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ProudLeo
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posted June 04, 2014 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone have any insight or guidance on this synastry chart? Any comments are welcome and greatly appreciated! Thank you!

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 04, 2014 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An astrotheme chart is too confusing for my eyes, personally I would prefer an astro.com chart.

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ProudLeo
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posted June 04, 2014 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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ProudLeo
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posted June 04, 2014 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe this one is better! Sorry about the busy chart. Any positive things seen here? Challenges? Thanks to any and all comments!

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posted June 04, 2014 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see lot of fights and power struggles and difficulties getting in tune with each other (aside from maybe good conversation). You both have very strong, intellectual placements and the sun/mercury opposition in leo/aqua is gonna be a tough one. you also have a venus opposition by sign, so i see a disconnect in emotional compatibility there. I like the moons and the libra mars together but it strikes me as a friendship; there isn't enough to make it a romance, imo. the house placements don't really support romance either, the blue person is probably more interested given that ASC conjunction and their own pluto influence

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IndigoDirae
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posted June 05, 2014 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not liking this, to be honest. It's rife with conflict.

PLUTO, SATURN, and MARS are not easily energies to integrate, and most of these are in conjunction. MARS conjunct PLUTO can be a powerful tie if both individuals are emotionally mature and honest with each other. Otherwise, it's a battleground: issues of jealousy, possessiveness, the battle for control and dominance, power struggles; bad things.

Namely, that MARS-PLUTO is conjunct SATURN-PLUTO in a 12H synastric overlay. This is the classic incidence where deep-seated resentments build way beneath the surface, until they explode, and very often in incidents of violence.

SATURN-PLUTO is the bomb, and MARS lights the fuse. You have to be EXTREMELY careful with a configuration like this; the potential for it to go very, very badly is high.

Here, the VENUS square to the other person's MARS is yet another conflict. As the natal MARS is 2H, this involves, again, issues of possessiveness and ownership.

This is repeated on the other side; with MARS square VENUS.

In either case, issues involving romance and relating are going to set off this dangerous configuration.

To top things off, MOON conjunct URANUS brings emotional volatility, fits and starts, and lacks stability.

SUN square URANUS furthers this sense of unpredictability and conflicts regarding independence, freedom, and what constitutes a framework.

And, I can't tell without degrees, but it appears that the other's MOON is either opposite, or quindecile, the PLUTO-MARS conjunction, and their natal SATURN-PLUTO-MARS.

Again, it returns to that configuration. It's prominently aspected throughout the synastry.

Of course, all things can be handled with enough love and maturity, but this is a VERY rough one. Clearly, the two of you have some very difficult karma to balance.

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posted June 05, 2014 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, VERY important.

Are any of the LIBRA placements at 19º ?

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posted June 05, 2014 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Pluto in libra at 19.44 for the blue

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posted June 05, 2014 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ProudLeo:
Yes Pluto in libra at 19.44 for the blue

Oh, dear. I was afraid of that.

Both of you are under threat of serious violence. I've yet to see a highly explosive synastry where 19º LIBRA was active that did not result in homicide.

You would need to watch the transits and progressions like a hawk to ensure that you're simply not around each other during those times, and put the rest of the time into anger management, couples counselling, and individual therapy.

I apologise for seeming alarmist, but this is something I have seen EVERY single time. I would rather be honest than optimistic.

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posted June 05, 2014 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe this one is better! Sorry about the busy chart. Any positive things seen here? Challenges? Thanks to any and all comments!

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posted June 05, 2014 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's crazy!! Are both of them possessive and jealous? Which is violent? I can't wrap my mind around seeing either if them in this light because I can't imagine either if them being that way!

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posted June 06, 2014 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ProudLeo:
That's crazy!! Are both of them possessive and jealous? Which is violent? I can't wrap my mind around seeing either if them in this light because I can't imagine either if them being that way!

Then you're dealing with two highly evolved souls who have learnt to channel and constructively use the intense energy.

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posted June 06, 2014 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it at all possible that the conflict could come from an outside source....I don't know enough about this to know if this is possible but I know the situation and there in a very jealous ex that has shown violent behaviors and tendencies and that has me wondering...

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posted June 07, 2014 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Then you're dealing with two highly evolved souls who have learnt to channel and constructively use the intense energy.

posted June 06, 2014 10:06 AM
Is it at all possible that the conflict could come from an outside source....I don't know enough about this to know if this is possible but I know the situation and there in a very jealous ex that has shown violent behaviors and tendencies and that has me wondering...
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posted June 07, 2014 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ProudLeo:
Is it at all possible that the conflict could come from an outside source....I don't know enough about this to know if this is possible but I know the situation and there in a very jealous ex that has shown violent behaviors and tendencies and that has me wondering...

No, that's internal. You're talking synastry; not progressions, or transits.

Perhaps they've channelled the violent energy into an edgy sexual relationship or very physically strenuous activity? It has to go somewhere.

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Selene
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posted June 07, 2014 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Then you're dealing with two highly evolved souls who have learnt to channel and constructively use the intense energy.

Why Libra 19 is so bad? My Sun is right there! I am not violent at all. Like i even can't hurt a fly, literally.

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