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next to neptune
Knowflake

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posted February 25, 2014 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to post again-again! But Now I got my boyfriends real TOB and would very much like if you took a look at our synastry and composite!
I think we have an interesting union, because our natal charts are so similar

Composite:

Synstry:

We both got pisces moon in 10th house and cancer ascendant! We both have venus in 5th house and a mutable mars… do you think we are actually a little bit TOO similar?:/

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Chryseis
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posted February 25, 2014 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the composite, I like the Jupiter to Moon from the 1st to the 10th, its a real winning aspect in terms of attraction and compatibility. Even with Chiron there, it is really good as it has a lot of comfort to it - like you really support each other emotionally.

I do not like the sensation off the Sun-Mercury conjunction to the planets around the DSC. Like one person never wanted to take the relationship that far. From the synastry and natals, for the guy, commitment was like in the far distant non-existent future. It seems like that they are perfectly taken with you, but then there is a large gap in expectations and motivations. He is happy in the relationship, you I think would like to get things on track to a formal commitment. So there is a massive disparity in aims. He is not in the mindset maturity wise for a committed relationship though he could take it on. Because you are so focused on it, I think you could burn out your interest with frustration. You want to have momentum going towards a more committed relationship and he just won't be answering and acting in accordance with what you will perceive as focused on the same goal. He could actually be a potentially life lasting relationship.

You seem to be not so committed as you think. I feel like you would want the pizazz and excitement and fuss and reputation of being on the road to marital commitment, however there is a sensation that it is really just the achievenment of it that you are after and you potentially could start affairs and dissipate in interest by about 8-10yrs. At the moment it is not quite realized, however, you will potentially be disappointed with his prospects. They might not quite measure up to the high mark that you will eventually be driving for. Its strange though, as it feels like you will continually raise the benchmark, you are ambitious and happy to be the power behind the throne - obligating and driving the guy forward - so that you can feel satisfied with your combined status and achievements - which for you would chiefly be how well you are coaching the guy to be successful.

You could have a great relationship, but you will potentially forget about love, or you will love on a reward basis.

The guy is not without his weaknesses either, which is not unlike any of us. In his favour, for you, he can potentially be successful and he can ride your perceived demands on him. He could come to a crisis of integrity a few times though. Examples of such are, that he may look outside the marriage for involvement as consolation and a kind of payback for the demanding high expectations atmosphere of the marriage. And secondly, he could secretly invest in something of his own or put money aside in attempt to gain a bit of security. The nature of the relationship will give him the message that if he doesn't do what you expect and continually drive on upward and successfully, you may ditch him and leave him with next to nothing.


This is of course only my view on things. He does feel like a genuine lovely guy and there is potential for a long lasting wonderful relationship but I think he would like to have more say in reaching both maturity and achievement under his own steam but with loving support. If he feels he has to become like a mindless robot to fulfil your goals he will become subversive.

Conversely, if you are able to gain your position of authority and control over every facet of your relationship and over him - it will be like a bottomless pit - you will never be satisfied as you will continually raise the bar.

If you don't get your way to be able to manage his success as if it was your own career and you were his personal life coach and task master, so yes, if you don't get to do that, you potentially will lose interest due to not being able to get your teeth into something.

I sound harsh, but remember it is not a definite that I would even be right. If it sounds like a possibility then I have looked for advice due to the nature of the dilemma.

It seems that generally you are very set in your ways, its your way or the highway - though most people would be oblivious of this and in fact it is only embryonic to you at the moment to be like this. Mostly everything would still be about fun and lightness. You have a stubborn barrier to shift in yourself - you refuse to take responsibility for your own success, that is why you would rather be the power behind the throne so it all rests on another's shoulders.

So the barrier, and how to shift it...the barrier is that you will not release money to pay for something - it could even be through an education scheme that you would have to pay back - but in your mind it would already be money that you do not want to release - again you would rather use another person and there resources - you do not want something accounted to you - you want to be free of expectations, the burden of having to reach the success you want etc. The advice is to start small, you need to nurture yourself into small achievable targets that don't 'cost' you too much. At present the image is that you have these scales whereby all achievement ideals, success etc is like this huge ten tonne weight on where the partner sits (it might modify with different person's however). And on your side your expectations that you have to try and deal with a things like, getting a scrapbook together, or making sure that this year you do send out half a dozen Christmas cards. Oh and you will give someone a lift for a few days while there car is broken down, if they do your tax for the year and maybe next year too.

So yes, the advice seems to be, to just start evening things up a little but in small manageable bits like do small attainments and pretty soon you will find you will have less of a punishing drive for a partner and more happiness rather than emptiness for yourself.

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starmoon
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posted February 25, 2014 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the synastry doesn't look too bad, so definitely a nice dating relationship. the composite is not so great. it does have the grand trine, but overall it's fraught with squares and oppositions, making it not great for long-term compatibility. the synastry looks like it has a venus square Saturn too, which can be binding, but can also come with some challenges and level of commitment not being the same between the partners. you both have a moon sign opposing your stellium; you'll be fairly similar in how you handle things and probably be good friends because of the shared ASC and favorable mercury positions. and of course you have a venus-mars conjunction which helps with attraction.

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posted February 26, 2014 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chryseis:
In the composite, I like the Jupiter to Moon from the 1st to the 10th, its a real winning aspect in terms of attraction and compatibility. Even with Chiron there, it is really good as it has a lot of comfort to it - like you really support each other emotionally.

I do not like the sensation off the Sun-Mercury conjunction to the planets around the DSC. Like one person never wanted to take the relationship that far. From the synastry and natals, for the guy, commitment was like in the far distant non-existent future. It seems like that they are perfectly taken with you, but then there is a large gap in expectations and motivations. He is happy in the relationship, you I think would like to get things on track to a formal commitment. So there is a massive disparity in aims. He is not in the mindset maturity wise for a committed relationship though he could take it on. Because you are so focused on it, I think you could burn out your interest with frustration. You want to have momentum going towards a more committed relationship and he just won't be answering and acting in accordance with what you will perceive as focused on the same goal. He could actually be a potentially life lasting relationship.

You seem to be not so committed as you think. I feel like you would want the pizazz and excitement and fuss and reputation of being on the road to marital commitment, however there is a sensation that it is really just the achievenment of it that you are after and you potentially could start affairs and dissipate in interest by about 8-10yrs. At the moment it is not quite realized, however, you will potentially be disappointed with his prospects. They might not quite measure up to the high mark that you will eventually be driving for. Its strange though, as it feels like you will continually raise the benchmark, you are ambitious and happy to be the power behind the throne - obligating and driving the guy forward - so that you can feel satisfied with your combined status and achievements - which for you would chiefly be how well you are coaching the guy to be successful.

You could have a great relationship, but you will potentially forget about love, or you will love on a reward basis.

The guy is not without his weaknesses either, which is not unlike any of us. In his favour, for you, he can potentially be successful and he can ride your perceived demands on him. He could come to a crisis of integrity a few times though. Examples of such are, that he may look outside the marriage for involvement as consolation and a kind of payback for the demanding high expectations atmosphere of the marriage. And secondly, he could secretly invest in something of his own or put money aside in attempt to gain a bit of security. The nature of the relationship will give him the message that if he doesn't do what you expect and continually drive on upward and successfully, you may ditch him and leave him with next to nothing.


This is of course only my view on things. He does feel like a genuine lovely guy and there is potential for a long lasting wonderful relationship but I think he would like to have more say in reaching both maturity and achievement under his own steam but with loving support. If he feels he has to become like a mindless robot to fulfil your goals he will become subversive.

Conversely, if you are able to gain your position of authority and control over every facet of your relationship and over him - it will be like a bottomless pit - you will never be satisfied as you will continually raise the bar.

If you don't get your way to be able to manage his success as if it was your own career and you were his personal life coach and task master, so yes, if you don't get to do that, you potentially will lose interest due to not being able to get your teeth into something.

I sound harsh, but remember it is not a definite that I would even be right. If it sounds like a possibility then I have looked for advice due to the nature of the dilemma.

It seems that generally you are very set in your ways, its your way or the highway - though most people would be oblivious of this and in fact it is only embryonic to you at the moment to be like this. Mostly everything would still be about fun and lightness. You have a stubborn barrier to shift in yourself - you refuse to take responsibility for your own success, that is why you would rather be the power behind the throne so it all rests on another's shoulders.

So the barrier, and how to shift it...the barrier is that you will not release money to pay for something - it could even be through an education scheme that you would have to pay back - but in your mind it would already be money that you do not want to release - again you would rather use another person and there resources - you do not want something accounted to you - you want to be free of expectations, the burden of having to reach the success you want etc. The advice is to start small, you need to nurture yourself into small achievable targets that don't 'cost' you too much. At present the image is that you have these scales whereby all achievement ideals, success etc is like this huge ten tonne weight on where the partner sits (it might modify with different person's however). And on your side your expectations that you have to try and deal with a things like, getting a scrapbook together, or making sure that this year you do send out half a dozen Christmas cards. Oh and you will give someone a lift for a few days while there car is broken down, if they do your tax for the year and maybe next year too.

So yes, the advice seems to be, to just start evening things up a little but in small manageable bits like do small attainments and pretty soon you will find you will have less of a punishing drive for a partner and more happiness rather than emptiness for yourself.


Wow, I really liked this interpretation! It's probably very spot on, even though you're probably also talking about these events long out in the future of our relationship, if it's even gonna last that long:P
I think it is my saturn squaring his sun that is the big problem… cause it's like no matter what I do (I mean, really) and no matter how much freedom I wan't him to believe he has, it's like he still see me as some kind of authority…
For an example if we are going to see each other to day, we will talk about it in the morning and then when it becomes evening he texts me to say that he isn't gonna make it in time, but will be there later. I don't mind at all, cause I actually like being alone the most of the time, so I'll just say "It's cool, you just go and do your thing", but it's like he still got a little bad conscience because he didn't make it in time…
And some of his big problems is exactly to hold his money… and I feel very ambivalent about this issue. Cause I don't need to be rich in life, and I really think that life should be about something else than money, but the truth is - you gotta have money if you wan't to live a peaceful life without problems constantly with the government, other people and all that. It's just important to have enough money to live for. And I work hard of taking my education, and he isn't going to take one ever I think. I don't mind, but maybe it's because I secretly wish that he is going to be an artist because he got so much potential. And maybe I can result in pushing him without I even realize it, because we need money to live for, and he got the potential to actually be something great.
So now I'm more aware of this than ever, and I will be careful of not pushing him to become something… after all it should be something he really wants to do himself, not something I can force him to do!
Another minor problem is the fact that we haven't talked about our relationship in any serious manner, though we are practically living together and cannot be apart for especially long time lol… I know personally that it's probably his longing for freedom that won't make him commit completely, but it makes me a little bit insecure yes… I've constantly tried to turn it down, cause he hasn't done anything wrong, and the fact that we practically live together and really have a good time, makes me believe a bit more in him.
But I think in the long therm, I could maybe disappear or find someone else, if he isn't gonna commit ever!
But right now I just love him and we have a good time, so why worry too much about it!

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Chryseis
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posted February 26, 2014 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your reply, next to

I often feel severe with my interpretations but I just read it as it comes and hope people are not devastated or affected negatively, I don't try to modify it to suit myself but try to read it as it presents itself to me.

Relationships confuse me, I have to admit. As said, I really like the composite Jupiter-Moon trine in mutual reception from the first to the 10th, its glorious and will go along way for tempering some of the hard aspects etc.

If you want to or are game enough, you can put up your Davison chart which is an option after composite on astro.com. I use the corrected option and it seems to work for me but I don't really know which is required out of the Davison options. I find that Davison will give a vibe of how involved a couple will be in terms of more commonplace everyday kind of stuff and whether or not there seems to be time spans and chapters to the relationship.

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posted March 19, 2014 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump.

And I just want to add: I'm the girl who is virgo, he is the libra

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Randall
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posted May 29, 2014 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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Yanmorg
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posted January 11, 2015 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chryseis, would you mind taking a look at my post? It's the post titled "Help me Please. I beg of you." It should be one of the first couple of topics in this section (Interpersonal Astrology).

I really took to the way you described next to neptune's charts. I could almost visualize the dynamics involved.

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Littleh
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posted January 11, 2015 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Littleh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry; sun isn't too far from venus, sun conjunct venus is one of the nicest aspects to have, very loving and romantic. Venus Mars as already mentioned, the attraction doesn't fade.

The composite has a love stellium sun, venus and libra which is very nice. I've read on here this is the best arrangement. Not sure how neptune on the descendant would play out. Squares from uranus and saturn are present but the love stellium would help make up for that. The venus saturn square could be binding, a bit of saturn isn't a bad thing.

I also share asc with someone in synastry and I also wondered if we are too similar. Interesting to hear starmoon's take on it; that could make for good friends..
Be grateful if someone could take a look at my post earlier today "Help terrible composite" ! I don't have the love stellium to balance out!!

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Littleh
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posted January 11, 2015 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Littleh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I meant the love stellium sun, venus mercury..in libra

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