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amelia28
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posted July 04, 2014 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.. By looking at both of your natals and the composite of you two I think this relationship has the potential to be therapeutic and help the two of you work on your issues; you with your mother and her with her father..

I think is great she is going to therapy and it shows she is serious about turning her life around and healing. After all she has a tight conjunction between venus and chiron.

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Venusincap89
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posted July 04, 2014 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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amelia28
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posted July 04, 2014 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its possible the two of you want to break past patterns and create new patterns with each other and this relationship may offer this opportunity...

But there is a small a chance that old patterns with your mother maybe repeated with her.....

I am leaning more towards this been a chance for both of you to create new patterns and heal old wounds..

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IndigoDirae
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posted July 04, 2014 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, she's in therapy.

You're good.

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Venusincap89
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posted July 04, 2014 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amelia28:
Its possible the two of you want to break past patterns and create new patterns with each other and this relationship may offer this opportunity...

But there is a small a chance that old patterns with your mother maybe repeated with her.....

I am leaning more towards this been a chance for both of you to create new patterns and heal old wounds..


I truly hope so xD but I would like your honest opinion. I appreciate honest opinion much more than sugar white lies
do you honestly lean towards the new patterns theory?

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Venusincap89
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posted July 04, 2014 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Okay, she's in therapy.

You're good.


Come on, I need more from you

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amelia28
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posted July 04, 2014 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
I truly hope so xD but I would like your honest opinion. I appreciate honest opinion much more than sugar white lies
do you honestly lean towards the new patterns theory?

To be honest is a tough call. It could go either way I feel but my heart tells me to go for it and that this would be therapeutic for both..


Just take it slow and be delicate with each other...you both have lots of wounds. I think she has wounds with her dad as well, has she spoken to you about her relationship with her dad? I feel he was at least very absent and this affected a lot her self esteem and how she sees herself...

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posted July 04, 2014 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amelia28:
To be honest is a tough call. It could go either way I feel but my heart tells me to go for it and that this would be therapeutic for both..


Just take it slow and be delicate with each other...you both have lots of wounds. I think she has wounds with her dad as well, has she spoken to you about her relationship with her dad? I feel he was at least very absent and this affected a lot her self esteem and how she sees herself...


Yeah she told me her dad never spent any time with her
Wow.. astrology is scary accurate

And she mentioned that I sound like her dad few times
I was like huh? And just moved on but I now realize, it was a bad thing

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posted July 04, 2014 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Okay, she's in therapy.

You're good.


Can you please tell me why its better for me if shes emotionally immature?

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posted July 05, 2014 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just would like to thank Amelia and everyone else who was kind enough to help me out
Thank you guys, and bless you all

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amelia28
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posted July 05, 2014 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
I just would like to thank Amelia and everyone else who was kind enough to help me out
Thank you guys, and bless you all

It was my pleasure. Thanks for sharing with us!

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Venusincap89
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posted July 28, 2014 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
It was my pleasure. Thanks for sharing with us!

Hey Amelia, situation has gotten much worse
This time I REALLY need help

So between past 2 weeks me and her had a lot of arguments, because she kept dishonouring her words. Like she would tell me that she would be free on certain days, and back off last seconds multiple times.
So because of that, I called on it on in a diplomatic manner but it became very hostile due to her anger problems (hostility only came from her, I was fairly calm about it)

So I guess in a sense, I ended up becoming somewhat clingy because I actually liked her. I should have just walked away and let it be but I tried to force it a little

I told her I don't want it to end like this, and we ended up making up for it
She showed a lot of efforts to be nicer to me and all and things seemed great

Just yesterday, I told her I loved her at the heat of the moment (She showed a lot of efforts to make me feel more comfortable for a while and this really turned me on) and she seemed to be really happy about it, like it was all over her body language (perhaps she faked it i m not sure)

On the same day, after we went home, like literally 2 hours after we met, she told me that she doesn't want to lead me on anymore
I tried to talk to her about it, and its gotten to a point where she told me she doesn't want to hear from me anymore
(It's really strange because, I didn't bother her that much)

So my question is, do you think its just another bipolar outbursts of anger? or am I just rationalizing?
She's shown a lot of manipulative behaviour so I can't tell if she's for real or if its some sort of test she's trying to exert on me :s
Should I actually just leave it and move on?
Lol what a hilarious situation I've gotten myself into, I've never had to deal with someone who has anger issues and it seems I've done a poor job of managing it

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Venusincap89
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posted July 28, 2014 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anybody?

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Doux Rêve
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posted July 28, 2014 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sweetheart, ask yourself if you really want to put up with that girl and her crappy behavior for say, a year? Two years? Five? Can you see that happening? If not, then I'd urge you to think about your next move very carefully.
The girl obviously has issues that aren't going to randomly go away overnight.

I am really sorry to be telling you this, I know you care about her and you have feelings for her, but it's time to be a little selfish and ask yourself what it means for you to be part of that relationship - what are the benefits? Do they actually outweigh the negatives? It seems to me that the ship is already sinking. You can choose to stay there for a while, sure. But I wouldn't have many expecations of a happy ever after...


This isn't astrology territory anymore, at least for me. This is about you, your happiness, and the love you think you deserve.


Take time to think about it, alright? Try to see the big picture.


Stay strong.

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MorpHnStorM
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posted July 28, 2014 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Sweetheart, ask yourself if you really want to put up with that girl and her crappy behavior for say, a year? Two years? Five? Can you see that happening? If not, then I'd urge you to think about your next move very carefully.
The girl obviously has issues that aren't going to randomly go away overnight.

I am really sorry to be telling you this, I know you care about her and you have feelings for her, but it's time to be a little selfish and ask yourself what it means for you to be part of that relationship - what are the benefits? Do they actually outweigh the negatives? It seems to me that the ship is already sinking. You can choose to stay there for a while, sure. But I wouldn't have many expecations of a happy ever after...


This isn't astrology territory anymore, at least for me. This is about you, your happiness, and the love you think you deserve.


Take time to think about it, alright? Try to see the big picture.


Stay strong.




quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Well, the synastric MARS conjunct PLUTO with which I'm familiar was one of many aspects indicating a previous life ended by homicide -- one which I'm still karmically mulling over.

You don't have the dangerous degrees, though. But I'd be interested to see if they're in your progressions -- or coming up.

An abuse survivor with natal MARS-PLUTO affliction AND a close synastric conjunction -- who's already showing aggression?


To illustrate your point, here's a composite between my brother and I:

Mars-Pluto not in the synastry, but played out just the same. By far the worst relationship of my life...

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Venusincap89
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posted July 28, 2014 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

This isn't astrology territory anymore, at least for me. This is about you, your happiness, and the love you think you deserve.


Take time to think about it, alright? Try to see the big picture.


Stay strong.


Makes sense!! Thank you!!!

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Venusincap89
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posted July 29, 2014 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Two last questions please
If anybody can share their opinions, I would sincerely appreciate it

In this synastry, who has more pluto energy?
I was told that its the pluto person who ends up with more power

And finally, should I bother responding to her at all? Or should I completely walk away?

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LeeLoo2014
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posted July 30, 2014 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Pluto energy seems equal.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

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Venusincap89
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posted August 04, 2014 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys just an update

I called her a week later, to end it on a good note at least
And I got ignored
Looks like I was rationalizing after all

I would like to thank everyone who's given me good advices and insights
It is my only regret that I couldn't implement them fast enough xD

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Venusincap89
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posted August 05, 2014 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
update
she called back
tells me she was just upset
and thanked me for calling her

wow this is all over the place

Doux Reve, I am gonna keep your advice in my head!! and try to keep it under control
thanks again!!

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