posted February 06, 2014 03:35 PM            

I would say I'm fairly knowledgeable about astrology and chart readings (have done readings for others) but I haven't done it for a while, so wondered if anyone experienced in readings could give their interpretation of this composite chart (link at bottom of this post). It is between myself and someone who I loved deeply but I decided to end our contact because he never returned my feelings (or wasn't able to).

I can post more details (like the individual synastry, which shows my sun conjuncting his moon as well as many other strong trines, conjunctions and a few square aspects) but personally I go very much with the overall look of the composite chart when it comes to relationships. I have tried to interpret it myself and see great intensity in the Sun/Venus/Mercury/Pluto stellium. Also a strong Saturn influence on all these planets (trine aspected which probably tempers our relationship). I also see conflict between this stellium and the Mars/Jupiter (squared). My feeling with him was that we trusted each other completely, always had each other's back, I felt spiritually calm knowing he was in my life, but my love attraction feelings were more powerful than his and I found it difficult to get in touch with him on a love/emotional level. I know he really appreciates and respects me however. Anyway, your insights are appreciated. By the way I don't know his hour of birth so the houses are probably incorrect and the Ascendant/MC no doubt in the wrong position. Thanks.

These are the significant aspects as I see them:

sun conjunct venus, mercury, pluto in LIBRA
moon trine mars, jupiter
mars conjunct jupiter
mars square sun, mercury, venus, pluto
jupiter square sun, mercury, venus, pluto
neptune sextile sun, venus, mercury, saturn & pluto
saturn trine sun, mercury, venus, pluto
saturn square moon, uranus

posted February 06, 2014 04:02 PM            

And Pluto is in the 11th house?! SNOOZER!!

I will say that what's in the composite seems to matter less in my relationship than the synastry, but this just does. not. look.... appetizing.

Mars square Venus in my lil bit of experience spells a lack of passion.

posted February 06, 2014 04:12 PM            

It's like with us, we have the potential for great love but the Mars is killing it. lol

Oh by the way the houses are probably incorrect as I don't know his hour of birth/ascending sign.

posted February 06, 2014 04:23 PM            

Sun conjunct Venus in Libra is great for conflict resolution, IMO, but it's not particularly romantic. Neptune/Venus sextile is nice, too. Says compassion. I think if you did part, nobody would get hurt. Mars isn't doing you any favors. You're right about that, I think.

posted February 06, 2014 04:36 PM            

We've already parted and I've ended our contact a couple of times previously too because I was getting a little obsessed about him and didn't think it was healthy. On all those occasions we missed each other terribly. I could give you more details about the relationship but I think I just wanted input on the chart as it stands. Many thanks!

posted February 06, 2014 06:54 PM            

I can sometimes get an impression of a correction to the chart - but I doubt that I'd be fully right with it.

I can't be sure but I think the MC is basically opposite to what you have there roughly. And the stellium is in the 5th perhaps nearing the 6th but I think the 5th might end up being a smaller house than what it is in this chart you have here, because the 4th house doesn't feel that far from the stellium either.

The relationship feels restricted in terms of a fullness of relating. The reason for this is because something like a universal atonement/or vibration type thing is not of a high enough level in the relationship to resonate as a clinched relationship. Like the factors in your lives and fates do not coincide. It's like the dynamics of the relationship drops off from or comes up against a mile high stone wall. Image: a small robot that walks into a wall and keeps walking until the battery is flat because it can not surmount the wall or deviate from that point. So I guess an analogy would be "going nowhere" (and this probably coincides with Uranus being in the 6th and moon about 12 degrees off the DSC, ruler of these two planets - Pluto in the 5th - giving intensity/obsession but combust with the conjunction to the Sun). I think the 6th and the 12th are large houses.

I think the ASC is Gemini at what seems to be about 8*40 as a guess, and Neptune will be in the 7th. The Mars Jupiter conjunction is good but it seems to lend itself to high minded subjects or ideals and relating on a larger scale in terms of interests and connections. So yes, even though that seems to fit with the 9th house you have here in the composite, I think it is more closer to the 3rd. Is there a common interest in terms of some kind of large scale interest that has politics, economics, humanitarian aspects, with some interjection of ancient theories and touches on the metaphysical, it could even be films?

So if I am correct, I think you will find MC is Pisces, Neptune in 7th in Sag and Jupiter conjunct Mars in like the 3rd or maybe even late 2nd house (I think the first and 7th houses are also large).

So the relationship would be Neptunian in nature, so would have an emphasis on idealism, fantasy, dissolution, a certain level of deceptiveness and illusion.

posted February 06, 2014 07:39 PM            

Chryseis, what you say about the relationship being Neptunian I would definitely agree with, it’s a fairly spiritual connection between us (and yes we are both really into movies lol). I think there is a certain amount of idealism (on my part at least), which probably means I elevate him to this position I guess he can’t possibly live up to.

You're also right about the restrictiveness in relating. I try to assess the look of the chart as a whole and in our case it's very "onesided", ie, occuping one half of the chart, and although I think the connections are quite strong (and challenging) it's like we need balance in other areas. In fact it it took a third person to act as mediator to bring us back together last time because we just couldn’t communicate properly or were too proud too. I should add that there is a very big age gap between us (I am a lot older). And it does feel like it isn't progressing (as I’d like it to). Since he is a lot younger than me that probably isn't an issue for HIM but speaking for myself I guess I am looking for a life partner rather than a casual relationship.

posted February 06, 2014 08:08 PM            

me: dob: 9/18/64, London UK, 9.25am hour or birth
him: dob: 11/18/92, Paris, France, hour of birth unknown

posted February 07, 2014 03:41 AM            

I guess the only explanation that would make my idea of a Pisces MC correct is if your birthtime was incorrect, but you sound like you know that yours is right.

So I changed around the times and found for instance that if your birthtime was 6.56pm and his was 11.49pm then the ensuing chart is just about like I imagined. The 1st/7th and 6th/12th houses are bigger than the others. The planets are all in the houses, that I imagined, however there are discrepancies. I thought the 4th house and 6th house were sort of squeezing the 5th and that the 5th was small. It is a small house though, and perhaps when looking at the chart I can imagine the reason why there is the squeezing feeling of the 5th, because the rulers of the 4th, 5th and 6th are part of the stellium in the 5th.

I also thought that mars/Jupiter might be impacting the third but be more like late 2nd. In my possible chart, Mars and Jupiter are in the 2nd but not as close to the third as I thought. So the only explanation I could offer for this is that the nature of a mars Jupiter conjunction might have more of a zone of influence than normal due to the dynamism of Mars and the expansiveness of Jupiter.

Also, Saturn in Aquarius, which could be construed as, 'Age Difference' would be the most elevated planet in the composite which would stand out about your relationship.

And, Chiron in the 12th would be closely applying to the Ascendant. Which could suggest that the relationship could experience considerable pain through lack of acceptance.

Moon in the 6th would be trying to work out who was the boss, its a difficult placement. Uranus there would make it hard to have daily routines that coincide.

And then the issues mentioned by AriesLilith.

Anyway that is only if your time was incorrect. So if you are sure of your birthtime, then my idea of Neptune in the 7th and a Pisces MC would be - mere fantasy....

posted February 07, 2014 03:53 AM            

Thanks Chryseis for all the analysis though, I appreciate you putting in the time.

Weird really because we are sort of besties, will always have eachother's backs and I would always look out for him.

I came clean about the huge age difference. Perhaps I should also add that I could have had a child exactly the same month and year he was born (I lost it). Maybe that gave the relationship more significance for me. Obviously no good on a romantic level though, perhaps the feelings I had were more of a maternal nature.

Anyway I shall put it behind me. Thanks!