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Rheanna
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posted March 19, 2018 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rheanna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just found my old books by Sondra Ray:
Loving Relationship
The Only Diet There Is
Healing and Holiness

Anybody has been to the ashram?

Experiencing rebirthing?

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posted March 19, 2018 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have her book, "How to Be Chic and Live Forever"!

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posted March 20, 2018 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But no, I've not experienced rebirthing.

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posted March 21, 2018 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should try to get a copy.

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posted March 23, 2018 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rheanna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
You should try to get a copy.

She is one fascinating lady and she wrote wonderful books.

Thanks for the idea. I believe GZ library has the copy. I will take pics of the book on my ipad.

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posted March 23, 2018 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rheanna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately no. All libraries in my city do not have her books nor Leonard Orr's. Only Louise Hay's.

Shanghai library has Ray's books. Yes, books. In Polish. Dooh!

Does she mention about Babaji in this book ypu recommend?

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posted March 24, 2018 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes!

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posted March 25, 2018 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About Babaji.

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posted March 26, 2018 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many books speak of him.

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posted March 27, 2018 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm trying to think of another one I liked.

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posted March 30, 2018 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rheanna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall,
I don't think I like the idea of physical immortality. I think it is against the law of nature.

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posted April 19, 2018 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Several species (mostly aquatic life forms) have no death genes and don't age or die, so it's not against nature.

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posted April 19, 2018 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's her youtube channel --
- http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJznkd_kxq7gSBrQE4I_k0w

Her website --
- http://www.sondraray.com/

Free book available for download --
- http://www.sondraray-markusray.com/free-ebook-4-decision-you-can- make-right-now-to-have-awesome-relationship/

QUOTING..
Sondra Ray and Markus Ray Best-Selling Authors

“THERE ARE 4 DECISIONS YOU CAN MAKE RIGHT NOW TO HAVE AWESOME RELATIONSHIPS”

We want you to experience awesome relationships all the time. There is no reason why you can’t if you make these four decisions.

Here they are:
* DECIDE FOR AWESOME THOUGHTS
* DECIDE TO LOVE YOURSELF ALWAYS
* DECIDE TO LOVE YOUR BODY
* DECIDE FOR PEACE

~* ....

Rheanna -- RE your question about rebirthing.

I've witnessed re-birthing techniques being used before in workshops in the late 1970s.

They gave me a turn, but, I can't remember it at all~~ Just that they have a person lay on a mat, and two people lift the upper body up-and-down really fast for a few minutes? (Was like doing a sit-up).

I imagine that it works for some people.
Didn't have the best childhood~~
Now, I thank God for the Bright Spots ..

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posted April 26, 2018 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shulia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!

I havent been in that Ashram and I don't know Sondra Ray.

But I did experienced Rebirthing.
I received it form people who were following Leonard Or teachings about it.

My experience was really good. Its phisically very exhausting thou and can be scary too because it makes your mind slow down and you may feel you are not in control , and its scary at the beginning.

Thats why you need someone you trust next to you, because that person have to make you feel you are just breathing and nothing bad can happen and you have to feel that person can help you and kmows what is doing.

If you find someone like that then its really a healing experience. Some old things from your life may come back to you but if you are prepared to face those things then its good.

I totally recomend it.

Just... when I did that I was 18 years old, and that people even if they were good people , made me believe they were kind of Gods or ' my gurus' and tried to manipulate me about a lot of things, and control everything I was doing.

But that wouldnt happen to me now. Also it has nothing to do with the therapy which was amazing.

Just... in this kind of environments if you are too vulnerable you find sometimes people who isnt ok too, and wanna control you too much. But about the therapy I just have good things to say about.
Also if you do it under water its amazing and more powerfull.

Best wishes for you in your rebirthing experience if you do it.

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posted April 28, 2018 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rheanna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mirage,
Thank you to take the time to do the research!

I am sorry that your rebirthing experience was not memorable enough for you to remember. I haven't experienced it yet but from what I read it should be a powerful experience.

At present I am not as curious and willing as I used to. If it is to be, it will come to me.

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posted April 29, 2018 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rheanna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shulia,
I thought that rebirthing is done per session. It should not be a cult or religion. Where did you have your rebirthing?

Do you think you can rebirth yourself after you are familiar with the procedure?


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posted May 04, 2018 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted May 04, 2018 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leonard Or

(topic) Chat With Leonard Orr, discoverer of Rebirthing & Breathwork (interview by Marla Martenson, June 2016) [4:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSFVIHrfxMU

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Leonard Orr is the discoverer and founder of the worldwide Rebirthing Breathwork movement.
As a result of spontaneous rebirthing experiences, from 1962 to 1975, he discovered and developed the technique known as ‘connected breathing’, where the inhale and exhale are merged with no pause in between.
This is the natural breathing rhythm of babies, animals, and most young children.
This technique is used today in hundreds of various forms of breathing styles.

Leonard was spiritually enlightened in 1960, unraveled the death urge he learned from his family tradition in 1967, and had numberless spontaneous birth, prenatal and infancy memories.
Leonard sometimes says that his healing and personal evolution was caused by spiritual accidents in the bathtub.

- http://www.rebirthingbreathwork.com
- http://www.leonardorr.com


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Nah...
The thought of 'all the breathing' literally makes me quite nervous. I don't like the sense of dizziness, NOR do I want to faint from it. 'Be Here NOW'??? LOL

I'll stick to *hugs* and looking into each other's eyes and Just Loving them. Telling their Soul... You're Right By Me.

(music) Breathe (Faith Hill, lyrics) [4:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx6DUQ7uqEw

(music) Anna Nalick cries during "Breathe 2am" (Crowd sings for Anna due to laryngitis, 11/5/15, Albany, NY) [6:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDydF7FBHNI

(music) With You I'm Born Again Live (Billy Preston & Syreeta, 1980) [3:59] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3zGoATPBiw

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posted May 05, 2018 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rheanna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mirage,
How did the experience affect you? The preacher should not do that without your consent. I would be very angry if it were done to me.

Something crossed my mind when reading your post about trust issue.
Could you trust 'natural element'?
Reading Ray's books made me exploring two things. One, lying on bed breathing. Two, surrendering (falling back gently) into water in the swimming pool. Floating still and feeling the water caressing my body. Relaxing. Consciously breathing. Back in the 'womb' experience. Very soothing for the body and soul.

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posted May 07, 2018 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rheanna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mirage,
Big long hugggs to you!

I am sooo sorry to hear about your childhood experience, especially the abusive part with your mom.

Have you healed the young Mirage within you? Have you nurtured her needs to grow?

Both my parents were orphans, so as much as they love me, they could not express their love. With my mom, there were periods where the young me needed to play the adult role. The decision maker. I have learned to make peace with myself. Perhaps I used to be her mom in other life times.

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Being a separate human from the parents...
You made peace by having a compassionate view of them.

If you were to go through a rebirth experience, what do you imagine you would feel? What would be the purpose behind wanting to have this, at this point in your life?

What do you need?


Thanks for the long hug! It's reciprocal.

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posted May 07, 2018 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
..

*laughing* ...

(music) Wild Thing (The Troggs) [2:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6uXWcWtO7I

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