posted June 23, 2014 07:44 PM            

How do you interpret an unaspected Sun in composite and/or Davison?

I mostly have to look at asteroids to find any aspects, which I don't fully understand since we have some decent basic synastry, including his Sun trine my Mercury, Venus and Saturn, and my Sun square his Moon and sextile his Saturn, all fairly close.

Once we get to the centaurs and asteroids, it looks better:

Composite Sun trine Chiron (1)
trine Juno (1)
sextile Vesta (3)
conjunct Psyche (1)
trine Eros (3)
bQ Angel (0)
conjunct Moira (0)

Davison Sun quincunx Uranus (2)
trine Pallas (0)
sextile Vesta (0)
sextile Valentine (1)
Q Alma (1)

Perhaps this helps explain why it took us 20+ years to get together?

What has been your experience with unaspected (or minimally aspected) Sun in Composite and/or Davison?

posted June 25, 2014 09:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Perhaps this helps explain why it took us 20+ years to get together?

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Most probably.

posted June 26, 2014 11:27 AM              

are you together now, in an established relationship? for how long?

does the Sun receives minor aspects from other planets?

is the Sun conjunct or opposite any of your natal planets?

posted June 26, 2014 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I have a few questions:

are you together now, in an established relationship? for how long?

does the Sun receives minor aspects from other planets?

is the Sun conjunct or opposite any of your natal planets?

where is its house/sign?

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Yes, ongoing romantic relationship for about 1 year now.

No, no minor aspects from any of the traditional planets, except Uranus quincunx in the Davison listed above. Well, I don't know about the really minor ones that won't appear on the basic Astro charts, but no semisextiles, biquinitiles, etc.

Composite Sun is at 25 Cancer; probably the 5th house.*

Davison Sun is at 25 Capricorn; probably also in the 5th house.*

*I say probably because his time of birth is questionable. I've rectified a bit, but using a dubious (made up by me) methodology.

Ahhh, here may be the answer: Composite Sun is conjunct my Vertex exactly at 25 Cancer, while Davison Sun would be opposite.

BTW, is that usual to see an exact opposition like that between Composite and Davison Sun?

posted June 26, 2014 02:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Most probably.

Generally, unaspected Sun in the composite chart means the relationship itself is simply non-existent or lacks direction.
So it may never take off the ground despite the feelings/attraction (synastry).
Or it takes a lot of time...
The beginning of the actual relationship was probably triggered by a transit? Or maybe someting in the progressed composite chart was triggered.

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Yes; I don't remember the details off the top of my head (no time now to look) but when we "re-met" last year there were some powerful transits going on.

In the Progressed Composite, Mercury and Venus were conjunct Sun, with Moon and Uranus both square Sun, and an exact Mars-Sun opposition.

And in the Progressed Davison, Sun square Moon and Uranus, Sun conjunct Venus and Mars, Sun sextile Jupiter, and Sun quincunx Saturn.

I guess we just had to wait until after our 2nd Saturn returns to find the "direction." Ha!

posted June 26, 2014 03:05 PM              

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Yes, ongoing romantic relationship for about 1 year now.

No, no minor aspects from any of the traditional planets, except Uranus quincunx in the Davison listed above. Well, I don't know about the really minor ones that won't appear on the basic Astro charts, but no semisextiles, biquinitiles, etc.

Composite Sun is at 25 Cancer; probably the 5th house.*

Davison Sun is at 25 Capricorn; probably also in the 5th house.*

*I say probably because his time of birth is questionable. I've rectified a bit, but using a dubious (made up by me) methodology.

Ahhh, here may be the answer: Composite Sun is conjunct my Vertex exactly at 25 Cancer, while Davison Sun would be opposite.

BTW, is that usual to see an exact opposition like that between Composite and Davison Sun?

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posted June 27, 2014 12:33 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Delilah, was there a third party mediating your getting together? like an event or a person?

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Not a person, and not a single event (although there was what I call our "Second Meeting" date/place/time when lightening essentially struck), but a subject. We originally met 20+ years ago in a college-level class on the subject (which became our avocation) and continued to occasionally cross paths regarding the subject matter. The "Second Meeting" 13 months ago was at a luncheon regarding the subject. I was late and took the remaining chair at the table, next to him.

posted June 27, 2014 12:48 PM              

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Not a person, and not a single event (although there was what I call our "Second Meeting" date/place/time when lightening essentially struck), but a subject. We originally met 20+ years ago in a college-level class on the subject (which became our avocation) and continued to occasionally cross paths regarding the subject matter. The "Second Meeting" 13 months ago was at a luncheon regarding the subject. I was late and took the remaining chair at the table, next to him.

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posted June 27, 2014 01:14 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Amazing! Just like I suspected...Peregrine in comp needs a third element, an anchor, to finally happen Love your story! luv luv luv

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posted June 27, 2014 10:25 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Amazing! Just like I suspected...Peregrine in comp needs a third element, an anchor, to finally happen Love your story! luv luv luv

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I kinda like it too!

Just to make sure I'm not getting confused: a peregrine planet is different from an unaspected planet, correct? It's just that in this case, I have both, right?

posted June 28, 2014 06:50 AM              

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
I kinda like it too!

Just to make sure I'm not getting confused: a peregrine planet is different from an unaspected planet, correct? It's just that in this case, I have both, right?

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posted June 28, 2014 11:51 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
A peregrine planet receives no Ptolemaic aspects. I guess it's the same with unaspected, because usually unaspected means not receiving Ptolemaic aspects, minor aspects aren't considered in the classical paradigm. But since many minor aspects are reconsidered nowadays (such as the quincunx) and many minor aspects are being studied more and more and included as important, these definitions are changing too.

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Huh. The reason I asked is because The Google tells me a peregrine planet is one that is not in the sign it rules, or in detriment, exaltation, or fall.

That is, to me, very different than whether it has any other planet that it aspects. Or am I missing something?

posted June 28, 2014 03:08 PM              

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Huh. The reason I asked is because The Google tells me a peregrine planet is one that is not in the sign it rules, or in detriment, exaltation, or fall.

That is, to me, very different than whether it has any other planet that it aspects. Or am I missing something?

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posted June 30, 2014 01:51 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Oh, yes, sorry: the one you describe is the traditional definition of peregrine. I was referring to Noel Tyl's concept. Here:
http://www.hniizato.com/interpreting-unaspected-planets-noel-tyls-definitio n-of-a-peregrine-planet/

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Thanks for the link. "Marching to a different drumbeat" certainly describes our relationship.

posted January 17, 2024 02:08 AM            

I recently discovered a couple with an unaspected Sun. No aspects to any planets. Just a semi-square to the NN.

But their composite is LOADED, otherwise. I mean every single planet is aspected. Every single one. Plus a stellium in cap. I've never seen anything like it.

They were childhood sweethearts, but unfortunately he was murdered right after their baby shower. They were together for 12 years and engaged. Very sudden and unexpected.