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T Knowflake Posts: 7672 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 18, 2012 09:29 PM Heard this on the radio today and it gave me chills - goosebumps. Mind of a Muslimah Amir Sulaiman: Danger (the original post disappeared at the site link) here it is again: Def Poetry - Amir Sulaiman - Danger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WczGIhmaJ_M I am not angry I am anger I am not dangerous I am danger I am abominable stress, Eliotic, relentless I’m a breath of vengeance. I’m a death sentence I’m forsaken repentance to the beast in his hench men Armed forces and police men that survived off of oils and prisons until their cup runith over with lost souls That wear over sized caps like blind folds Shiny necklaces like lasso’s Dragging them into black holes And I may have to holla at Fidel Castro To get my other brothers outta Guantanamo And the innocents on death row Is probably in the same proportion as the criminals in black robes that Smack gavels that Smash homes that Smack gavels that Crack domes Justice is somewhere between reading sad poems And 40 ounces of gasoline crashing through windows Justice is between plans and action Between writing letters to Congressmen and clapping the captain Between raising legal defense funds And putting a gun on the bailiff and taking the judge captive It is between prayer and fasting Between burning and blasting Freedom is between the mind and the soul It is between the lock and the load Between the zeal of the young and the patience of the old Freedom is between the finger and the trigger It is between the page and the pen Between the grenade and the pin Between righteous anger and keeping one in the chamber So what can they do with a cat with a heart like Turner A mind like Douglas, a mouth like Malcolm, and a voice like Chris? And that is why I am not dangerous I am danger I am not angry I am anger I am abominable stress, illiotic relentless I’m a breath of vengeance. I’m a death sentence I’m forsaken repentance to the beast in his hench men Armed forces and police men I will slice his belly open and Free The souls of the Navajo The souls of the Iroquois The souls of the Ibo The souls of the Scottsboro boys The souls of great Black leaders The souls of Kandahar and Baghdad I burn my white and raise my black flag To free the souls of the great black leaders The souls in Attica The piece of solace on the prison floor Until then I am not dangerous I am danger I am not angry I am anger I am abominable stress, illiotic relentless I’m a breath of vengeance. I’m a death sentence I’m forsaken repentance to the beast in his hench men Politicians and big business men I’m a teenage Palestinian opening fire at an Israeli check point Point blank Checkmate Now what! I am an inmate short shanked to the c-o Earlobe to earlobe Cut short Case closed Now what I am Sitting Bull with Coronal Custard’s scalp in my hands I am Senkay with a slave trader’s blood in my hands I am Jonathan Jackson handing a gun to my man I am David with a sling shot and a rock And if David lived today it would be a Molotov cocktail and a Glock So I say down with Goliath I say down with Goliath But we must learn, know, write, read We must kick, bite, yell, scream We must pray, fast, live, dream Fight, kill, and die free IP: Logged
T Knowflake Posts: 7672 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 18, 2012 09:39 PM (i think some of the words might be off.....i hear different ones .... will have to see if i can find the true lyrics) IP: Logged
Lei_Kuei Moderator Posts: 868 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 18, 2012 09:48 PM Without compassion, you become the very Tyranny you stand against... Its easy to spout bullsh!t like that when I'm not living in the west bank, nonetheless... I dunno, its just sad! ------------------ ~~ Did you know that a circle is round? ~~ - Tautology You can't handle my level of Tinfoil! ~ {;,;} IP: Logged
T Knowflake Posts: 7672 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 18, 2012 09:58 PM I'm not sure I know what you mean. I think his overall message was passionate and positive. & didnt hear too much spouting of bs. I happened to be scanning channels and this was just beginning. It caught my ear and I listened to it on the edge of my drivers seat....and made a mental note to look him up. Yes, different story when you are on stage somewhere, instead of living it. Could he be giving a voice to others...reaching a greater audience, ... for people that might never get a chance to scream and shout and be heard? I don't know. Perhaps he is closer to this, or it's more personal to him for reasons we don't realize. Sounds like a passionate poet/rapper to me. Nothing wrong with that. It can bring awareness to things that people don't want to pay attention to. I felt some strong heart-force behind what he had to say. It struck me. (sorry, i still have not looked to check lyrics yet) IP: Logged
T Knowflake Posts: 7672 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 18, 2012 10:06 PM there are a couple of violent soundling lyrics i don't like, yes. IP: Logged
Lei_Kuei Moderator Posts: 868 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 18, 2012 10:07 PM No sry, I mean its easy for me to spout crap such as : "Without compassion, you become the very Tyranny you stand against... " ------------------ ~~ Did you know that a circle is round? ~~ - Tautology You can't handle my level of Tinfoil! ~ {;,;} IP: Logged
T Knowflake Posts: 7672 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 18, 2012 10:08 PM I see. IP: Logged
T Knowflake Posts: 7672 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 18, 2012 10:18 PM i replaced the original post with what seem to be the correct lyrics. IP: Logged
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011	posted August 19, 2012 06:30 AM It really does incite violence and the lyrics are very divisive. I don't really see anything positive or uplifting about the piece in the OP. I could see his point in the beginning, talking about corruption, but once he talked about violent acts, terrorizing others, and murdering people, e.g., "clapping" a captain, the thing about the gasoline (and calling that "justice"), the grenade, "lock and load", killing a judge, killing a baliff, killing police, burning the "white flag", and killing Israelis, and then comparing himself to historical figures, that is where it went too far for me. He lost me there. I could see his point up until that part. As I've said many a time, I dislike extremes. I don't find that sort of thing appealing. I also don't like those kinds of lyrics as a matter of personal taste. I dislike rap for similar reasons, especially since those lyrics are often disrespectful of women and contain a lot of swearing. ** Also, I looked up his pages (found through Google), to see where he was from so as to see his POV. Apparently, he's from New York. I also don't see what this has to do with "divine diversities". I think that it would be better suited to Aquarius Rising. While it contains the world "Muslimah", it is more of a social justice piece. IP: Logged
T Knowflake Posts: 7672 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 19, 2012 06:40 AM Youre right it probably does belong here (i rarely visit this one and kind of forgot about it). I thought it could fit in three or four different forums. IP: Logged
T Knowflake Posts: 7672 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 19, 2012 06:46 AM I don't know if his meanings are clear enough, as is often the case with poems/lyrics. IP: Logged
T Knowflake Posts: 7672 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 19, 2012 12:52 PM He says "I am" this and that. He can't be all of those things (or people ). I don't see him telling people to go out and do all those things. I think he was using poetic license? Upset about violence that goes on. That's what I got from it anyway. I am not a avid listener of rap, but do know a lot of good rap. There is a TON of good rap out there that doesnt contain voilence and disrepect to women btw. There are many that have a message, often spiritual. Though if you can't take a harsh voice and certain beats and some swear words, I guess you wouldnt "hear" it. The crap that is mainstream and played on the radio is mostly junk (& mostly hip-hop). The greatest artists I've heard are all underground rappers, not well known or played on the radio. It's not my music of choice, but I do enjoy it sometimes. Sorry, it upset you. IP: Logged
T Knowflake Posts: 7672 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 19, 2012 01:13 PM ...though if you locked me up in a room and made me listen to Christian music all day, i might be just as perturbed as you are at this. So, I get it. IP: Logged
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011	posted August 19, 2012 02:02 PM quote: Originally posted by T: ...though if you locked me up in a room and made me listen to Christian music all day, i might be just as perturbed as you are at this. So, I get it. Actually, I'd get upset with (modern) Christian music, too. I hate that stuff. It's like Barney, Jesified (Jesus + -ified). It makes my ears ache and scream out in agony. OK, that's a bit dramatic, but still, I just find myself not enjoying it at all. It's cheesy and hard for me to take seriously. Give me organs and Messiaen any day. I can't stand contemporary worship music for the most part. Messiaen is as modern as I get. Exception: Placido Domingo's album "Amore Infinito". I'm not Catholic, but I still enjoy it. Other contemporary Christian music makes me feel like this: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7n2wrBtc31rtlw40.gif http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzsid7lBsl1r3fqkn.gif http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8txebjPo51r5gvs5o1_500.jpg http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lopi8xKaE61qgo041o1_500.gif IP: Logged
T Knowflake Posts: 7672 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 19, 2012 03:04 PM omg, youre funny! It's like Barney, Jesified (Jesus + -ified). LOL!! It really is. The little I've heard of it anyway. It hurts my ears too. Give me Gregorian or ancient Sanskrit/Yogic chants/ mantras any day of the week. Please & thank you. I'm going to listen to the links you provided later when i'm done listening to the music i have on now. Thanks. ________________ note re: topic, i still havent said a few things about the original lyrics that started this thread that have been on my mind. I guess I could pick it apart all day, but don't really want to. It might be better for some to read while not listening to him at the same time, to get his full or true meanings. I can see how his style and intensity might turn someone right off or give the wrong idea. Also, that blog post at the link that i originally provided deleted the post. I found it elsewhere on youtube and replaced the link. It seems he left out some of his original lyrics in the live version. IP: Logged
T Knowflake Posts: 7672 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 19, 2012 03:06 PM btw "Elliotic" means -- adjective of, like, or characteristic of T. S. Eliot or his style Who knew? new rap slang, i guess. Man, I"m old. LOL IP: Logged
juniperb Moderator Posts: 5837 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 19, 2012 03:28 PM It sounds like he is (maybe unknowingly) speaking on the Ahriman. ------------------ We dance around the ring and suppose, but the secret sits in the middle and Knows Robert Frost IP: Logged
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011	posted August 19, 2012 03:39 PM double post oops IP: Logged
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011	posted August 19, 2012 03:42 PM argh it posted twice but won't show up now even once...GRRRR. will retype IP: Logged
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011	posted August 19, 2012 03:48 PM quote: Originally posted by T: omg, youre funny! It's like Barney, Jesified (Jesus + -ified). LOL!! It really is. The little I've heard of it anyway. It hurts my ears too. Give me Gregorian or ancient Sanskrit/Yogic chants/ mantras any day of the week. Please & thank you. I'm going to listen to the links you provided later when i'm done listening to the music i have on now. Thanks. ________________ note re: topic, i still havent said a few things about the original lyrics that started this thread that have been on my mind. I guess I could pick it apart all day, but don't really want to. It might be better for some to read while not listening to him at the same time, to get his full or true meanings. I can see how his style and intensity might turn someone right off or give the wrong idea. Also, that blog post at the link that i originally provided deleted the post. I found it elsewhere on youtube and replaced the link. It seems he left out some of his original lyrics in the live version. (In case anyone is unsure, it's pronounced "JEEZ-if-eyed", even though it's spelled like "JESS-if-eyed"). Interesting tidbit: the Gayatri Mantra is used as the opening theme to "Battlestar Galactica" (re-imagined) from Season 2-Season 4 (the last season; in Season 1, they had an instrumental version). If I have to hear any more Christian rock or contemporary Christian music, I will get like this: If you've posted Sanskrit or Gregorian chant, feel free to bump the thread; I'll try to take a listen later! *citation: "Six Degrees of Separation". "Battlestar Galactica". By Michael Angeli. Perf. James Callis, Tricia Helfer, et al. Sci-Fi. 18 February 2005. IP: Logged
Venus Moderator Posts: 1634 From: Registered: Mar 2011	posted August 22, 2012 04:19 AM Mind of a Muslimah is probably a blog that shared this poem. since muslimah means muslim girl. yes it definitely has some violence, but violence is a vital part of our daily lives. we do not have the luxury of wrinkling our noses at the imagery since we live it every day. this poem reminds me of my confliction, the two parts of me. the pacifist and the downright angry.. though it's a very passionate and alluring poem i kinda feel uncomfortable with having it shared on LL cause it might upset some members. IP: Logged
juniperb Moderator Posts: 5837 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009	posted January 15, 2013 10:35 AM quote: this poem reminds me of my confliction, the two parts of me. the pacifist and the downright angry.. In the poem, anger then pacifism? ------------------ We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek IP: Logged
Venus Moderator Posts: 1634 From: Registered: Mar 2011	posted January 18, 2013 01:21 PM Yes notice how he says terms such as kill and fight and then pray and fast and other similar terminology .. Violence is there and quite explicitly imo but I wouldn't label this man as violent this passionate poem reflects the desperation of today's youth who inherited all the bloody conflicts and have been struggling without any hope to change their reality. What I see in this poem and the man who wrote it would disagree is desperation Personally I'm working on overcoming my inherited anger, blood boiling rage as Arabs call it and after bein exposed to war and death all my life it's going to be a life long struggle.. What's sad is we are a very loving culture passionate and loving.. hope you can experience for yourself IP: Logged

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