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Dancing Maenad
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posted June 15, 2014 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's been 2 years I think. We met in a sexual type of cyberspace but never in real life. We had a falling out about a year and a half ago and stopped talking for a whole year. The falling out was because we finally decided to try something but he chickened out and never showed up so I was p!ssed. He continued to text and send various messages but I didn't respond until this March, when I finally got over it. He seems to have fixated on me, also in a bit of a romantic way - not that I think he's in love with me but maybe he would have wanted to be. As for me.. I don't think I was too interested in him, and I am not too interested now either. But I am also not interested in anyone, regardless how handsome (and he is, btw - will not deny that I am somewhat attracted). It was and still is a strange time for me, after all my romantic disappointments, a big part of me doesn't want to get interested again.

However though.. we've been through quite a bit and managed to move past it, there was drama but all relationships have some and we overcame it eventually and with maturity, I think; we talk extensively about a wide range of things and I like how he thinks. I would say we're friends now. He's smart, educated, pretty damn sexy, puts me on a pedestal and likes my kind of kink. I started to think maybe I should give it a try?? For a relationship, I mean - he does want one with me, he told me. I look at the charts and some days I think there's potential, other days nothing special.

I need some objectivity here. The birth times are known and as accurate as I could get from a layman re astrology


Kind thanks in advance!



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Dancing Maenad
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posted June 15, 2014 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just looked at the progressed composite and charts and his Sun is coming in opposition to my natal Venus.. Oh boy.


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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 15, 2014 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, DM

I'd give you my opinion, but lately I decided to refrain from astrological opinions on charts with relationships that haven't developed yet, I'd rather look at charts of relationships already in place, preferably after some time, if people want to improve those or understand where the problems come from. The charts I usually study are long-term relationships anyway. More and more, I think it's rather a bad idea to start a relationship with preconceived astrological opinions. It is true though, us astrology lovers can't help it However, if you insist, I can give you my opinion, especially for you

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Dancing Maenad
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posted June 15, 2014 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand, LeeLoo. I will take it with a grain of salt. I would love to hear your opinion.

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posted June 15, 2014 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don`t let a chance pass.

The worst thing you can say later on is: IF ONLY.

I know. I learned it the hard way this last week.

It`s too late now for me, but if you have the chance and if you feel *something*, give it a try. It might work out, or not, but at least you will not have to say: If only later on.


So this song I was reminded of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thf1uuRbOf8

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posted June 15, 2014 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for page one     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hi, DM

I'd give you my opinion, but lately I decided to refrain from astrological opinions on charts with relationships that haven't developed yet, I'd rather look at charts of relationships already in place, preferably after some time, if people want to improve those or understand where the problems come from. The charts I usually study are long-term relationships anyway. More and more, I think it's rather a bad idea to start a relationship with preconceived astrological opinions.


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posted June 15, 2014 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, page one

I'll do this one for DM

Give it a try, Meanad..it looks good. I would have liked his Mars to be aligned with your Venus, but a Leo Mars in your 7th and your interception is good for you. The only thing problematic here is the Yod empowering his ASC/Uranus, still what I like there is your proactive angles aligned. People always move towards their proactive angles and you seem to move together. A bit more on the nodes would have been better and one never knows how Moon square Uranus connected to Vertex and Mercury plays out - maybe moving abroad or exploring the world?? at its best But the charts are not bad...

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Dancing Maenad
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posted June 15, 2014 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But they are not too good, either.. Thank you, LeeLoo for your input! To be honest, I do not know what is holding me back, whether it has to do with him or with me. But I am 4 days to Jupiter conj DC and I guess maybe I am feeling optimistic for a change. The fact that this connection has lasted as much as it did and managed to overcome some challenges... that is what makes me want to give it a try. It is not some overwhelming romance (not yet, anyway, in all honesty I never truly gave it a worthy chance, I always thought it will never go anywhere) and it is not sweeping me off my feet - for a change, I am happy about that, I need my feet on the ground. I always assumed it was just about the sex thing, which never happened, lol, because comp Venus is conj his Mars.. but he surprised me and had something deeper in mind. Heh, still, I am bit detached and prefer to stay that way. I don't think we're soulmates and I couldn't care less who is and who isn't my soulmate anymore. But it feels like there is something there worth exploring, maybe. I needed some validation about that I guess.

So, we're going out tomorrow. Time to put those fire planets to good use and just do it already. I don't even care it's Mercury retro, the hell with all the planning and finding the right moment. The right moment is now.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted June 15, 2014 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
one never knows how Moon square Uranus connected to Vertex and Mercury plays out

That composite Moon happens to be just a wee wide conjunct my Sun/Moon midpoint, which is Aqua 22-ish.

I guess it will be interesting to see how it pans out, Moon being the intercepted ruler of DC and all.. Maybe we'll get married on a whim, I wouldn't put it past me.

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posted June 15, 2014 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Don`t let a chance pass.

The worst thing you can say later on is: IF ONLY.

I know. I learned it the hard way this last week.

It`s too late now for me, but if you have the chance and if you feel *something*, give it a try. It might work out, or not, but at least you will not have to say: If only later on.


So this song I was reminded of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thf1uuRbOf8


I took your advice and set a date for tomorrow! Fire women

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IndigoDirae
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posted June 15, 2014 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, here I come with the bucket. Brace yourselves. The water's pretty icy.

A few things:

• SUN conjunct MOON in synastry
• both being SUN conjunct LUST natally

These are factors driving you to relate. But the Internet is not your friend in this capacity. SUN-LUST types can't be boxed in; they can't be limited.

There are some interesting synastric aspects which could be a very nice interaction -- if it weren't approached this way.

Now. Reality.

He seems to be old enough to know better than to play this game. Way too old. He's a bit older than me -- and that's old enough to behave differently.

Now I've heard the wide range; the professed litany.

Oh, my childhood!
Oh, my anxiety!
Oh, my fear of abandonment!
Oh, my inability to commit for fear of [the above]

The truth is, you don't need this. Period. And you should probably ask yourself why you were --- nevermind. I know what site you were on. Ohhhh. Okay.

Oh, honey, them boys ALL screwed up. And, if you're looking for one with which to get your kink on? Keep looking. Local groups. (And get references. If you don't, you'll wish you had. The legit ones provide them.)

But all the hot synastry in the world won't get a man to act like a friggin' man and not whatever he's being.

He's probably a love addict, and you were right to kick him to the curb. No harm, no foul. No regrets, either.

Now, if you want analyse What Went Wrong, I'd like to look at PRIAPUS (h22), BML, NESSUS and DEJANIRA (157). Those can show a whole other side to a story.

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posted June 15, 2014 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
But they are not too good, either.. Thank you, LeeLoo for your input! To be honest, I do not know what is holding me back, whether it has to do with him or with me. But I am 4 days to Jupiter conj DC and I guess maybe I am feeling optimistic for a change. The fact that this connection has lasted as much as it did and managed to overcome some challenges... that is what makes me want to give it a try. It is not some overwhelming romance (not yet, anyway, in all honesty I never truly gave it a worthy chance, I always thought it will never go anywhere) and it is not sweeping me off my feet - for a change, I am happy about that, I need my feet on the ground. I don't think we're soulmates and I couldn't care less who is and who isn't my soulmate anymore. But it feels like there is something there worth exploring, maybe. I needed some validation about that I guess.

So, we're going out tomorrow. Time to put those fire planets to good use and just do it already. I don't even care it's Mercury retro, the hell with all the planning and finding the right moment. The right moment is now.


I didn't see this part. So, he IS finally meeting you? And is it a traditional date or are you attending a party together or ... otherwise? I'm curious, because there's astrology -- and there's common sense psychology. The two don't always intersect, and these men are my business (as a therapist).

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posted June 15, 2014 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually ... let's first see if he shows. I hope he does! In my heart of hearts! He's sure as hell old enough to not be playing THIS old tired game!

Good luck, Maenad!

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Dancing Maenad
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posted June 15, 2014 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is a traditional date - for coffee. And it is too soon to tell if he is actually gonna show up this time, lol. I'll tell you tomorrow.

I am not looking to get my kink on right now. I am not active and have not been active that way since then. My issues prevent going into it too deeply. And funny you should mention, he's a therapist too! Not mine, obviously lol.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted June 15, 2014 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Actually ... let's first see if he shows. I hope he does! In my heart of hearts! He's sure as hell old enough to not be playing THIS old tired game!

Good luck, Maenad!


I think so too.. but I will refrain from making predictions.

I will tell you this much though - I wouldn't be giving him a second chance, which I rarely do, if I wouldn't think he has earned it. He explained why he bailed out, we talked about that in detail and he was very open and even vulnerable. I still didn't budge for a long while though he kept on hanging on - I never understood why though.

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posted June 15, 2014 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
It is a traditional date - for coffee. And it is too soon to tell if he is actually gonna show up this time, lol. I'll tell you tomorrow.

I am not looking to get my kink on right now. I am not active and have not been active that way since then. My issues prevent going into it too deeply. And funny you should mention, he's a therapist too! Not mine, obviously lol.


A kink therapist -- okay, that's a coin flip. I've met some fantastic ones, and some ... less than. My own issues halted me in my tracks, too. But they needed to. If you ever need to talk to someone, I hand pick who I'll just talk to, but, hey, we're both astrologers, so that's kind of a wash.

I hope it works out. I'm alarmed it took him THIS long to meet you.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted June 15, 2014 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's not a kink therapist, he's a kinky regular therapist

Well not to sound like I defend him now, but the long part was because I refused to answer his messages for more than a year. :/ We reconnected about 3 months ago and things picked up nicely, we talked things through etc, but it was too recent after the end of my engagement and then I left the country for an internship. Now that I am back, we're gonna meet. Fingers crossed lmao!

Thank you for the offer to talk! Are you sure you know what you're getting into? lol jk I will email you one of these days.

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posted June 15, 2014 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
I think so too.. but I will refrain from making predictions.

I will tell you this much though - I wouldn't be giving him a second chance, which I rarely do, if I wouldn't think he has earned it. He explained why he bailed out, we talked about that in detail and he was very open and even vulnerable. I still didn't budge for a long while though he kept on hanging on - I never understood why though.


A therapist...so that's what the comp Mercury square was about, I was wondering about that one A therapist is good, they take people seriously, either they like it or not Good luck, Maenad...and have fun! If it's not him, it will be another, with your Jupiter on your DSC (thanks for reminding me, BTW, your DSC is...mine

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posted June 15, 2014 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol, LeeLoo! Thank you and let's both enjoy Jupiter through the 7th!

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Dancing Maenad
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posted June 15, 2014 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw, he doesn't have Sun conj Lust, it is too wide in his chart (Lust 4 deg, Sun 12 deg Libra) - but I do (and Pholus and Eris and etc - bring it on! lol).

I'll bite on the dark 'steroid synastry though. Here it is!


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LucieLemonade
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posted June 15, 2014 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with LeeLou (as ususal. ) and I've stopped looking at the chart of my new prospect because I freak out over potential issues that haven't even appeared yet. Even the transits say that we could be getting on each others nerves on days and we don't.

So, ignore the astrology for now and just see where it goes. Take your time and let things develop. I know it's difficult when we have previous disappointments. Just be you. The real you and if it's going to happen it will.

Now, having said all that whenever I get someone's sun opp my Venus I'm toast! LOL Major crushes have happened that way. Though sadly for me they are only ever just crushes.

Good luck, girl!

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posted June 15, 2014 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon, Nodes and Anti-Vertex on one end.

Sun/Moon on the other.

Interesting.

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posted June 15, 2014 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops, Neptune as well.

Is that on the Galactic somethingorother?

South Node, Anti-Vertex and Neptune/Moon on that?

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Dancing Maenad
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posted June 16, 2014 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am postponing for tomorrow, lol. Something came up on my part and I like tomorrow's planets more.

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posted June 17, 2014 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soo.. he bailed out again.

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