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Betty Boop
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posted March 05, 2011 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really don't know whether "weddings" are for the woman or not.

You'd be surprised how traditional some men are - particularly in certain cultures.
If she has a ring on her finger - she is owned and branded.

In any case -- I am not interested in marriage. I could care less either way. I do believe in God but I don't feel as though the marriage ceremony or the contract itself would bring me closer to a person. When it comes to social acceptance -- de facto couples are not looked down upon in my generation (Although, if they were it still wouldn't phase me).
And legally, at least in Australia you have very similar rights to a wife - if you have lived with a man as a de facto partner for a certain amount of time.

It's neither here nor there for me. The guy I am with now wants to marry me. If I do marry him one day - it will be like a party from my perspective -- just like any other party, but with me and him as the -focus-.

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Randall
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posted March 06, 2011 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A party is a good way to look at it.

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posted March 07, 2011 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At least there is cake!

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posted March 07, 2011 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
At least there is cake!

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posted June 06, 2011 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Negative. I've had long-term relationships, but I am always up-front about my views on marriage. Marriage doesn't benefit the guy. Weddings are for the woman.


quote:
Originally posted by LEXX:
Well in my experience.....
and personal observations......
seems the men get most of the benefits.
The woman is not appreciated because he feels he owns her, and it is harder for her to just leave him.
I don't think I will get married again.
Some legal arrangement/agreement perhaps......
but not married.
At least that is how I feel at the moment.
I do not like being owned and unappreciated and being a legal drudge slave.
Guys usually treat girlfriends and mistresses way better.


Same pic here in India. Phewwwww! Is there any other world where we can choose to be born in the next birth? LOL (I mean a world where these things don't happen?)

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posted June 20, 2011 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gijoe728     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like your thoughts Randall they reflect much of my own. I have been engaged twice in my short time on this planet and I thank the powers that be that it didn't work out because both would have ended in divorce. Which I have watched many and none have been pleasant!

Taking into account the separation of Church and State I don't feel like marriage should prove anything legally since it is before God. A Civil Union or as you put Life partnership is what should matter in legal reference. If people choose to get "Married before God" on top of that, I have no problem acknowledging there commitment spiritually.

I personally oppose marriage for the fact that it has no justification legally and I don't believe in the Christian God so I shouldn't have to get married before him to make my partnership with someone legal. Making a legal contract in and out of a partnership sounds much better to me.

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Venus
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posted June 21, 2011 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i dont get it, if two people are in love and vow to spend the rest of their lives together then whats wrong with getting married?

i think people who oppose it are simply not confident of their comitment, they always keep a safe way out..

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posted June 21, 2011 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gijoe728     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i dont get it, if two people are in love and vow to spend the rest of their lives together then whats wrong with getting married?

i think people who oppose it are simply not confident of their comitment, they always keep a safe way out..


I have nothing against those that want to get married and it isn't that I want a way out because as previously stated it isn't hard to get divorced. I don't agree with the ceremony itself. I shouldn't need to have a christian ceremony to legally prove my relationship with someone much like Lexx said.

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posted June 21, 2011 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love weddings,

ya get to dress up, and free open bar!

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posted June 22, 2011 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by gijoe728:
I have nothing against those that want to get married and it isn't that I want a way out because as previously stated it isn't hard to get divorced. I don't agree with the ceremony itself. I shouldn't need to have a christian ceremony to legally prove my relationship with someone much like Lexx said.


i can see your point Joe, but i dont just mean "religious" marriages whats wrong with civil marriages?

btw where i live there are no Civil Marriages! i know, right? the couple has to elope to Cyprus (20 to 30mns away by plane) get married and come back.. that is especially sad since in the small country that this is we have 18 different religious groups all of which consider inter religious marriages a taboo so basically u have to go through your whole life nit picking at possible partners from your own sect...

my point is there’s nothing wrong with making your commitment official by law, the problem today is not with -weddings- and -getting married- it is with society's broken image of being married, every day we hear a statistic of how many couples got divorced or broke up, how the bad economy agitated everyone and that caused more domestic problems etc.. i think people should be less selfish and take life altering decisions less lightly whether it be marriage or divorce!

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posted June 22, 2011 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a feeling that if I had a traditional wedding with lots of planning, that I would be a "Bridezilla".

It would be hard not to flip the **** out, if your paying with your money and what you want gets messed up. Like if I want blue frosting and they give ya yellow. THATS NOT WHAT I PAYED FOR!! To me that is an injustice. You only get Married once. (HOPEFULLY. LOL)

I love weddings though.

But for the sake of not having "Bridezilla" episodes I would think just getting hitched in Vegas, or going to the City County Building would be best. That would be the only reason I would not want a taditional wedding.

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posted June 23, 2011 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted June 23, 2011 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
people always say i dun look like the type to get married. i think they mean that as a compliment or whatever but i always correct them i'm the type to get married 4 times.

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posted June 23, 2011 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha @ Charmaine!

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posted June 24, 2011 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think every female wants marriage.

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posted June 24, 2011 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emitres     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
I think every female wants marriage.

oohhh i think i may have to call you out on that comment... every female indeed!

i wasn't aware that many US states didn't recognize common-law unions... where i live it's fairly normal - i believe you can be considered in a common-law partnership after 6 months of co-habitation... file joint income tax etc etc... also, unless the Harper gov't repeals it, gay marriage is sanctioned within Canada... has been for a number of years now...
so am i accurately interpreting - within the US the only "marriage" recognized is one performed within a religious context? you don't have civil services?

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posted June 27, 2011 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cathy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm in my second marriage, first was in church, after 8 years being happily single I had a civil ceromony. Personally, I did'nt feel any commitment while we lived together for 2 years. It's true that in Canada common law couples have the same rights as married.

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posted July 20, 2011 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
America seems to be a bit behind other countries in that regard.

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posted July 20, 2011 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think every female wants marriage.

i have to say thats pretty sexist..

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posted July 21, 2011 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
I think every female wants marriage.
Well I have noticed both men and women do pretty much equally.
I know I have been proposed to several more times than I accepted. Even had a mother ask me to marry her son.
I do know if I remarried, it would have to be with a person who totally wants me and truly loves me and my company and I have to feel the same. No more "making do" with "almost", or "good enough".

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posted July 21, 2011 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it sexist if it's a true statement? I mean, I said "I think."

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posted July 21, 2011 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Is it sexist if it's a true statement? I mean, I said "I think."


No, it is not sexist if it is your opinion based on your personal observations of most women you know.
Your usage of "think" was your disclaimer of absolutes.
However if you said it is absolutely true 100% then yes, that would be sexist.
If it were 100% true, it would not be a sexist statement;
however it is not 100% true.


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posted July 22, 2011 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most women in America want to get married...most.

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posted July 22, 2011 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Most women in America want to get married...most.
Quite likely.

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posted July 23, 2011 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Weddings: For the brides, it means showers; for the grooms, it's curtains!

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