posted June 22, 2014 02:36 AM            

I have two houses in libra in our composite: the 12th house followed by the first house in libra at 29 degrees.

Any ideas on what this can mean?

posted June 22, 2014 08:43 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I consider the interception in a composite as a sign that the couple can be very intimate and have an area they only share with each other, related to that house/sign/planets/aspects there. They can be a more private couple who like to be with each other in that area.

Here the interception is on 1st/7th axis both by sign and house - I guess it could mean the whole relationship is very private. What the house emphasis in this composite (Sun, stellium etc.)?

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Our focus is in the 12th and 11th but we have chiron in the 7th and jupiter in the 1st.......That would mean an intercepted jupiter and chiron??? This is a meaningful past relationship and our relationship was not a secret; I knew his family and he knew mine. His family liked me and my family did not like him a lot, well my mom and sister. My friends knew him and I knew his friends; we talked about marriage even...I am trying to understand all the different elements of our connection that made it strong but also understand the elements that contributed it to us ruining a good thing other than been too young.....

The interceptions, chiron in the 7th involved in a YOD and also opposing uranus are things I want to understand more...

Things interceptions are karmic I figured it meant something as what karma we have to work out....

posted June 22, 2014 10:16 PM            

The fact your stellium is in the 12H, AND intercepted ... it's strange, but I'm getting more of a Soulmate impression. I'm not sure what the intercepted 12H means here, as Lee's delineation makes the most sense. Let's look more at the interplay.

29° LIBRA rising; something is ending. Whether it means it's transforming -- taking a new shape -- or concluding, we have to look at VENUS.

She's 11H, showing there are high social ideals -- a sense of community, with universal brotherhood and friendship at its base. VENUS here tends I denote membership in a larger organisation or group, or belonging to a cause. I've seen activists have VENUS here.

So we might say you were fighting for a cause that's concluding, or your 'membership' is ending. Whatever this sense of belonging is.

She's trine 7H CHIRON and loosely square JUNO. This shows likely wounding from the bonds of relationship; what commitment means; issues of equality. 9H JUNO inclines me to think there was some sense of religious or cultural backlash; someone felt the relationship was going against a sort of tradition.

The relationship itself definitely had a beautiful sense of healing about it. The one issue there was a fluidity of values (2H NEPTUNE); a feeling that the basis for your healing lacked solid structure or footing.

That's tough, being the 5R, and where the MOON is placed, IN the sign it rules (PISCES). It was important to the emotional equilibrium that this stability be present. 2H NEP can also create an instability of finances and other resources. There's a sense of never really knowing when you'll have enough and when you won't.

5H MOON in PISCES also shows a wonderful ability to create, dream, and contemplate. Did you create art together? I thought you said you had. This is a wonderful placement for it. The 2H placement of NEPTUNE shows it was the foundation for a lot.

Now, the other VENUS linked house is 12H, as you said.

When I see 1H and 12H linked, I know that the two MUST resolve their psychological baggage, as this relationship will absolutely sink or swim based upon that success or failure. They will be confronted with it constantly; it's an undercurrent. Of course, it can go smoothly -- or not.

So all of these gifts and deficits that VENUS has are also representative of 12H. And that's the focus of the composite: psychological issues, past events, and potentially, karma.

Since we have KARMA here, it's clearly about clearing karma from other lives. The two are definitely here to balance these debts between them (which will be shown in the synastry).

KARMA has EROS and UNION. That's self-explanatory; this is soulmate karma: there are unresolved issues, potential betrayals, and the sort of things that gut one's soul here. The UNION was formed in an effort to manage these debts.

My guess would be former committed partners who were either forced apart before the relationship ran its course, or had betrayed their bonds in some form. The square to JUNO from VENUS (12R) indicates the necessity to resolve this through relationship and commitment.

I always look to the SUN to show me the 'heart of the matter'. While it's not conjunct these three, it is 12H, and closely conjunct PLUTO and MARS.

This is intense energy. This is why I say there are likely betrayals, attempts to dominate and control the other. These have to be resolved now. (The one who most easily taps into this stellium will feel they are most in control; usually by conjunction or hard aspect.) If both do, it will be a battle of wills played out within the relationship, especially in the area of how sexual expression is managed.

NNODE is the direction the couple should be moving; 9H shows spiritual development. Broadening horizons. Education and intellectual growth. Philosophy, religion; asking the deeper questions. There's a lovely trine to the 5H MOON showing an ease of relating here, especially through artistic pursuits and play.

Hard square from 12H SATURN. There will be hard lessons here along the path to greater enlightenment and personal development. Authority issues and that battle of wills can come into play in a bad way.

VERTEX shows me how the relationship is likely to impact the individuals involved. For what purpose it's formed.

12H SATURN closely opposes the VERTEX. In the 6H, the relationship was likely to be a very significant part of your daily lives; working together and sharing in routine trials. SATURN's involvement shows how these karmic lessons were the basis for which it formed.

It makes an exact square to 9H NNODE. Again, personal development and spiritual enlightenment were going to be essential goals, but not easily attained. There would still be a great push for them to be realised, and much energy dedicated to that.

MARS, the VXR, is conjunct PLUTO and VALENTINE, 12H. The two were clearly joined to experience a passionate romantic relationship -- one with all of the volatility of a gothic romance.

12H is our karma and baggage; here it's even more so with KARMA sharing the sign.

You carried severe baggage in that area -- likely infidelity, abandonment, failure to commit, and so on. SATURN and PLUTO, show how essential it is to give each other freedom to be individuals, and not to try and dominate the partner. Love with passion -- not possession.

This is the sort of composite of possessive former lovers who suffered as a result of their inability to love unconditionally and without expectation. Too many strings and conditions. The lesson is to love freely and without restriction or boundaries.

Whenever I see the cSUN and cMOON not forming aspects, it shows me the two are not in basic harmony on a fundamental level.

The 9H NNODE trine 5H MOON shows me this was a primary goal of the bond; to evolve in terms of emotional expression, and to create art that would show that enlightenment.

Yes, I do see why you sensed some clear similarities. While the aspects and background may differ, there are some very similar themes here.

CHIRON does not oppose, however, and I think this is an important distinction. It seems there are some quincunxes -- in order to heal, there are certain core features of your relationship that would have to change. Adjustments.

There may even be some quindeciles; I can't quite tell. If so, there would be an obsessive drive towards healing, which is being prevented by the SUN quincunx. The required adjustments.

A few more things:

JUNO conjunct VESTA. Once you two embarked upon a path of enlightenment, your relationship would be very dedicated to it. While out of orb, it's being near to NNODE shows that this was a great direction for the relationship, clearly. I AM intrigued it's out of orb, though ....

Lastly, VENUS is square NEPTUNE. There's a basic disharmony between the chartruler (and 12R) and the emotional expression of the bond. That's clearly a problem. This can range from deception to one feeling the other isn't really 'in it' or a sense that your ideals aren't being properly realised; aren't in sync. This, again, could have to do with values, and the way we use resources. Sometimes, one has a severely debilitated self-esteem and self concept.

NEPTUNE, of course, dispositing the MOON, shows how this can play out on the emotional level, leading to key misunderstandings; someone's feelings not being validated; or even that one is too absent (NEPTUNE) or withholding of their true intentions or emotions. It ranges.

All in all, this looks like a rather clear-cut case of Soulmates to me; two souls who have gone through many, many lives together, but have incurred difficult karma and failed to truly enjoy the sense and experience of togetherness for which they've both longed.

The relationship might have led to that great enlightenment and personal development, which would have resulted in a clear aspect of the SUN and MOON. Perhaps then you would have been Twin Flames, preparing to Reunite and Ascend? I'm not sure.

Sometimes, I wonder if we find ourselves flipping through dimensions and timelines depending upon the choices we make. It seems plausible that we'd Ascend with a Soulmate with whom we've cleared hard karma, and become One; only to return to fight the good fight, as a Twin Flame.

After all, time isn't linear. You STILL could, you know. In another timeline, where the circumstances are conducive, you could put forth the energy that will allow you to clear your karma and Ascend.

Then ... who knows? I think the progressions tell the ultimate story of how our soul is operating across the multiverse. If you find that your composite will have a SUN-MOON conjunction in this lifetime, then maybe you were successful.

I'd say this composite is a 'maybe' case. As you put it, 'near Twin Flame'. I think if you balance the karma -- somewhere -- you can Ascend there, and find the relationship -- or its dynamics -- changing here.

Even if it's nothing more than a sense that it's done.

I got that a few months ago. One of my dearest Soulmates and I finally cleared our karma. I've not had another dream of him since, and it's been YEARS. I asked him, did he feel as if something was lifted in some way? That we were 'lighter'? And he laughed and said, yeah -- he couldn't put his finger on it, but it really was.

So I'm a big proponent of understanding how our concurrent timelines work together, and using meditation, Tantra, and energy work to positively influence and resolve karma across them.

posted June 23, 2014 12:34 AM            

Composite sun, mars, pluto and saturn conjunct his natal venus/pluto conjunction and the closest conjunction is between saturn and his natal venus but mars, pluto and sun conjunct more closely my natal pluto. Also, composite venus and moon oppose or conjunct my natal moon very tightly. Also composite karma conjuncts exact his saturn.

The first house in our composite is intercepted, not the 12th.

Our chiron does not oppose your stellium it forms a YOD you are right but with your TF I see the same thing; it doenst actually oppose but forms a YOD.

The weeek we broke up I had this vivid dream of his bed filled with teddy bears and I felt peace and love in the dream.

Its like the dream was saying this relationship needed to end but the love was real and will always be part of me.

Our progressed Sun is at 28 47 and our AC is at 28 33 degrees both in scorpio right now.

I feel I have learned to love without possessing and this personal growth was triggered by my union with him and the break up and has been a process but yes I have come a long way this regard......

Perhaps part of the karma I owe is the pain of losing him and of coming to the realization of on a deep level of this lost so in our next life I dont make the same mistakes, in addition to learning to love freely.

I remember him telling me that I will learn from this and not do it again with anyone else; like him not getting back with me was about a lesson...

Even though we didn't cheat on each other; losing him and him not fighting for us felt like a huge betrayal to me bc he was the one so I expected more...

Impulsivity, taking for granted when you have something truly amazing are some of the lessons and like you said loving freely....

I have NN in gemini in the 7th and venus conjunct karma so tact in how I interact with my lovers is one of the things I need to learn. His scorpio style of handling wounds seemed to activate my SN way of dealing....

I AM REALLY REALLY HOPING THAT WHEN OUR PROGRESSED SUN AND AC MOVES TO 29 DEGREES SCORPIO AND FROM THEN MOVES TO SAG AT 0 DEGREES THAT THIS MEANS I LEARNED WHAT I WAS SUPPOSE TO FINALLY AND MY KARMA WITH HIM IS PAID AND WE BOTH FEEL RELIEF.

I DONT WANT TO REACT EMOTIONALLY EVER AGAIN TO THINGS NOT GOING MY WAY IN RELATIONSHIPS AND DISCUSS ISSUES LIGHTLY AND DIPLOMATICALLY, I WANT TO ALWAYS LOVE FREELY.

One year from now P Sun and P AC will be at 29 degrees in scorpio, my saturn is transiting my 12th now and will be next year as well...About two years from now our AC AND Sun will be at 0 degrees Sag; I hope that is relief and a new stage for us were we dont feel this pain or longing bc the karma will be paid. Coincidentally Saturn will be in my first by then as well and no longer in my 12th.

I am thinking that whatever lessons I was suppose to learn from our relationship I have learned mostly and what I haven't fully yet it will happen in the next year before saturn leaves my 12th our our composite AC and SUN change to sag 0 degrees.

Here is our Progressed comp right now:

BTW real good job specially with this section of your analysis, really resonates:

MARS, the VXR, is conjunct PLUTO and VALENTINE, 12H. The two were clearly joined to experience a passionate romantic relationship -- one with all of the volatility of a gothic romance.

12H is our karma and baggage; here it's even more so with KARMA sharing the sign.

You carried severe baggage in that area -- likely infidelity, abandonment, failure to commit, and so on. SATURN and PLUTO, show how essential it is to give each other freedom to be individuals, and not to try and dominate the partner. Love with passion -- not possession.

posted June 23, 2014 12:42 AM            

Composite sun, mars, pluto and saturn conjunct his natal venus/pluto conjunction and the closest conjunction is between saturn and his natal venus but mars, pluto and sun conjunct more closely my natal pluto. Also, composite venus and moon oppose or conjunct my natal moon very tightly. Also composite karma conjuncts exact his saturn.

Based on this who has more karma to pay?

posted June 23, 2014 08:33 AM            

I can tell from what I've noticed so far, composites with Chiron as apex for the Yod involve some spiritual awakening requiring a lot of pain and longing, unfortunately If those two people cannot be together to heal together (pass to the healing stage of Chiron), there's a lot of pain.

Usually Chiron contacts combined with a good synastry means those two people are meant to be together to heal Chiron wounds, build the bridge between pain and healing Chiron requires. Composite Yods also point to a necessity of being together, a magnetized relationship pushing those two to be together, sometimes against all odds. When Chiron is involved in the Yod as he apex (the result), there is no middle ground, it's either pain or healing.

It all depends on the synastry I guess. If the synastry points to a long-term, fulfilling relationship, that Chiron is ultimately about healing together. If the synastry is somehow separative or unbalanced when it comes to the different impact it has on each of the partners, that Chiron can translate as a lot of pain or longing from the part of the most involved partner. In this case, the healing part of Chiron here is supposed to be experienced by that partner, it becomes a personal spiritual lesson for the most involved partner.

So Chiron as apex in composite has several outcomes:
- pain together because they can't be together (star-crossed lovers)

- initial pain, but then major healing together, when they finally reunite (healing can only take place for them IF together)

- one partner holds to the relationship tightly, Chiron is a personal lesson to him/her (it matters a lot here his natal Chiron, or what happens to his/her Chiron in the synastry, if it's unilaterally triggered), there is a lot of pain and longing, but when the lesson is learned (it could be a lesson about letting go, for instance, or an ideal only touched, not fulfilled, or any other lesson), major healing occurs.

posted June 23, 2014 09:54 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

Where are your ALMA (390) and ISIS (42) and OSIRIS (1923)? The latter two can certainly be used in terms of 'timing' when dealing with Soulmates. ALMA might, too.

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Progress charts and the day we met in reference to ISIS and OSIRIS:

I had libra at 0 degrees in mercury which is my 7th house ruler.

My progressed moon conjunct his Natal sun by one orb.

My venus in virgo at 2 degrees conjunct his natal osiris exact.

My mars in virgo at 5 degrees conjunct his natal isis by 2 degrees.

His progressed Sun and Moon both conjuncted my southnode the day we met.

His progressed Osiris was conjuncting exact my Priapus.

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Today he has P Isis in virgo at 12 degrees and P Osiris in virgo at 10 degrees.

Today I have P venus in virgo at 12 degrees and P mars in virgo at 13 degrees.

Today his P isis conjuncts exact my P venus and by one orb my P mars and his P Osiris conjuncts my P venus by 2 orbs and P Mars by 3 orbs.

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Now onto our Tropic Natals:

In composite my moon does not aspect his sun but in synastry our moons conjunct and my moon trines his sun and our suns sextile. Also his moon trines by sign my sun.

He has:

Isis in virgo 7 degrees
Osiris in virgo 2 degrees
h22 in Taurus at 9 degrees
chiron in Taurus at 15 degrees

I have:

Isis in Cancer 4 degrees
Osiris in Taurus 12 degress
h22 in virgo at 7 degrees
chiron in gemini at 2 degrees

His Isis conjuncts my Priapus exact
His Osiris conjuncts my Priapus by 5 degrees
My isis sextiles his Isis and Osiris
My osiris conjuncts his Priapus within 3 orbs

This drive to merge is very strong since we met we were drawn to each other like magnets and started to kiss.

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I wasn't sure about the Isis osiris been powerful or h22 but WOW now I am.

Thanks for all your feedback.......between your feedback and Leeloo's in this thread I am really gaining major valuable insight....I imagine the chiron input she provided since you have a yod involving chiron in the 7th as well will be very insightful too you as well...

posted June 23, 2014 10:46 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Could you repost your synastry with him, to compare it with this composite?

I can tell from what I've noticed so far, composites with Chiron as apex for the Yod involve some spiritual awakening requiring a lot of pain and longing, unfortunately If those two people cannot be together to heal together (pass to the healing stage of Chiron), there's a lot of pain.

Usually Chiron contacts combined with a good synastry means those two people are meant to be together to heal Chiron wounds, build the bridge between pain and healing Chiron requires. Composite Yods also point to a necessity of being together, a magnetized relationship pushing those two to be together, sometimes against all odds. When Chiron is involved in the Yod as he apex (the result), there is no middle ground, it's either pain or healing.

It all depends on the synastry I guess. If the synastry points to a long-term, fulfilling relationship, that Chiron is ultimately about healing together. If the synastry is somehow separative or unbalanced when it comes to the different impact it has on each of the partners, that Chiron can translate as a lot of pain or longing from the part of the most involved partner. In this case, the healing part of Chiron here is supposed to be experienced by that partner, it becomes a personal spiritual lesson for the most involved partner.

So Chiron as apex in composite has several outcomes:
- pain together because they can't be together (star-crossed lovers)

- initial pain, but then major healing together, when they finally reunite (healing can only take place for them IF together)

- one partner holds to the relationship tightly, Chiron is a personal lesson to him/her (it matters a lot here his natal Chiron, or what happens to his/her Chiron in the synastry, if it's unilaterally triggered), there is a lot of pain and longing, but when the lesson is learned (it could be a lesson about letting go, for instance, or an ideal only touched, not fulfilled, or any other lesson), major healing occurs.

So what is your Chiron doing in your natals and in this synastry? I think this is a good lead for you to answer these questions. I'd like to see the synastry, the tropical...I think I've only seen your draco synastry.

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This is real good input and resonates 100%; I would say all of it does. I am very curious what will happen when chiron conjuncts the apex of this YOD as it has not happened yet.

Below is just some observations but when I get home today I will post our tropic synastry.

My chiron squares exact his osiris
His chiron conjuncts my Osiris within 3 orbs

My chiron trines his saturn by 4 orbs
His chiron squares my venus by 8 orbs

***His Draco Juno conjuncts exact my Tropic Chiron
***My draco Juno squares exact his Tropic Chiron

His draco chiron conjuncts by one orb my draco moon and his draco moon conjuncts my tropic saturn exact.

My chiron conjuncts my own draco venus by 2 orbs.

(My draco AC conjuncts his Tropic AC within one orb. His draco AC conjuncts exact my Juno.)

Natally I have a lot of chiron aspects...my chiron in gemini at 2 degrees aspects my chart ruler conjunction between jupiter and uranus by opposition and opposes my AC as well. It also trines my sun by 5 orbs out of sign , and inconjuncts my saturn exact (this incojunction forms a Yod with his draco chiron in cap at 0 degrees). My chiron also quintiles my moon and biquintiles my pluto.

Natally his chiron is not doing much. His chiron squares his Northnode by one orb approaching and my vertex conjuncts exact his northnode. His chiron also trines his AC, biquintiles neptune and sextiles moon.

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Our composite chiron opposes his natal sun by one orb or less.

T Chiron will conjunct the APEX CHIRON in 2032.

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My saturn inconjunct chiron forming a yod with hid draco saturn in cap at 0 degrees makes me think karma involving heart break and healing between the two of us and the theme of chiron of been together, apart and longing. We broke up under a heart break clash; transit chiron in cap was squaring his saturn in libra.

posted June 23, 2014 11:36 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
The interception here is in houses 3rd/9th or 2nd/8th, not 1st/7th. It's not apparent from the chart, you must check the exact house cusp degrees.

Interception means having a WHOLE sign in a house, and NO cusps in that sign.

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Thanks a lot for clarifying this; I thought an intercepted house was the second house that was repeated by sign.

Like my husband does not have pisces/virgo cusps so I thought he had a pisces/virgo interception but really his IC and MC cusps are intercepted in leo/aqua and he has MC at 0 degrees aqua. I wasnt sure if his IC/MC were intercepted or his 5th and 11th but with your description it makes it easy to assess, thanks.

Missing two pairs of signs what would that be called? cusp void?

posted June 23, 2014 11:47 AM            

So my husband and I do have an intercept 1st/7th in our composite and yes our relationship is very private; not a secret but that fits the description: very private...

We are always together and dont really like socializing a lot; we prefer to spend our time together privately alone. Also when I met him he did not want a commitment and when he asked me to marry him I started to not want a commitment so it can mean commitment issues; in the timing or expression that later if addressed turns into a strength in the relationship. Going with your hidden treasure input about interceptions .

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The timing issue with commitment is probably his natal venus square mars/uranus/DC and our composite uranus square venus actually.

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With my ex we have a 6th/12th house interception only..upon closer inspection.

IDK I guess that we would have been very private about our daily activities and spirituality if we had lasted long enough to move in together..it could also represent how our connection is spiritual and was not able to be translated to an earthly day to day union bc of karma or karma involving this issue but if addressed by both parties this would be overcomed and turned into a strength.

posted June 23, 2014 11:50 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Thanks a lot for clarifying this; I thought an intercepted house was the second house that was repeated by sign.

Like my husband does not have pisces/virgo cusps so I thought he had a pisces/virgo interception but really his IC and MC cusps are intercepted in leo/aqua and he has MC at 0 degrees aqua. I wasnt sure if his IC/MC were intercepted or his 5th and 11th but with your description it makes it easy to assess, thanks.

Missing two pairs of signs what would that be called? cusp void?

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I don't understand what you mean by two pairs of signs???

I remember clearly that your husband has Virgo/Pisces intercepted.

The intercepted sign is the one that has NO cusps in it.

If one has MC in Aqua (a cusp) can't have Aqua intercepted.

Intercepted are also the planets ruling the intercepting signs or the planets residing in intercepted houses.

Sometimes people have two signs intercepted in one house (no cusps in two signs)

posted June 23, 2014 12:10 PM            

My ex and I Comp Cusps:

1. 29 libra
2. 28 scorpio
3. 29 55 sag

posted June 23, 2014 12:25 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:

My ex and I Comp Cusps:

1. 29 libra
2. 28 scorpio
3. 29 55 sag

MC. 2 Leo
11. 3 Virgo
12. 2 Libra

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All right...so 3rd and 9th houses are intercepted...and the signs Capricorn and Cancer.... and NN Juno and Vesta are intercepted... and Moon and Saturn as rulers of these signs...when you post the synastry, we can try and understand what these signs and planets mean for you...but I think Moon and Saturn in combination with Capricorn/Cancer and Juno Vesta intercepted already shows some difficulties or delays in becoming husband/wife, mother/father, possibly related to 3rd/9th house issues....but there's definitely a theme here, you can see it, a theme we need to understand.

posted June 23, 2014 12:41 PM            

Sad but a relief to know this. Thanks a lot.

I have NN and vesta in the 7th and juno in the 5th so it fits right in with your saturn/moon composition interception input.

About 10 years after we broke up he told me he regrets not having children with me which is his way of saying he regrets not getting married or having children with me as he thinks people marry to have children. I really badly wanted to have a baby with him; maybe that is work of the composite moon in the 5th involved in a tsquare involving comp chart ruler venus and neptune. He is the only man I really wanted to truly have kids with from the bottom of my heart. You add the chiron theme and bang! WOW

Craziness...... astrology is amazing .

posted June 24, 2014 09:21 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm glad there is a bit more light Can't wait for the synastry You're welcome!

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My first name is Laura and second Amelia
His second is daniel
I thought it would interesting to include them.

Here is his Natal:

My natal:

posted June 25, 2014 05:45 AM            

Saturn a bit lacking in this synastry, whilst the Moons are majorly conjunct on the retroactive angles. I think the compulsive (in this case) lunar merging lacked the Saturn grounding (in relation to your Cap/Cancer theme in the Composite and the wound there, Chiron).

Saturn rules his 5th, is in 1st. You have Sun in 10th and this pivotal planet, Mercury on MC. Your NN dead on his MC. Neptune is also on this axis, as I said Neptune important in this chart. So an MC/IC lesson/theme (Cancer/Cap)

posted June 25, 2014 09:35 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Nice synastry, Amelia, on many levels. Impressive superposition of nodes with vertices and angles. Neptune seems to play an important role in this synastry. Along with his DSC ruler conjunct your ASC opp your Moon. Your Chiron is connected to it too.

Saturn a bit lacking in this synastry, whilst the Moons are majorly conjunct on the retroactive angles. I think the compulsive (in this case) lunar merging lacked the Saturn grounding (in relation to your Cap/Cancer theme in the Composite and the wound there, Chiron).

Saturn rules your 5th, is in 1st. He has Sun in 10th and this pivotal planet, Mercury on MC. His NN dead on your MC. Neptune is also on this axis, as I said Neptune important in this chart. So an MC/IC lesson/theme (Cancer/Cap)

Also, I notice your Sun is in 3rd, his Chiron falls in your 9th, your own Chiron approaching 9th. I think the important lesson is mostly yours, with the emphasis on 3rd/9th intercepted in the composite, on that Cap/Cancer axis.

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You have the synastry backwards...I am the one that has Sun in the 10th and mercury in the MC.

Composite karma conjuncts exact his natal saturn and composite saturn conjuncts very tightly his natal venus so based on your input and what I just said it would indicate the lesson is his....I felt he was a coward and did not fight for the relationship and instead retreated into his wound which he then did not want to deal with either and found quickly a girl to replace me with even though I knew he was not over me and you can tell by how unhappy he looked in the pics they would take together. He just wanted to hurt me and not deal with the situation; not look inside. 10 years later he tells me he regrets not marrying me but that was like for a brief moment that he dealt with this IMO......I told him he would regret it and it will be too late when he does...I knew it; almost like we have been in this situation before.

posted June 25, 2014 10:00 AM            

I broke up with him bc we were suppose to meet up and he wanted to go out with his friend instead...I have south node in the first and I was 19 then so I did not have the best relationship skills; I shouldn't have broken up bec of it. I should have probably just let it go and then addressed it face to face in person calmly but assertively but the emotions are very strong and I was 19.

The next day I regretted breaking up so I wanted to get back; I suppose another mistake! I should have just let him come around on his own...but the emotions were too powerful.

We got back together but he was super cold and distant since he is a scorpio who felt hurt bc I broke up with him....He kept acting cold and distant for about a week and I can't stand that so I broke up with him again....I again regretted it but this time he did not want to get back....

So quickly after this I convinced my mother to let me move back to the dominican republic and she actually let me which is something I had been asking for a long time...she never liked my ex a lot which I feel contributed to everything too...I did not enjoy at all my stay there.

I moved back for 8 months....he then about two months later met someone. I imagine me moving away pushed him to this and made him feel abandoned..He loves his dad but never has been able to have a real relationship with him bc of circumstances (distance, divorce from mother). My ex is Cuban....and has a lot of libra in him; he needs to be in a relationship.

One thing while dating him he did not want to move from Miami and I wanted to travel and explore and move to other places.......I have a lot of sag influence so I could see how the 9th house interception and my chiron falling in his 9th played into this..

I moved to another country to try to forget him quickly after we broke up (my chiron falling in his 9th). I think that was painful to both of us, it was very painful to me...the idea that I would have to stay in Miami forever and not travel much or get to experience living in other places with him bothered me a lot (my chiron falling in his 9th) and our 3rd/9th house in composite intercepted with juno/vesta/northnode intercepted along with having rulers of our NN which is intercepted been Moon and saturn. Our comp Moon inconjuncts Saturn.

posted June 25, 2014 10:02 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Sorry, Amelia, I corrected my post for you.

In this case, the lesson is definitely his. It is a lesson related to MC/IC.
I think the composite interception on 3rd/9th is related to your Chiron overlays. Your Chiron is however more active in the chart (approaching DSC, in connection with Alma and chart ruler), so you're the Chiron in the sense the one with the earlier spiritual awakening, the first one who "awakes" so to speak, but also the one who feels the initial pain, while he realizes later. Pretty much what was described in the article you posted.

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