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Topic: The neverending cycle of trial and failure with Anti-Depressants
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Aries Eagle
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From: Λ Άρης Λ
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posted August 14, 2014 03:55 PM
  
Greetings fellow members,I came to a conclusion that people should never ever try any antidepresant drug in the first place because when we do we will alter our normal god given neurochemical balance and we will enter a never ending cycle of trial and error of drugs and dosages .. even if you find some antidepressant drug that is working for you it will stop working over time in my experience. I have tried a long list of antidepressants before I came to this conclusion. I'm not saying its impossible to go back to mind homeostasis after you try mind-altering drugs but its hard. So best keep everything natural and if you're depressed and thinking about trying AD drug please don't do there is many ways to treat depression other than AD drugs.***
*** People who already made the mistake and entered the never endingcycle of AD's are not included in this advice because sadly they need the help of some drugs to rebalance what the AD's had altered.
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Ellynlvx
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posted August 14, 2014 04:44 PM
I feel for you.------------------
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Stawr
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posted August 14, 2014 10:13 PM
Amen, thanks for sharing Aries Eagle.
I am anti drugs myself. I quit smoking with out pills. Today it's been exactly 2 months. I have herbal supplements and since I got past the 1 month mark I don't even feel like I need them. I probably will when I go back to work and school though. haha But that's fine, it's natural stuff that is good for me. I have Valerian and Skullcap in case I'm moody. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted August 14, 2014 11:08 PM
Wow, Stawr!That's Really Cool, Congratulations! Good Job. IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted August 15, 2014 12:25 PM
Thanks Ellynlvx!
My boyfriend is going to take me out for Indian food to celebrate!IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted August 15, 2014 03:08 PM
Indian Food Rocks!We got a tray with all sorts of different goodies on it once. That was Really Good. Vegetarian, too. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 16, 2014 02:07 PM
We have an Indian buffet here. They serve goat.  IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted August 16, 2014 03:33 PM
Do they make you wash your hands?Er, ah, hooves? IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted August 16, 2014 04:22 PM
Sorry, Randall.Mercury and Pluto feel they Must have their Way with me... IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle
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From: Λ Άρης Λ
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posted August 18, 2014 07:52 AM
Thanks for the reply's my friends,After a long journey of trial and failure the only AD that is working for me right now is Effexor XR (Venlafaxine) 75mg hopefully it doesn't stop working. IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle
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posted August 18, 2014 08:00 AM
If anyone needs help with their problems with AD's I would be more than gladly to help if I can.I have a fair knowledge about the condition Anhedonia.  IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 18, 2014 02:38 PM
Goat tastes like pot roast.IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted August 18, 2014 04:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
We have an Indian buffet here. They serve goat.
meat or milk? IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 18, 2014 07:40 PM
Meat!IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 19, 2014 01:55 PM
Felt weird eating it.IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted August 19, 2014 04:51 PM
Well, you know what they say...IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
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posted September 09, 2014 06:19 PM
A close friend had this unfortunate experience. She learned later on after staying on anti-depressants for far longer than she should have that the SSRIs altered her natural brain chemistry and it was really difficult for her to adjust to life when she was off of her medication. I was also on an anti-depressant for anxiety for about 3 or 4 months and it was rough getting off of them and re-stabilizing. For at least 2 months I struggled. I don't even know how difficult it would have been if I had been on anti-depressants for over 12 months as she had. That's why therapists recommend combining therapy with anti-depressants so you can resolve issues while on meds and therefore you won't become dependent on meds to survive for long periods of time. I wholeheartedly support this notion. My friend made the mistake of relying solely on anti-depressants to get better but it didn't help, 7 months into it she gave in and began therapy and by the end of the year she found she was ready to stop but by then the physical effects had already occurred.  IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted September 09, 2014 07:52 PM
^I had no idea that could happen going off meds. Makes sense though. Glad you got off them when you did. So sorry to hear that about your friend. IP: Logged |
Twirl
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From: Europe
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 11, 2014 11:50 AM
These type of meds eat up your natural mineral resources (including the ones that help you make feel happy), so you keep ending up using them in an endless cycle. It's really important to use supplements daily that feed the mineral levels in your body. IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle
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posted September 12, 2014 08:44 AM
When wanting to stop one of the nervous system drugs always slowly lower the dose bit by bit over long period of time (weeks) to avoid a shock to the nervous system, this especially happens if the drug has a short half life which sometimes leads to severe withdrawal symptoms and in some cases can be deadly.The "cold turkey" approach is not advised. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 13, 2014 01:34 PM
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Randall
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posted September 14, 2014 02:19 PM
Some are helped, as AG stated.IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle
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posted September 16, 2014 11:46 AM
They work for some people, in my case the cons outweigh the pros.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 17, 2014 04:13 PM
I concur.IP: Logged |
deepseablues
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posted October 07, 2014 08:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Greetings fellow members,I came to a conclusion that people should never ever try any antidepresant drug in the first place because when we do we will alter our normal god given neurochemical balance and we will enter a never ending cycle of trial and error of drugs and dosages .. even if you find some antidepressant drug that is working for you it will stop working over time in my experience. I have tried a long list of antidepressants before I came to this conclusion. I'm not saying its impossible to go back to mind homeostasis after you try mind-altering drugs but its hard. So best keep everything natural and if you're depressed and thinking about trying AD drug please don't do there is many ways to treat depression other than AD drugs.***
*** People who already made the mistake and entered the never endingcycle of AD's are not included in this advice because sadly they need the help of some drugs to rebalance what the AD's had altered.
Thank you for posting this!
Totally agreed!
I have had severe sometimes suicidal depression since I was 12 and despite many people trying to convince me to go on anti-depressants I have always heard from my body an intuitive NO so loud its deafening!! Makes me cringe to even think about using them. I got some serious opposition in the Personal Reading forum for saying to someone that said they were severely depressed that I would not suggest going on medication which I only said because someone else said she should (but they later edited). And I get told in all capitals to use discretion when giving medical advice! Suggesting not to go on meds is the opposite of giving medical advice! Telling someone to is way more giving medical advice but I got quoted and yelled at in all capitals for suggesting no which I followed with long explanations of personal reasons why I don't suggest it. And I have studied some herbal medicine and natural healing methods as well as using them for myself. But everyone thinks cause the doctors hand them out like candy that it must be OK or even right. I also believe it was Linda Goodman who wrote that taking these for a prolonged period can prevent one from ever being able to open the third eye. Possibly in Gooberz. I remember because I was so happy to have my intuitions further confirmed! Furthermore if one choose to believe that we do choose our natal charts then suffering from depression must be for a reason! We chose to have it to learn something from it! Possibly to pay off karmic debt for using drugs in a past life that didn't allow us to feel truly/ abused our serotonin/dopamine levels/ altered our brain chemicals in that life and the depressions could be paying off a karmic debt for that! And taking anti-depressants could just add more debt for not feeling what one is meant to and trying to escape/alter it! Just personal opinions/intuitions though so hopefully I don't get told off in all caps for it. IP: Logged |
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