posted August 05, 2014 06:51 PM            

This sensitive subject is a part of the Aquarius Rising forum and it can be found moved there.

posted August 05, 2014 07:25 PM            

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posted August 06, 2014 10:10 AM            

the first said: "The jews are parasitic people. That's why they had to steal other people's land."

The second said: "It's horrible what Hitler did to the Jews but they are plainly vermin. They killed our Jesus." (I thought that "accuse" has been extinguished since the middle ages).

call me naive but I always thought that since the Holocaust anti-semitism should be at a low point if not eliminated at all.

posted August 06, 2014 10:17 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:

the worst I heard of was when several shops listed themselves as Christian so one put a Jewish sign on her store and her business dropped by a lot, which is unpleasant (and I hear not uncommon) but not inhuman. ...

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Really? that's not far away from being like that

Translation of the little lable:
"Germans! Defend yourselves! Do not buy from Jews"

posted August 08, 2014 04:03 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I've heard so many ridiculous things asserted (particularly about blacks, gays, even heard one Russian Orthodox lady who had fled Russia and was angry to hear Americans refer to her Russian Orthodox church as "the Communist church") that I can believe that. Heck, FOX News has spread some absurd stuff and it's very popular rather than discredited as it should be. Some of it was so absurd that it was almost funny...if it wasn't so sad or scary. Maybe I'll share specific examples later.

I'm just glad there weren't death threats or violence for you.

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Yes, pls. share some specific experiences.

posted August 11, 2014 11:18 PM            

There were so many who threatened her, and clicking on some names they looked real from their vids (speaking Arabic, for example, some of them in America and hopefully being scrutinized by the FBI), including one that said Islam was the religion of peace and he was going to rape her and cut her throat for saying otherwise.

I responded to that one with some Sag sarcasm of, "Truly Islam is the religion of peace." His sarcasm detector was working and he sent me a profanity filled PM that ended with "death to Christians and crusaders" (implying that was me).

But the channel got taken down, she took it down herself because she'd been terrorized into silence. As she made her vids in her college dorm room it was obvious where she could be found, and of course they knew what she looked like (and probably about anyone on campus would know who she was).

posted August 11, 2014 11:28 PM            

It's quite shocking how bad it still is (I'm leaving other incidents out). I was able to get a carry permit for a gun but my blasian girlfriend could not though she was just as qualified (in this state deputies don't have to give a reason why they deny someone a permit). My black BFF doesn't rise up in the ranks despite years of dedicated and competent service, and how I've seen others react to her is just absurd (flinching if she reaches inside her purse, a politician who stammered and back away after she politely corrected the politician on how to pronounce her name, a landlady who thought she was a drug dealer, and more). I once lived in a neighborhood where whites were the definite minority. And still it was white girls who tagged our basement against my blasian girlfriend.

And pretty much the final straw (not the only reason) we both quit one gun range was how racist it got after Obama won (it drove a lot of people away, not just us). First, an item that made the news was a black guy who identifies as Libertarian with an AR-15 at some gun rally (AZ IIRC) where Obama was speaking when others also showed up OC (open carrying) their guns to show their 2A rights and no doubt as something of a warning to Obama. So some at the gun range were glad for this but others thought he was a threat there for Obama and the Black Panthers and "not one of us." One asked why and short and sweet it was because he was black...and they couldn't tell the difference between gang members, Black Panthers (or New Black Panthers), and Democrats. It was so WTF that I wondered if they weren't joking but they were serious, and there was something about how black people are genetically compelled to wipe out the white race, and that now that Obama was elected "blacks were forgetting their place."

But one pulled me asking if Texas does a "better job" at "keeping the blacks in their place" and if the state is better for it and I pointed out the kind of racism they're thinking of is more East Texas than West but there's a lot of mutual racial hatred there, more violence (as the penalties are so severe that they're not going to be taken alive, especially if they think they're going to be executed anyway), and other problems agitated by the racism. My answer surprised him, I think because he thought my Texas accent (and my being quiet at first) made him think I was sympathetic to them.

I added that my friend who was also a member of this range is black, and she's not a Black Panther, gang member, or Democrat (and they shouldn't treat such labels as interchangeable), and she didn't vote for Obama, so I thought their "genetics" theory was...flawed (remember, this was a gun range, we're all armed, and I'm thinking these people are insane and the kind I don't want to see armed). One asked, "How do you know she didn't vote for Obama? Were you in the voting booth with her?" I pointed out I'd known her for years, she had my back just as I have hers, I know how she thinks and why she voted for who she did, and they weren't in the voting booth with her either. They said they knew and I said I knew her better than they did after approaching 10 years of knowing each other. They disagreed and I asked how THEY know who she voted for, etc, and was told "because she's black" as if this made perfect sense.

Even years later I'm still amazed that such a conversation still took place in California of 2009 of all places. I warned my friend and she said she wasn't surprised, for all the time she's been there she's seen them accept me with warm smiles but she only got polite nods. They liked me, but only tolerated her for my sake. Between that and the growing extremism devoid of sense we stopped going (though the beginning of the end started while Bush was still POTUS).

posted August 11, 2014 11:50 PM            

For now I'll just throw in the oddest group of skinheads were "gayskins" who were gay. This particularly gayskin group thought the highest form of life was a gay white man and the lowest form of life a Jewish lesbian. The details aren't clear in my mind but they revered one guy during Nazi Germany who is supposed to be gay (*) and thought if he had been in charge instead of Hitler then the Nazis would've won and we'd live in some Nazi paradise today that was a throwback to some Roman times they spoke of where men had sex with men for fun and women strictly for procreation. Though for all their hatred and bigotry they were outraged that all the other skinheads and neo-nazis hated them, too (deciding who to hate is THEIR right).

posted August 16, 2014 01:32 AM            

In 2004 some guys went around the parking lot of a lesbian club writing down license plate numbers and I went to talk to the main guy hoping to convince him to stop his repeated attempts of intimidation (that the police only did a little against) and better directing their personal efforts elsewhere using libertarian arguments (since they were talking of being "patriots" and believing in "freedom"). But he just spouted Bible verses about gays being an abomination and deserving death, conspiracy theories (if we gays REALLY owned the government like he said, why did the police keep letting him and his group go!?). My girlfriend came out and she was much more vocal against him and he pointed out our jeep, they'd already taken down the number and he'd be sure than when we'd least expected it we'd be followed and "executed as God commands."

The police took him & his group (claiming to be affiliated with the Army of God, known for promoting murder against gays and anyone involved with abortions) seriously enough that I was able to get a carry permit for a gun, and that county is loathe to hand such permits out.

And I've heard people who didn't know I'm a lesbian say things from we should all be put in ghettos to shooting us is justifiable self-defense because we carry AIDS and some even add we deliberately infect straight people with AIDS and/or a "gay virus" (not sure if this is AIDS or turns you gay). One of the less extreme types at the range even wants to arm all Christians against the "gay menace." He figured I was a heterosexual Christian (must've been my Texan accent, though he did say something bizarre about "knowing Christians by their fruits" and my carrying a gun proved I had Jesus in my heart) and warned me against the "pink pistols." He said they were a lesbian gang that would try to rape me until I turned gay (gods, I hope they don't believe that a man can turn a lesbian straight with rape...)

The Pink Pistols is an organization that consists mostly of gay men (and it seems to me most of the female members are bisexual rather than lesbian, and even some straight females come as they feel more welcome than among the more conservative NRA types) which advocates lawful self-defense against violent attackers (it was started by a guy who defended himself with a gun from a group of men threatening to turn him into "the next Matthew Shepard"). I've never known a Pink Pistol to carry pink pistols...ironically (for what I'm about to mention) I've only known straight women to find pink guns appealing, and most of them were conservative, heterosexual, Christian, and married to a man who I guess wanted to make a statement that they were "still feminine despite the gun." So imagine my surprise when the guy who told me to arm myself because of this report:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXxZdZxp_Lg

And yes, this hate propaganda is a pack of lies. O'Reilly even basically admitted it later when challenged for proof as well as plenty making the actual facts known (such as reliable law enforcement only mentioning one confirmed lesbian gang in Washington DC, or that the women who "received prison sentences" for beating Wayne Buckle at the beginning were not known to be part of a gang and it had been inspired by Buckle cussing, spitting, and throwing a cigarette after them after one of the women rebuffed his sexual advances in public). And I could go on and on. And not a single report of lesbians in a gang carrying pink pistols.

But a guy at the range brought it to my attention on why I should be prepared to shoot and kill lesbians with pink pistols who approach me. It's depressing to think how popular this channel is when it spouts BS worthy of a KKK pamphlet and even fought for the right to lie. Naturally, I didn't tell him I was a lesbian. I wonder what he'd have done if I did?

While I've been lucky to not have been the victim of a hate crime so far (beyond being menaced & threatened in 2004), it's a source of anxiety for me. And it hurts because I DO know victims of hate crimes.

posted August 16, 2014 04:54 AM            

She also asked about my BFF, or in her words, "the black woman." I didn't catch any racism in this at first but then the landlady acted as if she couldn't believe it when I said she was helping us get our computers set up & also drove me to where I need to do my biz. And she was one more idiot so sure her bigotry was actually infallible intuition that told her my BFF was a drug dealer and seemed disturbed when I offered to have them talk to each other (having a prominent pic of a very white Jesus on her desk is suggestive of her bigoted ways, too, at least when combined with how she was).

To make a perfect end to it, after she dropped that subject, she bluntly asked us if we were "sharing a room." When my partner asked what business it was of hers she hewed & hawed, claimed that it was "bad for the children" for 2 women to live together who weren't related by blood, and said they had a policy against letting someone live here who was an adult and not related to the one who signed the lease. When my partner demanded to see the policy with a tone I think she honed on unruly students the landlady then said she wasn't going to demand I leave, so it wasn't necessary for her to see it just that she thought it was bad "for the children" that we were living together and that THEY'D prefer I leave, and one of them told another mother living there this.

My partner then handed her an attorney's business card and told her that if there were any more problems or concerns, that she'd be talking to him about it, and that she figured the man who actually owned those apartments would get rid of her instead if it meant getting out of litigation which made sure she never brought it up (to us) again. (My partner has used that attorney before, and worried that this might happen he'd told her not to be afraid to come to him if it did...in fact, he'd LOVE it if there was a problem and she came to him...)

Later my partner pointed out to me something I hadn't noticed before: with the exception of a few Asian Americans (and I mean VERY few) EVERYONE there was white. And when an Asian American postman delivered a package, he seemed surprise when I thanked him and I've seen him act very nervous at those apartments. MAYBE that's just a personal quirk, but given how the landlady saw fit to actually ask--and perhaps interrogate is more the correct word--about who the black woman was and why was she here revealed a really ugly underside to that place.

posted August 16, 2014 09:03 PM            

I'm skipping a lot to keep this from being even longer, suffice to say that Megan had shared some things about my life with a friend whose father is an especially venal Baptist preacher. When her friend invited her and her mom to hear her dad preached we just took it as a "come hear my daddy" thing. Her mom refused to go so I took her figuring it was only a couple of hours, and it was being nice. The details are disturbing, but suffice to say the sermon was based on Romans 1 about how we gays are horrible, vile people and deserve death (and those who accept us do, too) and which was the basis for his sermon of what people devolve into without Jesus (and gave a "hypothetical example" which was obviously inspired by me, though it was rather warped).

And the worst was when he said only someone very sick and damaged, perhaps from abuse, could possibly have "unnatural relations" with someone like me and give the kids a horrid example...the reason my partner had been invited was this preacher was hoping to get her to throw me out and "get right with Jesus." I have no idea why someone so corrupt (another part I'm leaving out) would do that, though given how part of his sermon was that you had to "choose between love and lust" and how miserable his wife always looked maybe he was a closeted gay himself and took it out on me, that's all my Scorpio Jupiter can figure.

After he realized his plan wasn't going to work he went to our landlady and happened to know some of the other bigots around us so that turned up social pressure against our kids (but the landlady said there was nothing she could do, we live in a "Heathen nation" now), and then he went to the school board which is almost half fundie saying their letting my partner be a teacher there was promoting homosexuality to all the kids (getting a heads up from one of the other teachers she showed up for that meeting with her attorney practically rubbing his hands) and this was a time in which conservatives were wildly successful as getting rid of teachers (so it was a source of stress for all of us until a measure passed that made further layoffs unlikely). In short, his "love" for us tried to make us homeless.

And the preacher's daughter then turned the other kids against our girl and though I'm sad it happened I'm proud for how she stood up for herself. When our girl told them how I'd helped her family when they were sick with swine flu, took care of them, I volunteered to help the homeless and the homeless liked me (while not liking the preacher) so obviously I was good they pointed out that ********* Romans 1 again that said...well go to that link to Romans 1 (hold your nose if you must) and read from verse 26 to the end. And she yelled, "Then YOU'RE gay! You're the liars, hypocrites, and telling me to disrespect my mother!"

We then saw Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows P1 and I was touched when as we left our girl said the Death Eaters reminded her of the Christians giving her a hard time, especially the part where they were ruthlessly persecuting muggles (those without magic) and those with muggle relatives while publishing pamphlets on the "Muggle Menace" as if they were only defending themselves from the muggles rather than oppressing them and committing vicious hate crimes against them. Good job, Christians, you've taught a little girl to equate you with evil wizards that were obviously based on the Third Reich. But at least I knew she saw them as the bad guys rather than holding a grudge against me. (I had warned the kids from the start that some people would not like my being there. What was beautiful to me is that Part 2 came out while I was in Texas and the kids didn't feel right seeing it without me so they basically got their mom to come get me so we could see it together.)

Around this time (part 1) the 2010 World Series happened in which Frisco beat the Texas Rangers. As so many attribute God's blessing to why they win (makes me wonder why coaches form strategies and athletes train if God is the one to thank, but I digress) I walked past some of the fundie neighbors, raised my hand in the Pentecostal manner, and danced a jig going by doing an impression of a Pentecostal as I went, "God loves gays, God loves hippies, the Giants beat Texas! WOO!" They thought I was being obnoxious. Still, I bet they'd had done worse than me in response if I handed "pro gay/anti-Christian" pamphlets to THEIR kids and then had their kids deliver the pamphlets to them so I don't give a **** what they think of my little mocking jig.

posted August 17, 2014 02:03 AM            

And today there are people still doing the same. Just one of the politicians (I'm sure there are at least a couple more) had this to say in defense of slavery which matches what my schools tried to get me to think:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/oshadavidson/2011/07/08/michele-bachmann-salute s-the-upside-to-slavery/

And I recall how they would do things like "celebrate" Black History month with a lecture and class projects (never any independent research, however) in backhanded ways, like GW Carver in real condescending, "Blacks can invent, too, why he made peanut butter! Isn't that special. Not exactly the light bulb, heh. In honor of black history month, what can we make with peanut butter?" And that was when racial minorities were part of the class...when they were not it was even more blatant. I'm pretty sure that was done on purpose with "plausible deniability" built into it so they could then say anyone who complained was being too sensitive (and use it as another lesson about those uppity blacks or whatever and adding it "good thing they don't have real problems to complain about instead").

I hear of that going on even today, for example serving watermelon for Black History Month.

For those of you who aren't American (or are but want to pretend you aren't aware of what's wrong with this) it's a very old negative racist stereotype. I ate watermelon a lot growing up but it wasn't unusual for someone (seems it was always guys) eating it to do an imitation of black people in a way that would get him punched in the mouth if there was anyone black around (perhaps especially if he'd been eating watermelon with us ) which would then sometimes lead to racist jokes. Sometimes I think it was just boys thinking they were being bad and "getting away with something," so I guess that's something (even if any adults hearing almost always let them get away with it and might even share their own jokes, my granny was one of the few who'd come down on them hard for that). Oh, yeah, watermelon was occasionally referred to as "bait." Actually, it was two words, I'll let you guess the first one. If you can't figure it out then look up "watermelon" on urban dictionary.

Much more importantly, insisting that black identity is defined by these things trivializes and undermines Black History Month in addition to reinforcing the stereotype in a backhanded way as my own school did.