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Topic: Heliocentric synastry
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IntuitiveJ
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posted June 04, 2014 05:17 AM
  
Can someone explain a bit more about this to me?
Is it helio (tropical?) to helio?
Or helio to tropical natal?
Would someone's helio moon/earth on the others natal sun have significance?
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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 04, 2014 09:47 AM
I think all helio to natal, helio synastry and composite are significant. Sun Moon conjunction in those is definitely a nice aspect.IP: Logged |
mir
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posted June 04, 2014 11:37 AM
The most accurate comparison would be Helio to Helio (and the Composite Helio ofcourse).
Some say Geo to Helio is relevant,.. but for myself thinking about combining those 2 dimensions synastrically feels like comparing apples and oranges. Well, just think about what helio astrology actually IS..In the Heliocentric Zodiac, Earth/Moon is always in the opposite degree and sign of the Sun’s position in the Geocentric Tropical Zodiac.
So, you both would have your Suns in opposite signs. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted June 04, 2014 03:46 PM
Heliocentric chart is a persons Christ Consciousness and what their Christ self looks like. Comparing in synastry means how much a person can help you connect with Christ consciousness, which is a big deal and the point of being on earth.IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 04, 2014 04:10 PM
Well, yes, athenegoddess, but that would be for people believing in Christ. But I suppose those who have a different religion have Helios too.IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted June 04, 2014 04:12 PM
its not a belief. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted June 09, 2014 08:49 PM
Here is my helio composite with my ex:  Add:
We have Yod inside the MR and inside the YOD an opposition:  IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted June 09, 2014 08:55 PM
Higher Self does not have to be involved with religion.Don't lose something Worthy through bickering. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 09, 2014 09:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by athenegoddess:
its not a belief.
Meaning? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 09, 2014 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Here is my helio composite with my ex:
Nice Helio, Amelia! IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted June 09, 2014 09:10 PM
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IndigoDirae
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posted June 10, 2014 02:03 AM
Ceri! Oh, Goddess of the Helio! You are being hailed!Ceri really has the best understanding and perspective on Helio. She's taught me most of what I know of it. IP: Logged |
mir
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posted June 10, 2014 09:16 AM
Wow amelia!!
Well I thought WE had an interesting helio C.
But this .... THIS is pure art (also)! I've never ever seen this.. well, NOT in Helio.
You're friends now? Friends till the end of time I guess? Is that acceptable? really?
Here's our Helio C. Art.....
Not bad either ha? [IMG]http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy164/idoruutje/21c894f8-958 2-48d3-a32a-9ae96e5ac4f0_zpsf4e99e5e.gif[/IMG]
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amelia28
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posted June 10, 2014 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by mir:
Wow amelia!!
Well I thought WE had an interesting helio C.
But this .... THIS is pure art (also)! I've never ever seen this.. well, NOT in Helio.
You're friends now? Friends till the end of time I guess? Is that acceptable? really?
Here's our Helio C. Art.....
Not bad either ha? [IMG]http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy164/idoruutje/21c894f8-958 2-48d3-a32a-9ae96e5ac4f0_zpsf4e99e5e.gif[/IMG]
Wow love it, looks VERY nice..... If you notice my helio composite with my ex and its solid mystic rectangle you will notice two things deviating from the rectangle: jupiter and chiron both in a feminine sign. Chiron is deviating the rectangle and inconjuncting our composite venus.
So the two things that are out of place are jupiter and chiron and jupiter opposes my natal geo tropic juno exact and chiron which inconjuncts our venus helio composite also conjuncts my husband's natal geo tropic AC exact.
In other words my husband and my commitment to him is why this mystic rectangle is not absolutely perfect and why ultimately we didn't end up getting back together.
I have a composite Geo Tropic Yod with both my husband and my ex so its hard to leave one for the other, not that he is asking me to but I am just trying to explain how it feels like...I dont have a helio mystic rectangle with my husband though, we have a helio composite tsquare...
Now another thing that is on my mind are TF and mystic rectangles and the thing is that mystic rectangles can be either feminine or masculine...
Your composite helio and my composite helio are both masculine athough natally my sun and moon are feminine but my venus/mars are masculine and my ex also has his sun/moon feminine and his venus/mars masculine. My husband has sun masculine, moon feminine, venus masculine and mars feminine. I am thinking that perhaps a good TF composite would be a grand cross involving two masculine planets/corners and two feminine planets/corners...OR NOT.. What do you think about mystic rectangle and Twin Flames?
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athenegoddess
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posted June 10, 2014 11:17 PM
it says on astro.com 'please only select the options below if you know what you are doing'...
first.. don't check heliocentric synastry unless you check your natal chart with your own helio. if there aren't any conjunctions do not proceed further. if you have any conjunctions... then first be more concerned with your own self; your evolution! see what the conjunctions mean.. how do they manifest? how does your higher self communicate with you. mediate on it.
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mir
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posted June 11, 2014 08:59 AM
Thank you Amelia but unfortunately I'm not the right person to ask about Twin souls and all that stuff as I don't believe in it ... but well yea I DO believe those composite mystical rectangles (as strong as yours) generate something very special between the both.. something not to deny at the least  I've experienced a strong MR myself (in Geo) and Orange has it with her most significant other also in Geo.. once seeing one I'll never forget... but I will never say or think that Helio is LESS significant than Geo .. after observing the heliocentric sky from a astronomic perspective I would rather say the opposite... it just feels more pure & accurate considering all planets revolving around the sun.. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted June 11, 2014 09:17 AM
athenegoddess:Interesting you posted your last message which is basically telling me to ignore the composite with my ex at 11:17 which is his birthdate LOL. That number follows me everywhere; even when I am not thinking of him... My Helio moon does conjunct my geo tropic moon and opposes my geo tropic sun. Also Helio uranus conjuncts cazime (almost exact '13) my geo natal Ascendant. OHH and I HAVE A KITE IN HELIO PLUS 2 YODS and 2 GRAND TRINES....
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amelia28
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posted June 11, 2014 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by mir:
Thank you Amelia but unfortunately I'm not the right person to ask about Twin souls and all that stuff as I don't believe in it ... but well yea I DO believe those composite mystical rectangles (as strong as yours) generate something very special between the both.. something not to deny at the least I've experienced a strong MR myself (in Geo) and Orange has it with her most significant other also in Geo.. once seeing one I'll never forget... but I will never say or think that Helio is LESS significant than Geo .. after observing the heliocentric sky from a astronomic perspective I would rather say the opposite... it just feels more pure & accurate considering all planets revolving around the sun..
I do think helio is very important perhaps even more than geo but it may not seem that way to a lot of people bc there is not a lot of information online on it so people can't really study it well but you are right the fact that it revolves around the sun I feel makes it very important and the more info on it that becomes accessible the more this will become evident... I agree that MR are powerful and they definitely got my attention; they just look spiritual you know and the most impacting soul to soul connection I have had is with my ex I have this MR with him! I adore my husband and we have a strong bond as well but it feels more like earthbound with him, like a good partner here on earth or a karmic relationship that is finally resolving itself and becoming more than that but he is not someone that transcends an earth connection; with my ex it feels like a soul to soul thing which manifested itself into reality but we were too young to handle the energy well and we both have karma with other people to work out; that is how it feels like to me. I dont know if TF exist, I think they might but I am not 100% sure so I respect were you are coming from.... I usually go back and forth in reference to my beliefs about past lives but lately I feel I am sticking with that belief for good now. There is something to it. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted June 11, 2014 05:33 PM
but the heliocentric chart and synastry doesn't matter if the two people aren't awake to their higher self.. so looking at it makes no sense.the conjunctions have to be from helio to tropical.
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mir
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posted June 11, 2014 06:18 PM
Ok Athenegodess.. so what are you trying to say? That people without any natal geo-helio conjunctions are not even capable to find their higher self?Pardon me, but I smell poppycock. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted June 11, 2014 06:22 PM
I'm saying that if there aren't any conjunctions from tropical to helio than the person isn't likely to care about their higher self. They will not care to be aware of a higher energy.
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mir
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posted June 11, 2014 06:23 PM
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I do think helio is very important perhaps even more than geo but it may not seem that way to a lot of people bc there is not a lot of information online on it so people can't really study it well but you are right the fact that it revolves around the sun I feel makes it very important and the more info on it that becomes accessible the more this will become evident...
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MorpHnStorM
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posted June 11, 2014 06:29 PM
I definitely think helio is important. It's definitely a stand out with my "TF" and I. I don't know about helio to natal synastric comparisons though. Not sure how much sense that makes...Here are a couple of composites of "TF" and I:   IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted June 11, 2014 06:46 PM
AS example.The solar eclipse in early 2011 was at 13 Capricorn... my heliocentric Mars is at 13 Capricorn, and my Natal IC is at 13 Capricorn. I had an intense awakening to my higher self. well my moon/Neptune is at 8 Capricorn too. Tropical is our human self... Heliocentric is our perfect self and the gifts we have accumulated... conjunctions between them show how your divine self comes into contact with little ol human self. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted June 11, 2014 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
I definitely think helio is important. It's definitely a stand out with my "TF" and I. I don't know about helio to natal synastric comparisons though. Not sure how much sense that makes...Here are a couple of composites of "TF" and I:
WOW....THANKS FOR SHARING....SO PERHAPS I AM ON TO SOMETHING WITH MY GRAND CROSS HELIO THEORY AND TF. I SEE ONE HAS A GRAND CROSS IN ADDITION AND OTHER HAS A MYSTIC RECTANGLE AS WELL.
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