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SoulOfABird
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posted November 24, 2018 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don’t know why but Im struggling with my mind do much. I feel worried about who I am, about what I might become or being someone I dont want to be or believed myself to not be. I feel bothered constantly concious of who I am. Not feeling good enough for myself and I don’t know what to do. Lately Ive been feeling so bitter and I don’t know why... but it doesn’t help and makes me feel worse. I feel moody and frustrated, more easily annoyed than normal.
I don’t even know exactly the right way to explain my problem without not making sense or people not understanding. I feel like crying as I write this. I feel stuck,.. on one hand I really am grateful that I have gotten past a really hard time of my life, thanks to god.. and although it still lingers within me, I know it could be worse... while on the other hand I still can’t get past the worries that still linger. I dislike myself. I feel like Im not good enough for myself. I feel numb and indifferent but at the same time emotional.. it doesn’t make sense. I feel selfish and I hate it.
It doesn’t help that I read and hear things that induce my worry. Im here pushing through because I know I must. Because I know it can be worse so why should I complain ? I tell myself.. in any case who I am or who Im not I don’t know for sure... such that I just want to be invisible or curl up in bed and sleep sleep and sleep...

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posted November 24, 2018 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SoulOfABird {{{{ }}}}

You are not alone right now with this struggle. Thank you for putting it 'in words'. I think many in the 'collective' are going through something like this right now. We live in a world where there are SOOOO many freakin' things going on that are 'outside our control.' So many losses going on. Sensitive souls, the 'Souls of {Beautiful} Birds' can be unconsciously absorbing some of what has been going on in the etheric atmosphere, without realizing it.


Back to some of the things you are saying.

Gently, please notice your statements.
Look at every "I" statement.

That's called your "observer self." The "I" or I AM.
It's your CORE self. Your true basic self.

It's trying to sort pieces out using the 'mind'.
It's making value judgements about what it 'thinks' and compares itself to. Our minds are loaded by comparisons in the world. Ideas of perfection. Ideas that society has shown us, our parents have shown us. We try to 'fit' ourselves into the Puzzle of Life.

You are (positively) Growing and Evaluating 'what you want' right now. That's a Good thing.. That's a Growing thing!!!

You are clarifying who you ARE.
Who you want to BE.
What you want to say to the world about your self.

Being in a flux-state is an AWESOME (positive) place to be--

You can RE-define "you"!!

Start with "I" … Then change your self-talk.
RE-Frame!

(music) Masterpiece *yourstar* (Jessie J, acoustic) [3:34] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttr9ynVM3oU

Your LL name and post today, reminds me of Nelly Furtado's song I'm Like A Bird.

(music) I'm Like A Bird (Nelly Furtado, lyrics) [4:03] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vHH2pOzuMA

I see that you mention 'God'--
I don't know if you like gospel music?
When I-personally get really discouraged, I like to turn inwards and towards the messages in the deep gritty sweaty gut-rendering songs of the gospel performers for catharsis and a re-affirmation of strength and power within.

(music) His Eye Is On The Sparrow (Jennifer Holliday performing) [9:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHTW3FJs70s

What's your belief-system background, SoulOfABird?

I'm an eclectic Inspirer! *hug*

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posted November 24, 2018 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your "I AM" core self..
is standing in front of your 'wardrobe' closet.

(gentle humor)
Your mind is overwhelmed and saying, "Dahling, *I* simply don't have 'a thing to wear' in this old closet!'"

*hugs* !!!

You have the rare and Beautiful OPPORTUNITY to "Be" whoever you want! :startheart:

You're a Queen!! Trying on those NEW Threads.

(music) Vogue (Madonna, 1990 MTV Awards) [6:24] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTaXtWWR16A

You Are Loved!! {{{ }}}

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posted November 25, 2018 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 26, 2018 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sage advice, mirage.

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posted November 26, 2018 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(thanks for saying that, Randall)

I've been through things like that myself. Can be so painful. Sometimes, they say that we can be our own worst critics.

I've been feeling a little more tender and sad recently. It's a "family" time, and, I don't have one of those.

So.. I'll wrap every single 'sad' person feeling 'awful' about themselves in my embrace, to let them know that they are important. Not to give up.

They are a perfecting-work of Art,
and God (through Life) is not done working with them yet.

(music) If I Could (Barbra Streisand) [4:42] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LutUkQhrWEY

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posted November 27, 2018 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm my own worst critic.

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posted November 27, 2018 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi SoulOfABird,
Whatever you're going through right now, know it's a phase. It WILL go away. The bad feeling will go away. I used to feel similar emotions. Self-help books have helped me. I read a lot of spiritual books trying to understand this world, and myself in it. I, too, still feel selfish sometimes. Perhaps it's a matter of tuning outward rather than inward. Accept your inner state, your numbness, confusion, situation. It's O.K.. You have all the time in the world to realize yourself, to reveal to yourself, and to others, if you like, who you are. And you are one-in-a-million, or much more than a million, actually. You're unique, whatever path you'll be taking. No one sees the world from your special angle. And I see right now you may feel that's not a bad thing, since you feel distress. But there is still a vast ocean of things to be revealed to you, when you will feel better. Is there someone close you can talk with?

Just know you are not alone. You are not the only one with this kind of struggling. Sometimes someone has to feel pain to open him or herself up to the world, or to others. Let someone else, someone you can trust, know how you feel. Don't carry the weight alone.

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posted November 28, 2018 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Hi SoulOfABird,
Whatever you're going through right now, know it's a phase. It WILL go away. The bad feeling will go away. I used to feel similar emotions. Self-help books have helped me. I read a lot of spiritual books trying to understand this world, and myself in it. I, too, still feel selfish sometimes. Perhaps it's a matter of tuning outward rather than inward. Accept your inner state, your numbness, confusion, situation. It's O.K.. You have all the time in the world to realize yourself, to reveal to yourself, and to others, if you like, who you are. And you are one-in-a-million, or much more than a million, actually. You're unique, whatever path you'll be taking. No one sees the world from your special angle. And I see right now you may feel that's not a bad thing, since you feel distress. But there is still a vast ocean of things to be revealed to you, when you will feel better. Is there someone close you can talk with?

Just know you are not alone. You are not the only one with this kind of struggling. Sometimes someone has to feel pain to open him or herself up to the world, or to others. Let someone else, someone you can trust, know how you feel. Don't carry the weight alone.


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posted November 28, 2018 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent response, Ayelet!

Sometimes we get that baggage suitcase from wounds that happened in childhood. Afterwards, little (negative) kinds of pieces can get added to the various bags. It can amount to 'the wardrobe' pieces we keep layered like reminder under-wear.. made of harsh materials.

Reminds of the childhood story of The Emperor's Clothes? The king gets convinced that he's wearing fine-clothing and parades down the street. Thing is, he's actually only in his underwear, but everyone is told to 'agree' that he is marvelously and magnificently dressed. .. .. until a child spoke up and told the truth.

Maybe that's an "inner" story that plays out.
We "agree" (even way-down unconsciously) that the terrible things that might have been said and done to us by others is true, and we work our lives around those mental-constructs. It fashions our behavior throughout life, and others in our current worlds unconsciously respond to 'wrong idea-vibes' we vibe out.

Some people manage to get through all the way past adolescence (Jupiter and Saturn transits) without too much damage, and gained that inner-resilience that make a person so well-able to tackle the world and bounce back from defeats (which DO come), with greater strength for having gone through it.

They say that the first 5 to 6 years are the most important as far as establishing a child.

We ALL have an innerChild somewhere inside us.

THAT child was Born to Win, and hold Possibility!!

From my innerChild .. to yours.
RE-make your story, your World. *hugs*

(music) I am A Promise with a Capital P (Ally Brett {age 5}, performing on Feis and Blood, Christ-oriented German TV program, April 2012 TG4) [2:48] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUI7oBqcsV0

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posted December 02, 2018 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O.P. never came back to acknowledge her responses?

Ah. Perhaps she must be feeling better now.
Some things are just a "passing" wave.

May all our sadnesses and Trials find their resolve and pass quickly--

May we retain any wisdoms learned in the process, walking away taller and fuller with our unearthed treasures.

Transition!

The dragon doesn't live here anymore...

(music) Lay Down Your Burden (Susan Osborn with Paul Winter Consort 1982) [6:46] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01eb8-70G1w

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posted December 05, 2018 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
SoulOfABird {{{{ }}}}

You are not alone right now with this struggle. Thank you for putting it 'in words'. I think many in the 'collective' are going through something like this right now. We live in a world where there are SOOOO many freakin' things going on that are 'outside our control.' So many losses going on. Sensitive souls, the 'Souls of {Beautiful} Birds' can be unconsciously absorbing some of what has been going on in the etheric atmosphere, without realizing it.


Back to some of the things you are saying.

Gently, please notice your statements.
Look at every "I" statement.

That's called your "observer self." The "I" or I AM.
It's your CORE self. Your true basic self.

It's trying to sort pieces out using the 'mind'.
It's making value judgements about what it 'thinks' and compares itself to. Our minds are loaded by comparisons in the world. Ideas of perfection. Ideas that society has shown us, our parents have shown us. We try to 'fit' ourselves into the Puzzle of Life.

You are (positively) Growing and Evaluating 'what you want' right now. That's a Good thing.. That's a Growing thing!!!

You are clarifying who you ARE.
Who you want to BE.
What you want to say to the world about your self.

Being in a flux-state is an AWESOME (positive) place to be--

You can RE-define "you"!!

Start with "I" … Then change your self-talk.
RE-Frame!

(music) Masterpiece *yourstar* (Jessie J, acoustic) [3:34] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttr9ynVM3oU

Your LL name and post today, reminds me of Nelly Furtado's song I'm Like A Bird.

(music) I'm Like A Bird (Nelly Furtado, lyrics) [4:03] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vHH2pOzuMA

I see that you mention 'God'--
I don't know if you like gospel music?
When I-personally get really discouraged, I like to turn inwards and towards the messages in the deep gritty sweaty gut-rendering songs of the gospel performers for catharsis and a re-affirmation of strength and power within.

(music) His Eye Is On The Sparrow (Jennifer Holliday performing) [9:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHTW3FJs70s

What's your belief-system background, SoulOfABird?

I'm an eclectic Inspirer! *hug*



Oh my gosh thank you so much for taking the time to respond with such a nice message and your cute humor lol Im sorry I didn’t respond sooner, Im all over the place...I just read all your responses. I honestly didn’t think anyone would respond. Ive written things like this before but no one ever responded. Let alone keep coming back to check on me. Again thank you. I feel sad time to time. Like right now. I feel sad about myself. But then sometimes Im okay. It’s hard because I feel in a fog. It’s like now I don’t even remember who I am anymore. Yet Im still trying to keep myself moving. Thank you for your warm response. I will come back to all your guys warm responses from time to time for encouragement.

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posted December 05, 2018 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Hi SoulOfABird,
Whatever you're going through right now, know it's a phase. It WILL go away. The bad feeling will go away. I used to feel similar emotions. Self-help books have helped me. I read a lot of spiritual books trying to understand this world, and myself in it. I, too, still feel selfish sometimes. Perhaps it's a matter of tuning outward rather than inward. Accept your inner state, your numbness, confusion, situation. It's O.K.. You have all the time in the world to realize yourself, to reveal to yourself, and to others, if you like, who you are. And you are one-in-a-million, or much more than a million, actually. You're unique, whatever path you'll be taking. No one sees the world from your special angle. And I see right now you may feel that's not a bad thing, since you feel distress. But there is still a vast ocean of things to be revealed to you, when you will feel better. Is there someone close you can talk with?

Just know you are not alone. You are not the only one with this kind of struggling. Sometimes someone has to feel pain to open him or herself up to the world, or to others. Let someone else, someone you can trust, know how you feel. Don't carry the weight alone.


Thank you so much for your kind words 😊
I don’t really share these things with anymore. I am currently in counseling though and I did kind if talk about this so she knows but maybe not to this extent.


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posted December 05, 2018 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*Hugs* to you, SoulOfABird.
I found a copy of your natal chart.

Do you have a copy of Planets in Transit, by Robert Hand?
- http://www.amazon.com/Planets-Transit-Life-Cycles-Living/dp/0924608269

If you do a computer search, you can find free PDF downloads. (I'm not familiar with the companies who offer these, so, I'll let you search if you'd like).

I prefer paper.
Extremely valuable, even if you don't know any astrology and just want to read a book with paragraphs of "good advice."

All the words you've used in the title of this topic, AND, in your paragraphs, "fit" the descriptions of several coinciding (some longer) Transits!!

TRANSITS
Saturn square Saturn (3/4 square)
Neptune in the 1st House
Neptune conjunct Sun Pisces

You are ending
tJupiter conjunct Pluto

There's "general" transit of
"Jupiter Sag square Neptune-Mars Pisces"
(read up on that)

tVenus Scorp on your Chiron.
(That can give feelings of doubting yourself, and feeling absorbed in self like you have no worth?).

Buy (or borrow) the Robert Hand book--
READ your transits!!! omg, it will be REALLY enlightening for you!!!

If I type it all out, this would get too long.

What you are going through with
Saturn square Saturn
is appropriate to your age.

The tNeptune ON your Sun Pisces has been with you for a while, and WILL be for longer. In your First House.

You are (and have been) being peeled. Being peeled of all the layers of identities that you thought you were, projected to others, and, have had projected onto 'you'.

Let yourself assess what you want, and be like a tree trunk. Your leaves, your limbs, are being challenged/arranged by the Universal Tree Trimmers.

Saturn square Saturn is 'testing' what is yours, what 'belongs' to you, to see what remains when you have felt so shaken.

Venus to your Chiron.. is temporary. (self-doubt) self-questioning.

You HAVE been in a period of "soul-searching".

What you're going through is not to make you crazy. You are DEFINING yourself. You are collecting emotional experiences for your emotional-data banks.

Sad and Awful about self??? If you read that book, I hope you will SEE yourself in it, and, maybe, be encouraged!?

Remain 'loved'. Be gentle with yourself, and with tNeptune, stay away from "drugs." Even the kind prescribed by doctors may produce side-effects that you might not have had before.

You're going to be okay.
Learn your transits? It will HELP you put your psychology in 'context' and HELP you stay sane and SAFE. Do no harm to your Beautiful self.

When these are finished, let's hope you have moved into a fruitful time for your life.

tJupiter in Sag is coming on top of your Midheaven.

Read the book... {there are good parts to these transits if you can wrap your head around what's going on, and USE the positive side of all of this!}

Sending you Best!
Keep us briefed.

PLEASE *No Whole Quote* (I need to clean up the writing)

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posted December 07, 2018 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, mirage.

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posted December 09, 2018 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you feel the counseling is helping? Can you tell her? In any way, let me advise you to refuse being medicated. Just emotional help. You can do this.

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posted December 09, 2018 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ayelet! I agree. Great advice ..

You Can Do This

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posted December 10, 2018 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't add much to the great advice on this thread, except to reiterate that you should avoid medication.

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posted December 11, 2018 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Transits are temporary. You'll feel better.

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posted March 03, 2019 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I want to thank you so much for taking your time to write this for me. Im truly thankful. I didn’t expect any replies but your kind words made me feel a bit better. Im sorry I didn’t reply til much later but I haven’t been on this site. I have been trying to stay away from astrology, although it is rather difficult. I feel like it has done more bad to me than good. And it brings down and causes worries in me about who I am.
People on here were suggested I stay from medication... it’s a bit too late for me, Ive been on Zoloft for nearly 4 years now. It has made me feel even more lost in a way. However, I was diagnosed with OCD, anxiety, and depression, and I feel like it has helped me a bit with OCD, helping me to not linger so long on unwanted intrusive thoughts which cause me anxiety and fear. I have a love-hate relationship with it. So Im REALLY having such a hard time deciding on what to do... I just don’t know to get off of it, or stay on it. Because there are pros and cons to both

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posted March 03, 2019 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Do you feel the counseling is helping? Can you tell her? In any way, let me advise you to refuse being medicated. Just emotional help. You can do this.

Counseling really hasnt worked for me. I have such a hard time opening up. I just can’t. For one it is hard for me to talk to people, and then for 2 I know people will judge me or not understand. Very rarely does someone understand me. Im very weird I know. And my problems are hard for me to say out loud. Im terrible at expressing myself to people and I cant articulate well.
Ive been on medication for almost 4 years. For OCD, depression, and anxiety.

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posted March 03, 2019 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
I can't add much to the great advice on this thread, except to reiterate that you should avoid medication.

Im taking it already lol for a while now 👀

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posted March 03, 2019 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is the medication helping? I understand you have a hard time opening up, but perhaps a change of therapist is in due? All you may need is someone you can talk to... Maybe try writing your emotions down.. Then dealing with them. If you don't trust the counselor, replace her! You need to feel chemistry with her, and that you can open up to her potentially.
4 years taking the meds, you may still be out of it some day. Of course the most important thing is you get the help you need, which is why I asked you whether they help you at all. I personally don't believe in them as medications. I do believe they can do a lot of harm in the long run. But if you feel assisted, I won't tell you to get off them, maybe also because of the withdrawal effects from which you may suffer. But I think if you succeeded in opening up to someone, you wouldn't have needed taking the meds in the first place (though I really don't know!). I only tell you those medications are dangerous because of my knowledge of them. Read "Anatomy of an Epidemic" by Robert Whitacker (I think that's his name). Obviously right now you may focus about finding a way to come through! I can imagine how it feels to have bottled emotions and not being able to tell anyone. It may feel terribly alone... And you may agree to this only because you don't believe you can ever be understood by someone outside of you. But I think you just need to find the right person. Would you like, perhaps, I don't know, to share a bit here so it might help you open up there?

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