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Topic: Davison and your little love story...
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18645 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 26, 2014 03:53 PM
A little oracle...The Davison chart, a metaphorical meeting between the two of you, in time and space, like your own common and exclusive time-space dimension, resembles, in one of its possible interpretations, a little film script of your love story. What better way to tell it than through the help of the Sabian Symbols? Just one of the possible interpretations: ASC - how it all begins IC - your shared cozy hidden secret DSC - how you are together MC - how they see you Sun - what this is all about Moon - the deepest you could feel Venus - how your love is Mars - how your bodies meet Mercury - the idea that holds you together Jupiter - your greatest chance Saturn - your fate together Pluto - this you will transform only together Uranus - what's unexpected Neptune - your shared dream SN - how you met NN - where you are headed and the asteroids important to you.
What is your story, what are your Sabians, do you relate? Coming back with mine.... IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30653 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 26, 2014 03:57 PM
I LOVE that idea! IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18645 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 26, 2014 04:05 PM
I'm gladIP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30653 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 26, 2014 04:26 PM
ASC - how it all begins An Ancient Bas-Relief Carved In Granite Remains A Witness To A Long-Forgotten CultureIt is so long ago, I hardly can recall the beginning. Maybe it never really had a beginning and was just in existence from the birth of the universe. But even if not, one thing is certain, it was so very long ago, maybe leading back into a culture that has long gone by now. "IC - your shared cozy hidden secret" A New Continent Rising Out Of The Ocean As I already said it is leading far far back in time, maybe even to a certain island? an ancient civilization? The secret is, we were there, when it was rising out of the floods. ""DSC - how you are together" A Very Old Man Facing A Vast Dark Space To The Northeast
Sirius. No our road certainly is not easy, but we have what it takes to go the distance. Even if it means we have to temporarily separate. "MC - how do they see you" A Parrot Repeats The Conversation He Has Overheard We represent a mirror, an echo to what is going on around us. "Sun - what this is all about" Through Bankruptcy, Society Gives To An Overburdened Individual The Opportunity To Begin Again
What this is all about is that the whole has to crash down so it can be rebuilt again. "Moon - the deepest you could feel" A Famous Singer Is Proving Her Virtuosity During An Operatic Performance
In Cancer in 7th house, the feelings reach pretty deep, but they need to be expressed creatively, and we feel the deepest when we can express ourselves and be applauded, appreciated for our virtuosity. In fact Sappho is in Cancer, too, on the DESC. Creative expression is a gateway to channel passion, a passion that might even be a reminder, an echo of these days and nights we shared in the garden of Gethsemane so long ago, and yet we can still hear the chirping around us, surrounded by the fragrance of Jasmine. (Mary and Jesse are conjunct in CAncer surrounding the DESC). "Venus - how your love is" A Young Couple Window Shopping
No matter how long we`ve known each other, how much we have shared in our soulhistory, our love always feels young, fresh and harmonious. It also feels sensual, physical and hot, being so closely entwined with Mars (2 degree conjunction) "Mars - how your bodies meet" A Red Cross Nurse
When our bodies meet, healing takes place. We are nurtured and healed through being close to each other. "Mercury - the idea that holds you together" Two Dutch Children Talking To Each Other, Exchanging Their Knowledge Our mind always stays fresh, alerted, curious, always new things to discover, to communicate and share. Sometimes it feels though as if we have a very own unique kind of communication, that other people canīt share nor understand. "Jupiter - your greatest chance" Two Chinese Men Converse In Their Native Tongue In An American City
Our communication, the idea that holds us together is our greatest chance (2 degrees conjunction).
"Saturn - your fate together" A Human Soul Seeking Opportunities For Outward Manifestation
in 7th house. We have to manifest *something* in reality, bringing our combned soul down to earth, anchor it in the Here and Now. "Pluto - this you will transform only together" Miners Are Surfacing From A Deep Coal Mine Together we dig deep, we are nto just scratching the surface, but have to go all the way down into the underground, the sub- and supraconscious. Even mroe so since Pluto is in the 8th house, psychologically we will leave no stone unturned. But we will come up again, hopefully enrichted by what we learned and transformed. "Uranus - what's unexpected" A Dentist At Work
We never expected it to get THAT serious, that drilling. And since Uranus oposes Mars (and Venus widely), we never even expected to be attracted to each other. This simply hit us sideways, like a real electric shock and vibration. "Neptune - your shared dream" The Ground Hog Looking For Its Shadow On Ground Hog Day
in the 11th house, opposing Mercury and Jupiter in 5th. Friendship is most likely one part of the dream, the free sharing of ideas but also love, aiming to dissolve the shadows. "SN - how did you last meet" The Gate To The Garden Of All Fulfilled Desires
conj. LUST and APHRODITE (Aphrodite also on that degree).
Oh yes, I recall it. In the garden Eden it was, and you can bet there were not a lot of clothes involved!
"NN - where you are going" A Child Giving Birds A Drink At A Fountain
We were enjoying ourselves extensively when we last met, so we are asked now to share ourselves with others, to nurture others. the ruler of our NN, Venus, conjuncts the ruler of the SN, Mars, in Taurus in 3rd house, it is time to bring together past and future.
EDIT: ISIS and OSIRIS 25-26 Leo exact, in 7th house , on Vertex Vertex: A Large Camel Is Seen Crossing A Vast And Forbidding Desert ISIS and OSIRIS: After The Heavy Storm, A Rainbow As I said the path will not be easy and long, some taboos have to be broken, some boundaries extended, but hopefully it will be worth it in the end.
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18645 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 26, 2014 04:39 PM
Awwww...I love your story, Ceri, and your interpretations - I can see your beautiful heart in them...there is so much love in your story! I can't believe that Moon, that Mercury, Isis and Osiris...it is already a myth, thank you so much for sharing! I wish you all the happiness in the world IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1764 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted May 26, 2014 04:58 PM
Same here, your story is as beautiful as you are.------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 26, 2014 05:03 PM
Ceri, you have a new crush?------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 6223 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 26, 2014 05:26 PM
Aww i love the chart ruler interpretation, its Mars conjunct Uranus and Vertex at 5 Libra and sab symbol reads :Mars: "A Man Watches His Ideals Taking A Concrete Form Before His Inner Vision". Bravo. Venus ( love): "A Veiled Prophet Speaks, Seized By The Power Of A God". Grrreat. South Node ( how you met) : " A volcanic eruption". Damn right. The 12th house North Node ( where you are headed) is: "In A Gigantic Tent, Villagers Witness A Spectacular Performance". WOW ASC is: "the Oriental Magic carpet " Cool, cool, cool BML: "An Indian Girl Introduces Her White Lover To Her Tribe". Love it. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18645 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 26, 2014 05:44 PM
ASC - how it all beginsA Man On A Magic Carpet Hovers Over A Large Area Of Land It all begins in the world of dreams, where we met before meeting. IC - your shared cozy hidden secret A Man Becoming Aware Of Nature Spirits And Normally Unseen Spiritual Agencies Shhh... but I'll tell you...we often meet in dreams where we play with the little greeeeen people hehehe IC conjunct Union DSC - how you are together Three Rose Windows In A Gothic Church, One Damaged By War One broken heart together, the other two remain in the light to show their colors. MC - how they see you A Church Bazaar Colorful, unexpected, playful, rich with ideas and games. Many things to offer. Sun - what this is all about Dancing Couples In A Harvest Festival Together, but in a dance with all. Completion. Sun conjunct Amor. Moon - the deepest you could feel On A Small Island Surrounded By The Vast Expanse Of The Sea, People Are Seen Living In Close Interaction Close, so close...Moon conjunct Pluto in composite, Moon conjunct Jupiter in Davison Venus - how your love is Head Covered With A Rakish Silk Hat, Muffled Against The Cold, A Man Braves A Storm There will be a long road, and a storm, but the rainbow will come after. Venus conjunct Karma. Mars - how your bodies meet A Middle-Aged Woman, Her Long Hair Flowing Over Her Shoulders And In A Braless Youthful Garment It takes a little time. Then, long-lasting and fantastic. Mars in Leo Minor Trine with Neptune and Pluto/Vesta. Mercury - the idea that holds you together A Very Old Man Facing A Vast Dark Space To The Northeast A trip around the world, into the unknown, with no chosen destination, just letting the world sharing its secrets with us. Mercury in 1st. Jupiter - your greatest chance An Easter Parade To share, to enjoy, to be reborn. Jupiter conjunct Juno. Saturn - your fate together Two Nature Spirits Dancing Under the Moonlight awww...Saturn conjunct ASC Pluto - this you will transform only together
A Man Revealing To His Students The Foundation Of An Inner Knowledge Upon Which A "New World" Could Be Built Together we can transform the world as we transform ourselves. Pluto in 4th. Uranus - what's unexpected A Butterfly With A Third Wing On Its Left Side Magic, transformation, creation, the unusual. A flight. Uranus in 5th trine Sun. Neptune - your shared dream
Within The Depths Of The Earth New Elements Are Being Formed Our dream changes continuously as we know each other and we discover how much we have dreamed about each other, since the beginning. Neptune square Jupiter. SN - how you met A Modern Cafeteria Displays An Abundance Of Food, Products Of Various Regions Actually, we met in his natal village, through a "third" wing ( a sister). We went to the local cafeteria for drinks which turned out to be eye-gazing SN in Gemini (I just can't believe this one!)
NN - where you are headed In An Old-Fashioned Northern Village Men Cut The Ice Of A Frozen Pond For Use During The Summer To a magical land... and we will work together. NN in Sag 6th.
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18645 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 26, 2014 05:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: Aww i love the chart ruler interpretation, its Mars conjunct Uranus and Vertex at 5 Libra and sab symbol reads :[b]Mars: "A Man Watches His Ideals Taking A Concrete Form Before His Inner Vision". Bravo. that's lovely!!
Venus ( love): "A Veiled Prophet Speaks, Seized By The Power Of A God". Grrreat.
you mean.. the Power of Love South Node ( how you met) : " A volcanic eruption". Damn right. lol was it Etna?
The 12th house North Node ( where you are headed) is: "In A Gigantic Tent, Villagers Witness A Spectacular Performance". WOW ASC is: "the Oriental Magic carpet " Cool, cool, cool What are you doing on my ASC????
BML: "An Indian Girl Introduces Her White Lover To Her Tribe". Love it.[/B]
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Delilah423 Knowflake Posts: 661 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 26, 2014 05:55 PM
Wow! What an amazing exercise. I'm still pondering, especially for some of the asteroids, but I'll be back later to read yours carefully and post mine. In the interim, I guess if I'm going to have to deal with Nessus and Dejanira in a chart, this might be the pair to have (I'm still giggling): Nessus: A Red Cross nurse. Dejanira: An unexpected thunderstorm. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18645 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 26, 2014 05:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by Delilah423:
Nessus: A Red Cross nurse. Dejanira: An unexpected thunderstorm.
looollll can't wait to see the rest! IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 6223 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 26, 2014 06:00 PM
LL, Hi, hun *waiving from my magic carpet as we are passing by yours" IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18645 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 26, 2014 06:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: LL, Hi, hun *waiving from my magic carpet as we are passing by yours"
Air traffic control! Houston!!!! We have a problem! She and her White Lover are following us !!!! IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 26, 2014 06:07 PM
Why the Davison?IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 6223 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 26, 2014 06:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Air traffic control! Houston!!!! We have a problem! She and her White Lover are following us !!!!
You are going down, lovely b***ch!! ..Along with your butterfly with three wings. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18645 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 26, 2014 06:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: Why the Davison?
Hi, Indigo, because of the little explanation in the OP. C'mon, show us yours!!! IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18645 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 26, 2014 06:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: You are going down, lovely b***ch!! ..Along with your butterfly with three wings.
After you, Indian Girl!!!! IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 6223 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 26, 2014 07:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: After you, Indian Girl!!!!
Why are you still talking? Hmm IP: Logged |
Delilah423 Knowflake Posts: 661 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 26, 2014 07:17 PM
I am dumbstruck by how so many of these resonate literally with me. I do not have the interpretative or word-smithing abilities of others in this thread, so I'm leaving most of them blank as I would just be repeating the Sabian. There are a few that puzzle me, so any comments or interpretations would be most welcome.The repeated themes of rebirth, regeneration and transformation, along with rest or calm after the storm are what we both hope for, and the reason we are together. Although we first met more than 20 years ago, we only got together late last summer. We are both tiptoing (in some ways) into the relationship because we have histories of broken relationships (he has been married several times, and I have never married). The repeated references to maturity and things old and ancient are also mindblowing because we are getting together quite late in life, and are fanatics about genealogy, culture, and history. We come from quite different ethnic/cultural/racial backgrounds, which may explain a few of the Sabians. ASC - how it all begins A Swimming Race [not sure I get this one at all????] IC - your shared cozy hidden secret An Easter Sunrise Service Draws A Large Crowd DSC - how you are together A Master Instructing His Disciple [He is always trying to teach me things. I think it works both ways, but I may be a little more subtle in what and how I'm trying to teach him]. MC - how do they see you The Head Of A Robust Youth Changes Into That Of A Mature Thinker Sun - what this is all about A Nature Spirit Dancing In The Iridescent Mist Of A Waterfall Moon - the deepest you could feel An Old Sea Captain Rocking Himself On The Porch Of His Cottage Mercury - the idea that holds you together Two Lovebirds Sitting On A Fence And Singing Happily [we also have asteroid Karma here; how about that?] Venus - how your love is A Group Of People Outfitting A Large Canoe At The Start Of A Journey By Water Mars - how your bodies meet A Flag Is Seen Turning Into An Eagle Jupiter - your greatest chance An Ancient Bas-Relief Carved In Granite Remains A Witness To A Long-Forgotten Culture Saturn - your fate together A Merry-Go-Round [I'm not sure how I feel about this one. Thoughts?] Pluto - this you will transform only together The Storm Ended, All Nature Rejoices In Brilliant Sunshine Uranus - what's unexpected Through Bankruptcy, Society Gives To An Overburdened Individual The Opportunity To Begin Again Neptune - your shared dream After A Storm A Boat Landing Stands In Need Of Reconstruction SN - how you met A Crowded Sightseeing Bus On A City Street [not literally, but close] NN - where you are headed A Clear Mountain Stream Chiron: A Game Of Cricket Chariklo: Cupid Knocks At The Door Of A Human Heart [I'm including Chariklo because (1) she conjuncts my ASC exact in natal, (2) I believe Chiron is important in love stories, (3) although on adjacent degrees, Chiron and Chariklo conjunct in the Davison by 0.46, and (4) hello, she was Chiron's wife. The meaning for the Chariklo Sabian is obvious, but how would you interpret the Chiron Sabian in this context?] Eros: The Ground Hog Looking For Its Shadow On Ground Hog Day Psyche: Ten Logs Lie Under An Archway Leading To Darker Woods [These Eros and Psyche Sabians stump me. What could this be about? Perhaps that our relationship involves increasing our awareness of some of the darker, shadowy things in our psyches?] Isis: A Crystal Gazer Osiris and Amor: A Butterfly Emerging From A Chrysalis Ceres: In A Circus The Bareback Rider Displays Her Dangerous Skill Pallas: An Old Indian Woman Selling The Artifacts Of Her Tribe To Passerby Juno: An Empty Hammock Stretched Between Two Trees Vesta and Valentine: A Military Band Marches Noisily On Through The City Streets [I'm not sure whether to cringe or be happy about this one. If it means we're both going to prominently display our devotion and love for each other, that's not necessarily a bad thing, right?] Moira: A Large White Dove Bearing A Message Angel (and Parvarti): Two Chinese Men Converse In Their Native Tongue In An American City Siva: On A Ship The Sailors Lower An Old Flag And Raise A New One Kaali: The Garden Of The Tuileries In Paris [I have never understood this one, let alone be able to apply it to Kaali] Rudra: The Possibility For Man To Gain Experience At Two Levels Of Being Lust: An Ancient Pottery Bowl Filled With Fresh Violets [I think this one is lovely; it certainly explains how I think we both feel about our sexual relationship] Alma: A Large Woman's Hat With Streamers Blown By An East Wind [Thoughts on this one???] Aura and Atlantis: A Symbolical Battle Between "Swords" And "Torches" Spirit: A Woman, Fecundated By Her Own Spirit, Is "Great With Child" Nessus: A Red Cross Nurse Dejanira: An Unexpected Thunderstorm So, to summarize, I could use your help on understanding the above Sabians as you would apply them to ASC, Saturn, Chiron, Eros/Psyche, Vesta/Valentine, Kaali, and Alma.This would also be an interesting exercise to do with the Composite. I've done it partially before it dibs and drabs, but not so comprehensively. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 4120 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 27, 2014 12:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Hi, Indigo, because of the little explanation in the OP. C'mon, show us yours!!!
So because it's an actual date in time rather than the presented midpoints. Okay. Fair enough. That's an interesting notion. I was curious as to why the Davison would be chosen over the composite, but that does explain it. Since it's an actual date. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18645 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 27, 2014 05:58 AM
Hi, DelilahIt is mostly you who needs to meditate on those Sabians and see what comes to mind, because you're the one who knows and feels the relationship Sabians have different meanings for different people, because their story is different. Perhaps looking at Dane Rudhyar philosophical interpretation will help: http://www.mindfire.ca/An%20Astrological%20Mandala/An%20Astrological%20Mandal a%20-%20Contents.htm But I will try to give you my insight on those Sabians, see what it comes to mind:
ASC - how it all begins A Swimming Race Competition, being outside one's element, being in the right place at the right time, excitement Saturn - your fate together
A Merry-Go-Round that's a beautiful one for fate: The Wheel of Fortune, the spinning wheel of time, all over again, reunion, being stuck in a rut, joy time, reward, what goes up must come down etc. it could mean so many hings! Chiron: A Game Of Cricket fine skills, precision, acting in sync, physical healing Eros: The Ground Hog Looking For Its Shadow On Ground Hog Day Psyche: Ten Logs Lie Under An Archway Leading To Darker Woods Both speak to me about shadow and light, the integration of shadow. Vesta and Valentine: A Military Band Marches Noisily On Through The City Streets [I'm not sure whether to cringe or be happy about this one. If it means we're both going to prominently display our devotion and love for each other, that's not necessarily a bad thing, right?] I think this is it, yes. Kaali: The Garden Of The Tuileries In Paris aristocracy, wealth, art, fertile, past lives, refinement, beauty Alma: A Large Woman's Hat With Streamers Blown By An East Wind
This should tell you something about your common soul reunion, something involving East, streamers, wind
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tgem Moderator Posts: 4736 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted May 27, 2014 08:03 AM
I LOVE these stories!!! They are all sooooo great! LeeLoo your sabian for your sun in the Davison almost made me cry (Cusp and I have a thing for dancing together.). I love your threads LeeLoo...they're so fun to read and investigate. Ok, now I'm curious about mine. "I'll Be Back!!"IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18645 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 27, 2014 08:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: I LOVE these stories!!! They are all sooooo great! LeeLoo your sabian for your sun in the Davison almost made me cry (Cusp and I have a thing for dancing together.). I love your threads LeeLoo...they're so fun to read and investigate. Ok, now I'm curious about mine. "I'll Be Back!!"
thank you, tgem! Can't wait! IP: Logged |
Selene Knowflake Posts: 1431 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted May 27, 2014 08:18 AM
Me and Mr.UranusI will fill in the story later. ASC - how it all begins - Leo 24 Totally Concentrated Upon Inner Spiritual Attainment, A Man Is Sitting In A State Of Complete Neglect Of Bodily Appearance And Cleanliness
IC - your shared cozy hidden secret - Scorpio 8 A Calm Lake Bathed In Moonlight DSC - how you are together - Aquarius 24 A Man, Having Overcome His Passions, Teaches Deep Wisdom In Terms Of His Experience MC - how they see you - Taurus 8 A Sleigh On Land Uncovered By Snow Sun - what this is all about - Cancer 13 A Hand With A Prominent Thumb Is Held Out For Study Moon - the deepest you could feel - Libra 24 A Butterfly With A Third Wing On Its Left Side Venus - how your love is - Gemini 30 A Parade Of Bathing Beauties Before Large Beach Crowds Mars - how your bodies meet - Cancer 30 A Daughter of The American Revolution Mercury - the idea that holds you together - Cancer 12 A Chinese Woman Nursing A Baby Whose Aura Reveals Him To Be The Reincarnation Of A Great Teacher Jupiter - your greatest chance - Aries 27 Through Imagination A Lost Opportunity Is Regained Saturn - your fate together - Sagittarius 17 An Easter Sunrise Service Draws A Large Crowd Pluto - this you will transform only together Scorpio 8 A Calm Lake Bathed In Moonlight Uranus - what's unexpected - Sagittarius 24 A Bluebird Perched On The Gate Of A Cottage Neptune - your shared dream - Capricorn 7 In A Sunlit Home Domesticated Birds Sing Joyously SN - how you met - Libra 7 A Woman Feeding Chickens And Protecting Them From The Hawks NN - where you are headed Aries 7 A Man Succeeds In Expressing Himself Simultaneously In Two Realms Juno Pisces 7 Illumined By A Shaft Of Light, A Large Cross Lies On Rocks Surrounded By Sea Karma Cancer 8 A Group Of Rabbits Dressed in Human Clothes Walk As If On Parade Union Pisces 9 A Jockey Spurs His Horse, Intent On Outdistancing His Rivals IP: Logged | |