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ilunatique
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posted June 01, 2017 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can find it here.
http://www.ourspiritualnutrition.com/is05.htm#Our_Spiritual_Nutrition

When i acknowledged my conflicts that ultimately lead to sickness, i got better.

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posted June 02, 2017 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

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posted June 02, 2017 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Adding more resources
http://www.my-holistic-healing.com/body-mind-and-soul-symbolism.html


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posted June 05, 2017 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dreamscomeslow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is very interesting. I've often thought of these two being related and never knew it was a real thing. Thank you.

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posted June 06, 2017 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my. Now that is a truly powerful
compilation. Thank you for sharing it.

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posted June 07, 2017 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are some good things listed here, but don't limit yourself to this list. There can be additional causes. It's a great starting point. What you think is very much related to how you heal. And staying in alignment with your thoughts can keep you healthy.


Thank you for sharing this.

If you search online, enter into the search field:
[ailment] metaphysical cause
Or
[ailment] spiritual cause

For [ailment] type in what you are experiencing and sites will come up that have metaphysical or spiritual causes rather certain disorders or diseases. Choose the one you are guided to or feel connected to and this will be a great start for healing work, energy work, meditation, etc.

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posted June 11, 2017 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good advice.

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posted June 12, 2017 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
There are some good things listed here, but don't limit yourself to this list. There can be additional causes. It's a great starting point. What you think is very much related to how you heal. And staying in alignment with your thoughts can keep you healthy.


Thank you for sharing this.

If you search online, enter into the search field:
[ailment] metaphysical cause
Or
[ailment] spiritual cause

For [ailment] type in what you are experiencing and sites will come up that have metaphysical or spiritual causes rather certain disorders or diseases. Choose the one you are guided to or feel connected to and this will be a great start for healing work, energy work, meditation, etc.


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posted June 13, 2017 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, PS.

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posted June 14, 2017 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good seeing you around!

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posted June 15, 2017 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted June 16, 2017 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a vid of someone who is a shamanic healer. She uses the Medicine Wheel to help a person process various issues. In this vid she quick-mentions having had a client whose cancer vanished after dealing with the emotional energies that could have been fueling it. After the emotions were processed, the body knew how to heal the cancer.

This is just to introduce her material, her therapies.

(topic) [016] Coffee with Dakota-- Healing Emotional Pain (Dakota Walker) [8:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssTwLk7XKSw

Here are a list of other 'Coffee Talks' with her--
- http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLl0n-frdXTdj-6Xdjt1qAnczjZsxqgQ0C

Here's the main page for her youtube channel-- http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBIyVziDPxfu2bW54lq7c8g

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posted June 16, 2017 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Harry Edwards speaking about healing.

aka Henry James Edwards
(May 29, 1893 to December 7, 1976) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Edwards_(healer)

(topic) Harry Edwards Spiritual Healing [12:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgFywJFTMeA

The Harry Edwards Prayer

May I be thankful
for all the blessings
that I already have.

Grant me relief from pain and sickness,
Protect me from all ills, and
Grant me good health in the days to come.

Remove all causes of imperfection and
Bring Thy healing ministers close to me...
that I be conscious of their Presence,
and so receive guidance and inspiration.

Grant me Courage and Fortitude,
to overcome all adversity.

Let me Be Conscious of Thy Strength,
in all times of need.

Grant me Confidence to overcome my fears,
and not to anticipate harm.

Teach me how to live Rightfully in Thy Sight,
do only That which is Right and True.

I pray that Good Guidance and Right Influencing
will inspire all Thy peoples to Be as Brothers,
one, to the other.

And that Peace shall endure for all time.

Amen

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posted July 08, 2017 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder if mental health issues are from past lives of doing magic in a negative way?? Like a karmic backlash?

I wonder if my depression is connected to a past life.

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Lexxigramer
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posted August 02, 2017 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I said it before and I will say it again:
THESE REASONS THEY ALL SAY ARE THE CAUSES OF
HEALTH ISSUES ARE EVIL BULLSHITE!
Disgusting and very disheartening indeed!

Just like the damn bible and other cultures where people are accused of being evil and totally deserve all their illnesses.
Societies have ostracized sick folks for thousands of years due to this evil concept of blaming folks for all their health issues.
By their kind of reasoning I and others are the most disgusting deserving of bad things to befall us and should just freaking die and not get in the way of or come near those lucky healthy folks! These kinds of thought are cruel and uncaring and heartless and just plain nasty and untrue.
My lists of some of my afflictions are here in this forum.
Go ahead and think of me as a disgusting loser who deserves it all and got it all from incorrect thought and other freaking nonsense bullshite reasons they claim!
And please do not bother to say it does not apply to me; because anyone who actually buys into the line of oppressive unkind crock is accusing and blaming me for my physical woes.
I did not ask for them nor cause them and that goes for the birth defects I was born with. People I have loved did not cause their horrible illnesses that killed them often slowly.
People who believe this evil shite have no compassion or real love for others. That is my opinion and tough if anyone does not like it!
It is very depressing and makes me almost sad enough to end my life because people I thought cared buy that crap. It is bad enough being ill with many things but being blamed for them; being told I deserve them; makes me wonder why I even bother being social when folks actually see sick folks as losers. Wow. I cannot believe these ideas promoted are seen as spiritual wisdom when they are evil concepts to label ill and deformed folks. Not spiritually evolved at all people. This is so damn depressing. On that note; anyone who does believe I and others deserve and ask for it all; well if there is any justice in the universe may they get back exactly what they believe others caused or deserved! Maybe then they would not be cruel to folks who did not ask for their health troubles. People who buy into this bullshite do not deserve good health or happiness!
Randall delete my post if you want but I have about had it with new age fraking bigotry and bias towards folks with health problems.
I had to say something.

PS any one here who buys into this crap do not bother to say you fee sorry for me because of my afflictions because by token of believing the crap at those sites; you do not care and so do not fraking lie to me!
Damn.

Me and all my disgusting afflictions you all; say I caused and deserved shall try to not inflict my vile ill self on you all again.
I am having enough of a had time keeping from giving up without idiots saying I deserve and caused my afflictions.
OK rant over.

Edit to add:
CONSIDER THIS PEOPLE BEFORE BUYING INTO THE CRUEL AND DISGUSTING CONCEPTS PROMOTED THAT SAY WE WHO SUFFER CAUSED IT ALL; ASKED FOR IT AND DESERVE it!
>>>>>>>>>>PERHAPS WE WHO ARE AFFLICTED AND SUFFERING ARE HERE TO TEACH PEOPLE COMPASSION AND LOVE FOR THOSE WHO SUFFER INSTEAD OF BLAMING THEM OR SAYING THEY DESERVE IT.<<<<<<<<<

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posted August 02, 2017 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's your opinion. Why would I delete it?

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Lexxigramer
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posted August 02, 2017 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Randall.
I am utterly horrified by the claims they make and are also potentially dangerous; and even deadly advice and false reasons for human illnesses; from germs, to birth defects, to cancers and other things.
AIDS and other viral and bacterial things are not caused by incorrect thought and other ridiculous things! Correct thought is not a preventative for viruses!
It has been several years since someone here at LL shoved this kind of drek in my face when they learned of my long list of afflictions.
So....
I went down through the list of their descriptions of causes again and cannot stop crying and shaking my head in utter disbelief and horror and deep sadness and anger that people can be so damn stupid and actually post such crap and tout it as being wisdom and truth.

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posted August 02, 2017 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Attitude can effect how we deal with ill health; but it does not cause it.
Try walking in my shoes and most folks would as they have even said; they would kill themselves and many even here at LL have suggested that is what I should do so that I can reincarnate in a better body.
The reasons give for the ills I am afflicted with usually indicate a person who is weak minded and such;
and the mere fact that I have not killed myself shows that I am far from weak minded.

As to Karmic reasons for things;
My theory is that yes, there may be Karmic reasons for some things;
but I feel it is more likely to be because of assaults, murders, wars and whatever
and not reasons for disease and other health issues.
Take for example; Adolph Hitler.
What if the Abrahamic religion stories;
with Moses and such;
what if these early Jews
who actually murdered and raped and enslaved people; including infants; and were proud of it and and bragged about it and even put it in so called holy writings;
and claimed to be doing so by order of their god;
what if the people they committed genocide upon and other atrocities upon;
were Hitler's ancestors and or even places Hitler had lived in during some of his incarnations.
Karmic payback makes sense under such circumstances.
See the many atrocities these early Jews committed and consider that if reincarnation is true and he and his tribes were murdered repeatedly by these early Jews by the tens of thousands; maybe even millions;
then Hitler may have had Karmic reasons for his wanting to exterminate the people who literally in the past did sweeping widespread genocide to the peoples of ancient lands to the West of them,
So yeah; Karmic reasons for genocides and wars and rapes and murders and all; yeah that I can say is possible.
But not the reason or cause of humanity's health issues.
For those who are not aware of the horrors the early Jews perpetuated upon the peoples of what we later called Europe and so forth;
here are the Biblical sections that illustrate these atrocities that are worthy of Karmic retribution/payback. http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible3.htm

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posted August 03, 2017 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, LEXX.

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posted August 03, 2017 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome Randall.
I just hate the negativity that is thrown at people who are suffering from health woes and that negativity and bigotry being promoted and touted as spiritual healing and new age wisdom.
Common sense,science, and logic must be employed when addressing health issues;
and not illogical outdated biases, bigotries, social pariah beliefs and superstitions and such resurfaced and packaged in a bunny foo foo Shanti poo poo ghaia daisy do dahs up their tukasses mumbo jumbo garbage pseudo philosophy;
that is being touted by them as to what causes human health issues and suffering.
See the vast amount of $$$$$$ many of these new age snake oil salespeople are acquiring sucking in the gullible and suffering folks. They are getting rich selling lies and do not give a flying fig if it hurts people or leads to death because of folks buying into their advice/reasons for causes of human health suffering.
Sigh.......

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posted August 05, 2017 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The following illustrates the kind of thing that happens too often when people believe that health and injuries and such are deserved or caused by the suffering ones .
Similar to many other countries, who pretend to be civilized;who still turn their ill or disfigured folks out to the street; even children.
http://www.stuffmomnevertoldyou.com/blogs/when-americas-ugly-laws-hid-the-disabled-poor-from-the-public-eye.htm

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posted August 09, 2017 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"People who buy into this bullshite do not deserve good health or happiness!"
.......
"I just hate the negativity that is thrown at people who are suffering from health woes"

So throw some too...? I get it though..


I personally always ask myself questions. I will write here one recent example.

I had a very sudden sciatica pain 2 years ago. I couldnt bend, sit down easily, sleep, climb stairs, walk fast, etc. Pills for the pain helped me for a while but it didnt cure my problem. Got X rays and went to a doctor to check it out. It wasnt the end of the world in the radiography but I went straight to kinetotheraphy and started doing work for my back. It hurt and i couldnt do much. 2-3 weeks after theraphy the pain slowly started to fade away and i got better.

This summer, i got sciatica pain again. Even though I continued the exercises i learned at kineto! I couldnt bend, i literally had to let myself fall on surfaces so i could sit. And that hurt so much. Laying down/sleeping/walking was hell also.
So i started to ask myself questions and analyze.

I thought of the last time it happened to me and searched for any similarities between my life then and now. 2 years ago right when i got my sciatica pain i had some fears about losing a guy. I was scared that i will be left alone and abandoned. I have abandonment issues/fears because my father did that to me when i was very young and i was left alone with a mother that worked a lot. I didnt see her much and i always got panic attacks thinking that she left me too and she will never come back like dad. Fact is, i dont constantly live with this fear but it shows up when someone important to me wants to leave/leaves. It feels horrible.

This summer, i experienced the same feelings. So i found an answer. I was sooo happy but so sad that I am doing this to myself. When i realized it all,, i relaxed and tried to resolve my conflict/fear. I stopped letting fear overwhelm me and i stopped constantly thinking about being left abandoned and I NO LONGER HAVE SCIATICA PAIN!!!!! Hooray

When i checked ourspiritualnutrition, i got double shocked because of the accuracy. I test this on myself, and so far it works. My mother that has a lot of health issues (the ones that cant heal, like heart/veins/bones) has exactly the same conflicts on that site going on in her life now.

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posted August 09, 2017 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are all energy.. and if you re blocking or harming or hating or fearing etc your own system (attacking it negatively)....you will feel it.

At least, thats my reality.

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posted August 13, 2017 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's an interesting, well-done one that includes chakra theory, and Chinese medicine.

(topic) Physical Pains And Their Metaphysical Meanings (Higher Self) [26:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdWoW9VwbN0

QUOTE Published on Dec 9, 2016
Physical Pains And Their Metaphysical Meanings
August 20, 2016
by Lawrence Michail


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posted August 13, 2017 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ilunatique... good for you!

Lexx ...
You're a Brilliant, STRONG and Incredibly BRAVE Woman.
You KNOW my Heart goes out to you, whether I post a note, or not.
Hoping you find Relief...


I DO understand how these kinds of sayings can make someone intensely angry. Been there!

The way I 'listen'... I don't take it literally... I loosely, in a meditative and curious way "consider" what I'm hearing, to see if there's any kind of *ping* inside.

Sometimes, considering these kinds of things, actually releases some pressures...


But yours are so strong Lexx...
I wish 'just hearing' could make you better.

If you ever are allowed to go to acupuncture (I know that sometimes Medicare used to pay for those), IF you listen to this (and skip the Louise Hayes refs), you could get some ideas to mention to them.

Blessings.

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