posted June 25, 2014 08:39 AM            

Usually, relationships, even short ones or those which are meant to end at some point, are the best thing that could have happened between those two people, so separation is not necessarily a loss, on the contrary. Every relationship is an important lesson on the path to love.

Let's analyze a bit...synastry/composite/Davison.

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posted June 25, 2014 09:27 AM            

It appears there are no Saturn contacts to luminaries or Venus in neither synastry nor composite, is that so? It is hard to tell with so many aspects.

posted June 25, 2014 10:48 AM            

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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
My Saturn 19 Taurus semisextiles his Sun 20 Aries.
His Saturn 23 Pisces trines my Sun 16 Cancer.

Was it committed...well, he cheated on me a lot. So yes, off and on. He is very needy of female attention, Aries Sun, Sag Moon, very hard to pin down. Needs constant stimulation. There is a real connection here though and he is aware of it just as much as I am but it isn't meant to be in this life. Why we remain friends.

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Pfewww...good riddance!

posted June 25, 2014 11:14 AM            

In composite, Saturn is 21 Aries (conjunct his natal Sun, square my Mars)...

Conjunct Juno 24 Aries
Semisextile Mercury 21 Taurus
Trine Jupiter 26 Leo
QC Pluto 20 and Uranus 25 Virgo
QC Neptune 25 Scorpio

posted June 25, 2014 12:31 PM            

What kind of karma do you think we have based on davidson chart? or past life? I am specially interested in our YOD with Saturn in the APEX and mars conjunct DC and Venus in the 4th.

Notice that Northnode conjunct union by one orb is conjunct the chart's AC when we met and pluto is transiting the 1st:

posted June 25, 2014 12:39 PM            

This looks like a very useful investigation.

It would be helpful if you say which asteroids anyone should include in their charts here in the interest of research . That would put all the charts on the same footing, as it were, and make it easier to see similarities.

posted June 25, 2014 12:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:

Also, selecting 'do not add all aspect lines' (or it's equivalent) would also help to make charts easier to read. Or one gets crosseyed!!

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Exactly! Thanks for the input, Astro keen

Also, if possible, please use asteroids:

Vesta Ceres Juno Amor Valentine Eros Psyche Cupido Lust Union Alma Lilith Karma Priapus Pholus etc.

BUT...if other asteroids are important for your relationship and they are a theme in your relationship, use those.

posted June 25, 2014 12:56 PM            

Well, Mars rules IC and Mars is on DSC. Was this a feisty relationship? Mars is in Gemini though, more like feisty words between you??

It is disposited by the Yod release, Mr Mercury. This is definitely a love Yod, based on the planets (Yin/Yang intergation) and the connection with Valentine and the positioning on 5th/11th axis. The Yod is heavily fueled by Moon and Jupiter. Interestingly, this connects to another interception here.

posted June 25, 2014 01:03 PM            

SO there is an intercepted uranus conjunct karma opposite sun conjunct chiron in our composite...

Our nodes rulers sextile'

and there is Yod with saturn in the apex inconjunct mars conjunct DC and venus in the 4th.

****So I guess intercepted houses in COMP are a big problem.

posted June 25, 2014 01:14 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Another Chirotic relationship, Amelia?

Well, Mars rules IC and Mars is on DSC. Was this a feisty relationship? Mars is in Gemini though, more like feisty words between you??

It is disposited by the Yod release, Mr Mercury. This is definitely a love Yod, based on the planets (Yin/Yang intergation) and the connection with Valentine and the positioning on 5th/11th axis. The Yod is heavily fueled by Moon and Jupiter. Interestingly, this connects to another interception here.

Looking at the condition of the nodal axis here, it doesn't show major past life activity...a new relationship...but composite, synastry and Dracos must be checked too and things put together.

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hahahaha.....yes is very feisty physically..... and verbally we dont fight but we enjoy talking and get each other intellectually and spiritually.

He does have saturn conjunct by one orb my Soutnode and his venus conjuncts widely by close to 9 orbs my SN. His vextex conjuncts my venus by 4 orbs and my mars by 5 orbs. My antivertex conjuncts his Sun exact.

I read saturn conjunct SN can indicate a relationship that never takes off type of scenerio but I will be honest.......

I dont feel like we have karma...we feel light...like he has never hurt me or I him.

posted June 25, 2014 01:59 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:

****So I guess intercepted houses in COMP are a big problem.

Do intercepted houses in comp indicate karma like they do in natal?

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No, I don't see them as a problem. In fact, in the composite interceptions point to a very close, intimate relationship, like the two have a "bubble" of their own when together, in connection with the interception theme. But the interception is also a place that needs time to ripen, just like in the natals, and it shows there is a slow development with certain things, they only come to light in time, when their moment comes. So I guess it's more of a sign of a longer relationship, with several facets. The interception in the composite becomes a "revealing" (lesson, something developing in time, a very private area of the two etc. - several meanings here) that they can only work out together. An intercepetion always comes to light, just like in the natals.

posted June 25, 2014 02:01 PM            

Saturn on SN is fated. It can show several things:

- well, fate and Karma
- Saturn becomes a teacher of the SN
- Saturn holds SN down
- Saturn never lets SN go

etc.

posted June 25, 2014 02:42 PM            

What do you think??

posted June 25, 2014 03:43 PM            

Otherwise, I think it is a good synastry. Angles conjunct, lots of nodal and vertex activation. House overlays are decent, although I'd say I'm getting hit there a lot more than him. Venus trine Mars. Lots of DWs.

I'd have to say our Moons are a problem. We just don't get each other there. Also, Venus square Neptune DW.
We have a hard time "seeing" each other and our relationship accurately. Over idealize each other and then get disillusioned.

posted June 25, 2014 03:50 PM            

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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
So you think the problem was a lack of Saturn? I always thought maybe we were too heavy on the Saturn and Pluto. Saturn/Mars and Saturn/Neptune DW can be binding. My Saturn is conjunct his NN, thought maybe that was a problem. His saturn qc my Venus but mine doesn't aspect his. Saturn sextile Saturn, Saturn/Pluto DW, Saturn/Mercury DW, Saturn cj DSC, Saturn conjunct Amor and Sextile Valentine. Theres a lot of Pluto too including Pluto/Moon and Pluto/Mercury DW's.

Otherwise, I think it is a good synastry. Angles conjunct, lots of nodal and vertex activation. House overlays are decent, although I'd say I'm getting hit there a lot more than him. Venus trine Mars. Lots of DWs.

I'd have to say our Moons are a problem. We just don't get each other there. Also, Venus square Neptune DW.
We have a hard time "seeing" each other and our relationship accurately. Over idealize each other and then get disillusioned.

Thank you. I'm learning so much from you all!

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Well, I don't know how a guy who cheated on you several times can possibly be good, KarmicMoon It's like...the worst nightmare, that and some sort of addict. Or maybe you have no problem with that? People have different views on that, it's true.

posted June 25, 2014 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Well, I don't know how a guy who cheated on you several times can possibly be good, KarmicMoon It's like...the worst nightmare, that and some sort of addict. Or maybe you have no problem with that? People have different views on that, it's true.

Anyways, it's difficult for me to look at the chart, I just can't see the aspects between planets in that mesh So if you want to repost a chart without "aspect lines to all", we can take a look and see the weak spots in your synastry. Or maybe he's just not the committed type.

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posted June 25, 2014 04:14 PM            

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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
I know he wasn't good for me that is why he is an ex, haha. I'm not looking to get back together with him or to be judged for decisions I made when I was very young. I was just wondering if there was something in the chart that would cause him to treat me that way DESPITE a decent synastry. I guess I misunderstood the post. My apologies.

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Hey, there's no need to get upset, I wasn't judging you, if it felt that way, the apology is mine. I don't think he "treated you that way", as you say, I'm sure he does that and would do that with anyone. My ex cheated on me too, now he's cheating his current s.o.