here is where we will stay. "Enlightenment," I feel needs a new definition or a revamping of sorts... whatever you think of it, it is simply the natural result of loving absolutely every facet of who you are. There is nothing else, just unconditional self love! And that takes some pretty positive thoughts and a little bit of alchemy because once thought they (Electromagnetic pulses) must be grounded by the feeling Electromagnetic pulse of Love...and when conducted in a "no conditions" circuit... it forms into a positive creation, and usually one so perfect we never expected it.

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posted April 11, 2013 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lexxigramer... I haven't come to this thread in a long time. Just read this, page 2. I "feel" you! You know it!

Pox???? wha'??????? This is definitely getting surreal!!!!!


Yes, People can be numb.... Unconsciously I think we are all afraid.... Some people think that their excellent life and fortunes must be from "living right"--- afterall, none of "this" is happening to any of THEM???!! They seem to have immunity? (gosh... lucky)

Therefore, the philosophy and logic must say for them (probably unconsciously) that you [I, afflicted people] are "flawed"... That there MUST be something wrong with the way YOU are, if there's nothing going on wrong with THEM...?

This frees them from the "boulder of responsibility" that rests on THEIR etheric shoulders, as your "karmic buddies"...

"Be a debtor to no one--- except to LOVE one another. AND, Bear (karmically) each other's burdens, lest their Cross become too much to bear alone!!"

(paraphrase~, must seach out the references - several NT)


This is what we karmically OWE to each other here! WHAT would we have done collectively for Linda Goodman in this?... She had a life filled with ongoing soooo many sorrows!

We should be moved as much as we can to help [Lexxi] persevere! (And I realize there are ones here who have and do...)

Within the voice of her writings, LINDA her cried her soul out... Pain howls!!---- It's not "pretty"....


I KNOW this is real-time and real LIFE for you, Lexxigramer! It's shockingly real.... I'M NOT TIRED OF LISTENING TO YOU!!!

I'm sorry if I've "missed" things here for you Lexxigramer!? ---- Perhaps I'm sorta 'dense' when it comes to communication?? (I battle to be on computer, Lexx~~) I almost always feel 'awkward'.... and I get confused by things people say--- I'm not present "all over the boards" so I don't have all the "context" of conversations. In order to not be overwhelmed right now (with all the hazards going on in my environment), sometimes I can "only" look at one or two threads at a time. I WANT to do a good job.... but I mess up!! (sooo sorry)

I may not be as "active" here at LL as I'd like to be! I'm not as "fast" as others. I cannot sweep all over these threads and "be" there and give the kind of thoughtful responses that I want to give. And I miss playful banters of the past...

"Don't be so heavenly minded that you are no earthly good!" .... We need to stuff this thought into our incense burners and comtemplate for a while.

There is an appropriate TIME to DROP being etheric-spiritual when a person is NOT getting results! We must be citizens of a world that STARTs being physically "real"--- boots on the ground!! Work out our 'salvations' -- If your spirituality is REAL, you CANNOT lose it by getting down and dirty with the job of living in materiality!! We need a PRACTICAL spirituality??

Peace to us all

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posted April 12, 2013 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mirage......what part of that sweet message you left Lexx was meant for me?

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posted April 12, 2013 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thankyou and so moved and sorry oneruledbymars...

Hope that people know that I wasn't singling any one person out here... Caring about each other is a collective-body thing. I've known about Lexxi and her struggles since around Christmas 2012. I know what a good hearted person she is... So quick to deeply and thoroughly respond to other's needs. In her own case, certainly!, if there was a person here who "trying" it is she!

Yes, we can't all see our own blindspots... It just grieves me when the amount of physical suffering and catastrophe gets "out of balance." I know (in my own life) how we grow through these... I saw the aha! moment of power she had when she was able to 'solve' the problems of the insulin... that was sooo fantastic!

But is there a point where an 'intervention' should happen? When life will cease (they'll die) if we don't intervene?

I know people who are promoters of the tough-love philosophy of life. Some of them border on being sadistic! But they allow their child to learn-- (borders on abuse, I feel?)...


I like your writings and thoughts. I think about the things I read... Even if I don't agree off first read, I will consider things as though it 'could' work or be an answer... Try not to close my options. It can be surprising what works, or what 'new' thought can be birthed from another...

I want to find the things that help people, (and help myself). Thankyou ORBM for your participations in these conversations....


Am in a weird kind of frustration state today--, trying to solve the global mysteries and miseries...

I realize on one hand today that there is nothing to dissect and solve --- it's like energy is locked-up--- and yet it seems that there is an answer there?

Many places here I've talked about spiritual things... AND there is also a deeply practical side --- For all of us, what are we gonna DO, with what we know and dream??

Can we with united intentions help Lexx's world not be soooo painful that she can't cope?

How can we make sure we're doing what we have to do?

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posted April 12, 2013 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
... another quick observation ORBM??

I "know" what your trying to say... I'm excited to read your material, and I'm lovin' it!

But perhaps a person with bodily physical distress cannot focus enough to peer deeply enough behind complex words and ideas?

Certain vocabulary words can have 'connotations' and 'double-meanings'... Some people on posts at LL use words like these "on purpose" in order to "hurt" people they've decided not to like. (sooo sad, but true)

I apologize if you are a seasoned LL posting member ... Ah yes, I just looked at your post-count and registration date. You are known here... I am not as familiar with you.

But I'm really glad to be getting to know you more now.

Wishing care and love to all!!

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posted April 12, 2013 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cute, D? I think not. I was quite serious.

Lexx, don't refrain from posting on this thread because of what I said.

You both know me and I will not be quite when witnessing two individuals I care for go at each other. However, since we can all agree to disagree; let's move on and stick to the topic at hand.

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Remember, love can conquer the influences of the planets....It can even eliminate karma.

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posted April 12, 2013 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My honest take on this is not too complete, however I have deducted enough impossibilities so if I let my intuition speak, it speaks this:

I know that each of us is born with an earthly mission, it's not something we decide as we are growing, it has been with us before that, we grow into our mission and realise it- this requires a mindset that exists above any physical disability or handy cap. Hellen Keller comes to mind as I write this.

The mindset brings us forward into our mission, our perception is based on the conditions that brought us into earthly form and can change radically through transformation of the spirit. Great spirits, too large for their physical systems often have greater difficulty inhabiting the small space, a great spirit is expansive and can penetrate deep into the Universe.

The same level of thinking that asks the questions such as LOA will only have three possible answers, yes, no and maybe.
Why?

I think we are asking the wrong questions and are succumbing to spiritual-materialism, why focus on reality creation when you don't even know what you are meant to create? Focusing on your mission alone sends one down a corridor immediately, too lofty for any obstacle. Why get rid of the obstacle if it is not hampering your mission? That is not selflessness. Your mission to serve humanity through regcognising your mission is! Why waste time creating your perfect life when your spirit can walk right through it? Because it takes strength and courage.

Remember who you are & you can complete your mission even if you are blind and deaf.

There are reasons why we are born with or without certain faculties and 'things' and that is not the focus. It's a new age hook to divert from your mission.

Manifesting is somewhat easier when on the mission, but only to aid your mission, even if you don't know what that is yet. Which is why people think "it" doesn't work. Perception is key and only you can create that, so is your ability to complete your mission before expanding again.


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posted April 12, 2013 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SUN CHILD --- That was magnificent! Thankyou sooo much!

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posted April 12, 2013 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mirage,
I totally understand where you are coming from, that is why I wanted to ask.
You said:" But is there a point where an 'intervention' should happen? When life will cease (they'll die) if we don't intervene?

To me each person has their path, but it all leads to one Source.
As a physical therapist for 5 years I saw many people with many different physical ailments and many different heartbreaking stories…..I learned humilty and gratitude
in that career, I always felt it was an honor to help someone heal and still do…when I get the opportunity to help someone heal physically it is one of the most
beautiful experiences I know. We are moving into a time where it is easier to see through the veil of illusion and many of us will be coming
to our own personal truths….trust that the puzzle pieces will fit…and how wonderful it is to discover how we fit in the puzzle when Love is the picture.
I understand Lexx's health problems and I empathize greatly, I think you misundersand me there.
The sad part is that there are some humans that are experiencing even worst situations than hers.
Variety is the spice of life here on Gaia and when we expose ourselves to it we learn so much about the hidden spectrums in our own matrix.
And we also learn that we cannot be responsible for each other….we each must help ourselves first and then others when they ask, but even then
first you must make sure you have helped yourself or how can you even say yes…I can help you….when you really can't….to become the wounded
healer you must heal yourself.
We cannot play Christ to each other this time, this is the Age of Aquarius not Pisces…
It is time for us to pour out our water vessels of love into this world from our inner fountains, not continue
to play victim and savior…we must learn the lesson of victor and savior and move on.
Nor should we be comparing paths to each other….we should walk our paths as though we are wearing blinders concerned with helping each
other only if our brother ask us for help, but not so concerned that we put their happiness and welfare ahead of our own.
Lexx is responsible for her own life, there is nothing we can do beside fill the requests that she has perhaps if we lived
closer and could help her with her day to day activities and doctors visits, this is the practical side.
Otherwise we must accept that all is as it should be, and that it's neither good nor bad…it just is.

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P.S
I get what you are saying about people doing things on here to intentionally hurt each other. Just know that that is not my intentions when posting anything here, I only want to help as part of my own mission is to help lead people to their inner path and help them stay there... So namaste , I look forward to getting to "know" you as well.

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