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MoonMystic
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posted August 08, 2017 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edited: I'm not doing this diet or any diet.
Any diet that eliminates healthy food options is probably unwise.
I'm eating only based upon nutrients my
dis-ease(s) reflects upon my need to nourish
My cell/DNA for optimal health.

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posted August 08, 2017 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Magikaal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I have read about this diet. I don't know much about the AB restrictions so can only give you my perspective as a type O. I do like some things about the plan but not all.

The general principles of the O diet agree with me. The biggest thing about the O diet (as told to me by a company representative) was not consuming wheat. Since I avoided wheat my health has improved massively, night and day, literally. (I didn't actually 'follow' the diet because it was too restrictive, I only noticed this correlation when I eliminated wheat of my own accord, due to a recurring health issue that finally cleared up when I avoided wheat.) I went near vegetarian once and it didn't work for me. The Type O diet is a high protein low starchy carb kind of thing and is not compatible with being a vegetarian. I'm still tinkering with my diet but the general principles for me work well when I do follow them. In real life, I actually don't follow the diet that closely (too expensive and too restrictive).

What I found interesting is that the forbidden foods on the O diet, some of them I haven't liked since I was a child and some of them I found did cause me problems, unexpectedly. (e.g. eggplant) That said, I still eat foods that I'm not supposed to as a type O (e.g. beans and lentils occasionally). I don't have any major health issues. I honestly don't know if the diet would work for everyone. But after my previous health issues, I've been avoiding/restricting stuff which I know upsets me and these just happen to be some of the forbidden foods on the Type O diet.

Some of the general principles of the diet are to exercise regularly and to avoid processed food. This is pretty good advice anyway and not specific to this diet.

I guess I'm not totally convinced that everyone fits neatly into one of four groups. The diet plan as it stands I find overly restrictive. To the best of my knowledge, it also doesn't take into account underlying health conditions e.g. allergies, intolerances. Maybe you could try to look at the most important things for your blood type that you are not supposed to eat and consider those as a start. So for AB, according to the internet, this is (correct me if I'm wrong):

'Type AB blood: Foods to focus on include tofu, seafood, dairy, and green vegetables. He says people with type AB blood tend to have low stomach acid. Avoid caffeine, alcohol, and smoked or cured meats.'

So as a first step, how much caffeine, alcohol and smoked meats do you consume? Maybe you could limit those if you eat them a lot? I don't know about the bread. Maybe an AB can answer that one (it's the rarest blood type of the four so I hope you find someone). I would suggest, rather than following the diet plan as written, to go down the list, pick out the foods you know are causing you problems and start limiting those. Then try eating more of the recommended foods (tofu, seafood, dairy, green veg). See how you go with those, maybe? They sound quite healthy to me except for over-consuming dairy and there are some health concerns about soy/tofu. I guess it depends what you can tolerate and doesn't cause issues. If you do have underlying health conditions, you would have to take these into consideration as well (check with your doctor etc).

It really depends on what you currently eat and how many changes you have to make. If too many changes have to be made, you won't be able to stick it out long-term. This is supposed to be a lifetime way of eating not a short-term thing so you know, it has to be something you can stick with. And thinking of what a nutritionist told me once, she said it was best to eat a wide variety of nutritious foods (not necessarily food groups) and to eat in moderation (not eating one food group at the expense of others). That way you stand a better chance of getting adequate nutrition for your body. BTW I'm not a fan of the traditional food pyramid and food groups, reeks of commercialism etc.

My two cents. (I am not a doctor or nutritionist so these are my suggestions and experience only). Sorry if that was confusing. The long and short of it is, you have to figure out what's best for you, and everyone's different.

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posted August 11, 2017 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 11, 2017 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Magikaal
I am also O;
O negative.
The diet for O- does help me.
Definitely lowers my blood sugar and lessons some abdominal cramps etc.

MoonMystic
I suppose a diet for AB or any specific blood type would help folks with those specific blood types too.

Basically listen to your body and its cravings.
Also keep a food journal.
I do; and it helps me identify problems and solutions to a degree.

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posted August 11, 2017 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Magikaal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is interesting, that it does help both of you.

@Moon I think your approach sounds sensible. And best of luck with the coffee I'm sure some people wouldn't be able to give that one up lol.

I just looked up grains for type AB and looks like you can eat them (except for regular wheat, corn, buckwheat and kamut). Seems to be mostly meats that are not recommended for ABs with their low stomach acid. From what I can find...

Grains OK to eat for AB:
Millet, Oat bran, Oatmeal, Rice Bran, Puffed rice, Rye, Spelt and sprouted wheat and any products such as flour, bread and noodles made with these grain products (The inner kernel of the wheat grain is highly acid forming for Type AB. Wheat is not adviced if Type AB is trying to lose weight. The inner kernel of wheat grain is alkaline in Type Os and Bs, it becomes acidic in Type As and AB.) All kinds of rice and any products such as flour, bread and noodles made with these.

Grains to Avoid for AB:
Buckwheat, Corn and corn flour
Bread and noodles made with Buckwheat and Corn
Kamut, Kasha, soba noodles, Artichoke pasta

So looks like regular wheat, buckwheat and corn are not allowed. You would have to go with rice bread, rye or spelt bread. Doesn't seem to be an issue as long as you can find a specialty bakery that produces rice, rye, oat and spelt loaves. Depending on where you live, it may be hard to find. When I lived in a big city we had a fantastic store that had all these types of loaves in addition to mainstream wheat bread, but now in a small city I don't get these. My impression is that rice bread is the easiest to digest but it's really bland. I love the taste of rye and spelt (they taste like "normal" bread but I can't get them here). I've heard some people make their own bread but that's a bit of effort lol. So good luck with finding the bread. Spelt in case you didn't know is an ancient form of wheat and to me it tastes the same as regular wheat i.e. regular bread. Rye has a strong taste which some people don't like but I rather like it. Have you eaten it before? You will also have to be careful that gluten free breads or some specialty breads may have corn and different grains in them so always check ingredients (no wheat, no buckwheat, no corn, no kamut).
And oh, I forgot, it's quite likely that wherever you live, these specialty breads are going to be significantly more expensive.

FWIW it looks like you're on the right track and I think you should feel better as long as you can stick to it. Just see how you go and take it step by step.

@Lex, that is interesting. I'm O+. There are some small differences between O+ and O- like O- can eat lentils but O+ cannot. Having said that, I still eat a lot of rice because cutting out grains is too expensive for my budget I think you must be in the same boat. I have blood sugar issues and I think lentils/beans are useful in that regard (and cheap!)

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posted August 12, 2017 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

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posted August 13, 2017 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know what to think of it.

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posted August 15, 2017 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 16, 2017 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi MoonMystic.
In your post just above this one, yes, prices are ~crazy.

I'm O+ Blood-type.

Bread? ...
I just began noticing in the past year that certain brands of bread affect my gut.

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posted August 16, 2017 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DEFINITELY COFFEE!

Has MANY Health Benefits.
I've gone months without it before.
My doctor told ME that it is GOOD for me -- ('conditions' the restrictive or constrictive actions of blood-vessels in the head-- for people who tend to headaches at times).

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posted August 16, 2017 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Coffee is great for migraines!

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posted August 17, 2017 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't know if the caffeine helps or if it's something else in coffee, but pain relievers do contain caffeine.

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posted August 17, 2017 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Went to the doctor this morning. He prescribed a (non-narcotic) pain pill, which has caffeine as one of its ingredients.

There are over-the-counter brand names that advertise they put caffeine in it.

So yes, it IS good for that.

*little guy in coffee cup*
{too bad that smilie site is gone?}

(music) You're The Cream In My Coffee (Annette Hanshaw, 1928) [2:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3ZnlZR7pIU

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posted August 18, 2017 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rheanna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anybody with type O, what's your experience with corn? Do share...

This is mine.

The first 30years of my life I had them in my diet. My health was never good back then but they were not the culprit.
I relocated and had less and less corn. Practically none for more than 5 years. Mister is a choosy eater and he was the cook in the house.
When he was out of town, I bought plenty of corns and made corn fritters spiced with turmeric, chilli and lemon leaves, my home town's style. I had only corn fritters for dinner. My head spinned and I felt so sick in less than 10minutes. The next day I tried the same meal. The same sickness.
A couple of days later I had corn again as a side dish. With no spices. Again it happened.

So...no more corn for me in this life.


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posted August 19, 2017 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I miss that smilie site.

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posted August 20, 2017 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a friend who can't eat vegetables, and he feels best after eating meat.

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posted August 24, 2017 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 24, 2017 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
awwww HUGS MoonMystic!!!

I haven't switched back to the pepridge bread again for a while. I've been staying with the store-homebaked brand.

I HOPE you find the answers to your mystery and diet!

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posted August 24, 2017 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I peel then cook well (in water), somehow the heat-process makes them okay when cooked-through? Never fried one before.

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