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Virgo1992
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posted May 27, 2014 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo1992     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have always thought that any conjunction between the sun and venus in a composite chart is a love stellium , and as i read on different thread on this forum about this subject i found out that not any conjunction could signify a love stellium , i'll give the example of my composite chart and someone i fell in love with recenlty and this was the result :

Is this a love stellium ? and if it's not can you give me an example of one ?

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posted May 27, 2014 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well mercury is not conjunct sun and venus so is not.

Everyone I have a"love stellium" is either a family member or friend..I think mercury in the stellium gives it a more family vibe to the connection.

In composite you can feel the hard aspects and conjunctions, the trines and sextiles are not as noticeable it seems when working w/ composite or not noticeable.

I would say you feel like your meeting was destined and the feelings are deep/intense. You two will transform your views by interacting with each other and how you see and experience love, you will always remember each other if you have a romantic relationship and part.

Do you two have nice vertex, NN or SN and psyche aspects in synastry in addition to venus/mars aspects?

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posted May 27, 2014 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo1992     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amelia28:

Do you two have nice vertex, NN or SN and psyche aspects in synastry in addition to venus/mars aspects?


Hmm , NOT REALLY ! his SN is conjunct My mercury and my NN is sextile his sun

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posted May 27, 2014 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amelia dear,
can you take a peek at this one please..here is Sun conjunct Mercury and Venus Mars..Is this the one ?
I cant get this "damn" man out of me head, like he bedevilled me.
I wait for it to pass, hi to leave my system, but its not happening ( grrrrr) .

Btw, hope you are still around ( thanks xx)

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posted May 27, 2014 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
neither one of these postings is a love stellium because the planets are not all conjunct to one another. the planets you are looking for in the stellium - sun/venus/mercury - would all share the same sign and be within a few degrees of one another. the first example does not include mercury, and in the second example the sun is in a different house position and sign than the venus, so they are clearly not conjunct. venus is conjunct to mars and sun is conjunct to mercury in your second example, but they are not conjunct to each other. no love stellium. but the second one is still a nice composite.

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posted May 27, 2014 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starmoon:
neither one of these postings is a love stellium because the planets are not all conjunct to one another. the planets you are looking for in the stellium - sun/venus/mercury - would all share the same sign and be within a few degrees of one another. the first example does not include mercury, and in the second example the sun is in a different house position and sign than the venus, so they are clearly not conjunct. venus is conjunct to mars and sun is conjunct to mercury in your second example, but they are not conjunct to each other. no love stellium. but the second one is still a nice composite.

Starmoon,
the two posts are not from the same person .
Mine is the second one cos i was wondering seeing SUN conjunct Mercury and Venus/Mars would that be the reason why I have such a strong connection with that man..I mean from the second we first talked it was like we knew each other forever. Very strange.
I am not talking here as teen talks about the first love encounter, no, I am 41 and have some experience, even marriage behind me, but I never experienced such a thing...like under spell, I cant explain.
Well thats why i thought maybe its the "guilt" of that love stellium and i finally discovered "whats up" with me and that ( grrrrr) man.

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posted May 27, 2014 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pocaloca:
Starmoon,
the two posts are not from the same person .
Mine is the second one cos i was wondering seeing SUN conjunct Mercury and Venus/Mars would that be the reason why I have such a strong connection with that man..I mean from the second we first talked it was like we knew each other forever. Very strange.
I am not talking here as teen talks about the first love encounter, no, I am 41 and have some experience, even marriage behind me, but I never experienced such a thing...like under spell, I cant explain.
Well thats why i thought maybe its the "guilt" of that love stellium and i finally discovered "whats up" with me and that ( grrrrr) man.

hi, yeah, I saw that they were from different people, but responded in one post. either way neither chart posting from you or the first person is a love stellium. if you are not in - or have never been in - a romantic relationship with this guy then you're better off looking at synastry charts to understand the pull you have to him. composite charts are (generally) for couples in romantic relationships already. a composite chart describes the relationship between two people once they form a partnership; it is how they come to be seen by others and how they interact as a couple. if you are just drawn in by someone that would likely stem from your own natal or some strong synastry factors.

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posted May 27, 2014 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well..
we are, were not just " fling" ..but the passions was to hot as well as power struggles so that we ended up in a big fight.
I would say we were a couple and the funny thing is that even though we are in " no talk" I feel totally connected to him and he is also " stalking " me as he recently showed me. So looks like he cant get over as well.

So you say according to this composite that we would, if things calm down, make a good couple? Its worth of try, giving up a pride etc..

We have in synastry exact ASC-DSC conjunction
DW VENUS TRINE MARS
PLUTO TRINE SUN
His MARS exactly conjunct MY ASC and LILITH
My VESTA lies on his ASC and conjuncts HIS Chiron
etc...
But we also have tight square MARS me PLUTO him..and..uhhh, let me tell you..TSUNAMI

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posted May 27, 2014 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pocaloca:
well..
we are, were not just " fling" ..but the passions was to hot as well as power struggles so that we ended up in a big fight.
I would say we were a couple and the funny thing is that even though we are in " no talk" I feel totally connected to him and he is also " stalking " me as he recently showed me. So looks like he cant get over as well.

So you say according to this composite that we would, if things calm down, make a good couple? Its worth of try, giving up a pride etc..

We have in synastry exact ASC-DSC conjunction
DW VENUS TRINE MARS
PLUTO TRINE SUN
His MARS exactly conjunct MY ASC and LILITH
My VESTA lies on his ASC and conjuncts HIS Chiron
etc...
But we also have tight square MARS me PLUTO him..and..uhhh, let me tell you..TSUNAMI


I'm more of a synastry hobbyist than a composite one, but even without a love stellium you can see that this is a very good composite. the conjunctions are favorable and in excellent houses, Saturn isn't afflicted, nothing 'dangerous' is sitting on an angle, and the sun is in the 7th, within 3 degrees of the DSC. the negative is the moon in the 12th but it does trine the venus/mars, so it's not unaspected.

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posted May 27, 2014 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Virgo1992:
Hmm , NOT REALLY ! his SN is conjunct My mercury and my NN is sextile his sun



What about sun/moon aspects?

I like your composite a lot but if there are no venus/mars aspects in synastry I would say that the attraction is not there although you two feel really comfortable around one another and have intimate deep conversations that get to the core.

I would say that this could be a long lasting committed friendship but the synastry has to confirm attraction for me to say this could be a big love.

Aspects between venus and mars are crucial but I personally think that trine double whammys are ideal or a trine and a sextile but oppositions, conjunctions and squares also create attraction. SN in synastry conjuncting venus or mars are great for attraction and it doesn't have to be super tight for you to feel this if you already have several venus/mars aspects IMO.

Aspects between the sun and moon and between the moons are very nice too, I feel they add depth to feelings but they are not a must as this could be made up by being blessed with other aspects...

But I feel venus/mars aspects you can't replace, they can be enhanced with other aspects but not replaced.

If you check relationships I have that are very fulfilling and even emotionally intense but have stayed always in friend zone you will notice that our venus and mars do not aspect each other in synastry.


Hope this helped answer things for you..

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posted May 27, 2014 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Starmoon
Would really love to have you once take a look at that synastry and tell me more and more and more
Btw, my VEnUs, SUN and MERCURY and is in the overlay in his 8th House and the MOON in the 5th..
Anyway we both have in the natal Moon in 12th so it would be kinda strange if our mutual moon would be somewhere else..ah, i dont know..better I switch him off again for a while I guess. I really fight and try not to think about that man but he simply pops up way to often and that drives me nuts.
Again, thank you dear xxx

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posted May 27, 2014 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pocaloca:
well..
we are, were not just " fling" ..but the passions was to hot as well as power struggles so that we ended up in a big fight.
I would say we were a couple and the funny thing is that even though we are in " no talk" I feel totally connected to him and he is also " stalking " me as he recently showed me. So looks like he cant get over as well.

So you say according to this composite that we would, if things calm down, make a good couple? Its worth of try, giving up a pride etc..

We have in synastry exact ASC-DSC conjunction
DW VENUS TRINE MARS
PLUTO TRINE SUN
His MARS exactly conjunct MY ASC and LILITH
My VESTA lies on his ASC and conjuncts HIS Chiron
etc...
But we also have tight square MARS me PLUTO him..and..uhhh, let me tell you..TSUNAMI


I love seeing you around too ! I hadn't seeing you in a while and was misssing you!

I learned you are a gemini and I am packed with mutable and have sag rising with gemini DC.

You have a DW venus/mars in synastry?? how wonderful!

Based on the synastry and I am sure there are probably other nice synastry aspects not mentioned Its clear there is a pull and attraction between you...

When looking at the composite since you are a gemini I could see how this can work out bec of the three planets in the 9th, that nice venus/mars conjunction in the 8th and that sun/mercury in the 7th.

There is plenty of adventure (3 planets in the 9th) and intellectual stimulation long term here (sun conjunct mercury in the 7th) which feeds your gemini need for diversity and to top it off the sex with those synastry aspects and the composite venus/mars conjunction in the 8th has to be AWESOME!

You guys have to talk and work it out

Lucky! haha

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posted May 27, 2014 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Amelia

Looks like I highjacked this tread but I understood its about stellium in composite so I asked, needed to.yeah, and I am kinda burning tonight as well
Sorry VIRGO 1992 <3

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posted May 27, 2014 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
I love seeing you around too ! I hadn't seeing you in a while and was misssing you!

I learned you are a gemini and I am packed with mutable and have sag rising with gemini DC.


My Gemini Stellim sits in your 7th probable and my VENUS and MARS in CANCER in your 8th...no wonder you find me irresistible ahahaha :*..I like you as well honey, you have something so kind and soft about you that I cant other then only feel very positive vibes when you are around.

BTW, did not know you are such an expert in interpersonal charts! I would love to show you the whole synastry together with composite ,(tell you about my struggles and hear your final opinion)..
As I say since that man appeared in my life I am like on damn drugs and since we dont talk, big fight some 3 month ago ( long time) I cant kick him out of my head..like voodoo..
I would see to post the charts for you in the, INTERP, when you have will and time to look at it carina.

KISS KISS

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posted May 27, 2014 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pocaloca:
My Gemini Stellium sits in your 7th probably and my VENUS and MARS in CANCER in your 8th...no wonder you find me irresistible ahahaha :*
KISS KISS

hahahhahaha


Yeah I would love to hear your story, process with you the different aspects and tell you what I think...

I would prefer you post up your natal and his natal and the composite...I would be a lot more useful this way.

Include juno, eros, *psyche, **vertex and asteroid Karma..


XOXO

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posted May 27, 2014 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay , we make tomorrow babe..
I would search for you, find you & post with @ , in the Interpersonal , tomorrow evening.
Btw, I need to hit the horizontal now cos its damn late here, early, in Europe and my head is fallin ..Thanks God, at lest I would stop thinking about him ahaha...**** , hopefully he does not visit me in my dreams ,as he does sometimes, though..

Buenas noches Chiquita *

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posted May 28, 2014 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo1992     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What about sun/moon aspects?

I like your composite a lot but if there are no venus/mars aspects in synastry I would say that the attraction is not there although you two feel really comfortable around one another and have intimate deep conversations that get to the core.

I would say that this could be a long lasting committed friendship but the synastry has to confirm attraction for me to say this could be a big love.

Aspects between venus and mars are crucial but I personally think that trine double whammys are ideal or a trine and a sextile but oppositions, conjunctions and squares also create attraction. SN in synastry conjuncting venus or mars are great for attraction and it doesn't have to be super tight for you to feel this if you already have several venus/mars aspects IMO.

Aspects between the sun and moon and between the moons are very nice too, I feel they add depth to feelings but they are not a must as this could be made up by being blessed with other aspects...

But I feel venus/mars aspects you can't replace, they can be enhanced with other aspects but not replaced.

If you check relationships I have that are very fulfilling and even emotionally intense but have stayed always in friend zone you will notice that our venus and mars do not aspect each other in synastry.


Hope this helped answer things for you..[/B]


My venus is trine his mars by sign , my Venus in Virgo and his Mars in Capricorn , i attached our synastry chart to make it easier for you amelia as you see there's a Kite in the composite and a YOD in synastry , maybe it's the reason why there's an attraction , i like our compo too but wish we had a sun moon conjunction thank you for answering my question about love stellium !!

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posted May 28, 2014 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo1992     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pocaloca:
Hi Amelia

Looks like I highjacked this tread but I understood its about stellium in composite so I asked, needed to.yeah, and I am kinda burning tonight as well
Sorry VIRGO 1992 <3



Oh it's ok dear feel free to express yourself and btw i mentionned before that i wantd to see an example of a love stellium , thank you sharing your compo !

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posted May 28, 2014 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pocaloca:

Buenas noches Chiquita *


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posted May 28, 2014 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Virgo1992:
My venus is trine his mars by sign , my Venus in Virgo and his Mars in Capricorn , i attached our synastry chart to make it easier for you amelia as you see there's a Kite in the composite and a YOD in synastry , maybe it's the reason why there's an attraction , i like our compo too but wish we had a sun moon conjunction thank you for answering my question about love stellium !!


I dont see a kite in the composite, what I see in your composite is a mystic rectangle but anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong about this but break it down as to why....

Mystic Triangle: This consists of four planets connected in a rectangle of two sextiles and two trines, together with two oppositions connecting the opposite planets. Despite the name there is nothing mystical about this pattern. The combination of tense and harmonious aspects produces the best possible potential for the constructive use of natural talents.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html

But like I said in composite trines and sextiles are not felt, only conjunctions, oppositions and squares...

Now in synastry I imagine that this would very amazing; any of the configurations in the link.

I am also not convinced there is a YOD in synastry..it seems to be half of a YOD based on link I provided.

What sticks out from the synastry is his moon conjunct your pluto in scorpio in your 8th squaring your saturn and chiron......

It looks like your sun/moon oppose his sun out sign? that can pull you together and the mars/venus conjunction by sign would probebly create some attraction but not very strong...

How far is his vertex from your venus???

It would be great if you post both of your natal charts and included eros, psyche, juno, karma, vertex and the nodes..

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posted May 28, 2014 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This would be a love stellium...tainted by Chiron and a square to the Moon..

Still one of the greatest loves of my life, though:

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posted May 28, 2014 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps trines and sextile are felt in composite if part of a mystic rectangle...!!! I could see how this would be an exception..pretty cool you have that.... give us a little background about the two of you..

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posted May 28, 2014 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you there amor ( @amelia28) ?

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posted May 28, 2014 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Are you there amor ( @amelia28) ?

Yes I am here!

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posted May 28, 2014 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay I am preparing the stuff I would post in INTERPERSONAL ...but detailed talk and so on we should have via e-mail darling booh <3
Trust me that I would not be surprised if that man stalks me and finds me somehow here. Yeah, sound like paranoia but ASC Scorp., Venus, Mars Scorp. ! Those dudes, if they want, do a lot undercover as you know ahahaha

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