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Fireworks
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posted July 06, 2014 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fireworks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everyone First of all, I'm new here.
Ever since I discovered this community,almost 7 months ago,I've been captured by the interesting topics and discussions held over here.I've found reasonable, articulate opinions, sincere kindliness and good humour.Since I myself happen to have some curiosities regarding the astrological points of view on certain behaviors of the folks around me, I was thinking you could help me out with a chart reading.I like astrology, I have had numerous hunches in the past about people's dominant astro-energies that I even surprised myself with, I've observed some repeating patterns(so I couldn't call myself a skeptic even if I wanted to) but I'm still only a dilettante in this field,that's why I would greatly appreciate your opinion on this frustratingly ambiguous Pisces guy.
So, here's the planetary positions:
Sun Pisces 3°19'22 in house 1
Moon Cancer 12°59'25 end of house 5
Mercury Aquarius 29°23'18 in house 1(retrog)
Venus Pisces 12°01'00 in house 1
Mars Aquarius 19°34'03 in house 1
Jupiter Scorpio 14°35'33 in house 9
Saturn Pisces 2°54'01 in house 1
Uranus Capricorn 24°32'05 in house 12
Neptune Capricorn 22°20'02 in house 12
Pluto Scorpio 28°03'28 in house 9
TrueNode Scorpio 28°04'24 in house 9(retrog)
Major aspects:
Sun Conjunction Mercury 3°56
Sun Conjunction Saturn 0°25
Sun Square Pluto 5°16
Moon Trine Venus 0°58
Moon Trine Jupiter 1°36
Moon Quincunx Ascendant 2°10
Mercury Conjunction Saturn 3°31
Mercury Square Pluto 1°20
Venus Trine Jupiter 2°35
Mars Square Jupiter 4°59
Jupiter Square Ascendant 3°46
Saturn Square Pluto 4°51
Uranus Conjunction Neptune 2°12
Uranus Sextile Pluto 3°31
Neptune Sextile Pluto 5°43
I have to add I'm not sure if the ascendant is actually aquarius but it was the only one I could think of considering his overall appearance.He looks very much like a blend between Matt damon and the twins Max and charlie carver who were part of the cast of teen wolf,they are look alikes almost,except that he is 6 feet tall and has darker features, dark hair, dark brown eyes, well built.First time I met him I thought "gemini" gave me this airy impression, but nope haha, would of never guessed he was a pisces honestly,when he is in his talkative mood, he is very opinionated, cynical and even a bit argumentative but he doesn't really try or doesn't seem to be really good at holding an argument or at least ending it peacefully.We bumped heads a couple of times and it ended in silence on both parts or leaving both of us feeling guilty but not doing anything about it, our interactions have always seemed more like power struggles or just very competitive and I don't get why because there's hardly any fire in his chart, I have more fire planets than him and I was always the one with the "we can work this out" attitude, why would the roles be switched like that?He doesn't seem like too much of a pisces to me, his water planets don't seem to have an expression in his behavior and general outlook on life, I don't know.Soo, what's your insight?
By the way, I'm an Aries sun,mercury,venus,with Pisces moon and scorpio rising. Looking forward to your feedback, thank you

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fishbull11
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posted July 06, 2014 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fishbull11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello there, interesting chart you posted mostly 1st house dominated and some 12th house in there as well. Not surprised you are interested in him as all of that 1st house (aries) energy matches your Aries energy, plus your fish moon. My guess he is argumentative towards you because you are quite a powerhouse with scorp riser and all of that aries energy. Both of those 12th houses you posted square or oppose your aries energy which probably leads to some power struggle and subconscious fight against the establishment type of behavior. I would say there is a lot going on under the surface there with him, all of that 1st house energy has to share that house which probably leads to some instability and contradictory behavior within him (if he is an aqua riser). I would say its going to take awhile for him (if he can do it) to balance out a lot of what is going on in there which in turn probably doesn't make him the best romantic connection at this given time and place. All of that first house energy doesn't want to be dominated by you, and lets be honest whether you know it or not you have to have the upper hand and he probably feels a bit stifled by that. Persistence may pay off though, there is a fair amount to like there between the two of you at first glance. Also one aspect may be his scorpio energy wanting to try and overpower your scorp energy, neither wants to cave to the other or give up the control. Expect if you try the power struggles to continue but should be quite interesting behind closed (or open) doors. Some people really only feel right in a push/pull power struggle relationship, I would consider myself one and typically leo/scorp risers or those born within an hour or two of midnight or noon are this way, don't want a weak partner yet don't want to be overpowered...fun times right? Good luck there, he is moldable and his pisces sun depending on how strong it is in his chart does want you to possess him to a degree but it could be eclipsed by a lot of what is going on with rest of his chart overshadowing it. If he is an aqua riser it squares or opposed your scorp riser, also leading to power struggle as well, typically aquas aren't all that judgmental in fact one of the least judgmental so you may want to look at that again, not sure. Anyway just my opinion, good luck there.

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Fireworks
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posted July 06, 2014 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fireworks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A great insight Fishbull wow, it's quite an interesting view, thank you for taking the time to share this with me, if it helps,here's the overall flow of our interactions: He approached me first but came on too strong and made me feel uneasy so I was very brash to him in our first interaction even though I was flattered by his boldness but I didn't see it coming so I went all defensive.Not to say I really regretted it because he stopped trying to talk to me after that and because I thought he liked me too in the first place, my aries venus went in "chase mode" haha, I didn't want him to give up thaat easy, so for the next couple of weeks I teased him aries style, been playful,gave cute compliments, and he did seem to respond to it but here's the tricky part, my style of flirting was more on the verbal side while his was more on the physical, he was always very bold and touchy and everytime I felt he got too close I turned him down and I made it clear that I only allow that to happen in a relationship, and that I didn't want to play games. "Emotional security over immediate gratification"that was my mantra, I blame it on my pisces moon or maybe my mars which is in cancer.I mean, I think I came off as a contradiction to him, on one hand I was very bold,energetic and assertive and on the other hand, the minute he turned that around to me I became very protective and cautious with my feelings.There was chemistry involved that's for sure, but not in the way we communicated to one another, it was funny actually cause everytime we were around other people we would get into these stimulating, energetic banters and we would argue back and forth over anything under the sun but when we were just the two of us we could barely say a word to each other, like it was this clumsiness,lack of synchronization and awkward silences going on between us, it's like we didn't know how to talk to each other in a way that was not making any of us feel uncomfortable.And what's stranger is that if we were to be taken separately, we have striking similarities in our communication styles, but together it just doesn't seem to work, I wish it did only because I always have this feeling that we both have the potential to build something amazing together but there's already this annoying wall between us that hinders the possibility.I don't know how to approach the problem either.Shouldn't our trine moon signs create enough ease and reduce the friction between the difficult aspects and help us connect harmoniously? How can I help this?

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Fireworks
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posted July 06, 2014 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fireworks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A great insight Fishbull wow, it's quite an interesting view, thank you for taking the time to share this with me, if it helps,here's the overall flow of our interactions: He approached me first but came on too strong and made me feel uneasy so I was very brash to him in our first interaction even though I was flattered by his boldness but I didn't see it coming so I went all defensive.Not to say I really regretted it because he stopped trying to talk to me after that and because I thought he liked me too in the first place, my aries venus went in "chase mode" haha, I didn't want him to give up thaat easy, so for the next couple of weeks I teased him aries style, been playful,gave cute compliments, and he did seem to respond to it but here's the tricky part, my style of flirting was more on the verbal side while his was more on the physical, he was always very bold and touchy and everytime I felt he got too close I turned him down and I made it clear that I only allow that to happen in a relationship, and that I didn't want to play games. "Emotional security over immediate gratification"that was my mantra, I blame it on my pisces moon or maybe my mars which is in cancer.I mean, I think I came off as a contradiction to him, on one hand I was very bold,energetic and assertive and on the other hand, the minute he turned that around to me I became very protective and cautious with my feelings.There was chemistry involved that's for sure, but not in the way we communicated to one another, it was funny actually cause everytime we were around other people we would get into these stimulating, energetic banters and we would argue back and forth over anything under the sun but when we were just the two of us we could barely say a word to each other, like it was this clumsiness,lack of synchronization and awkward silences going on between us, it's like we didn't know how to talk to each other in a way that was not making any of us feel uncomfortable.And what's stranger is that if we were to be taken separately, we have striking similarities in our communication styles, but together it just doesn't seem to work, I wish it did only because I always have this feeling that we both have the potential to build something amazing together but there's already this annoying wall between us that hinders the possibility.I don't know how to approach the problem either.Shouldn't our trine moon signs create enough ease and reduce the friction between the difficult aspects and help us connect harmoniously? How can I help this?

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fishbull11
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posted July 06, 2014 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fishbull11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well one thing I can say and I know from having the same placement is Mars in Cancer sends mixed signals that are hard to figure out probably for him and for you, while your Aries does chase as you say the crab then comes in and causes a side or retreat step probably throwing him for a loop and hurting his confidence in regards to you in the process. Before you keep chasing are you sure he is one you want to chase after and expel energy on? I ask because your mars/venus square or opposition causes a discord between what you want and what you need...your mars cancer is probably a bit smitten by his pisces venus but your aries venus isn't looking for a sofety in the long run and based on your scorp riser I assuming you are looking longer run. Also an unevolved fish with pisces venus could spell a bit of trouble, I've read that venus tends to be hard at loving one woman unless other placements help it out. Maybe do a bit of homework to see if he is one who will stand by you and not bolt when your strength cuts him down a bit or other challenges come along. Pisces moon and scorp risers are sensitive placements so I would say maybe tread a bit lightly...being a scorp riser aries venus you aren't one to bolt when bumps in the road come or challenges hit the relationship so I would say seek someone who shares a similar sentiment, just a thought.
He probably has some issues in the communication department because it is retrograde and from I have read on here people with it just feel misunderstood and troubled or more frustrated by the placement. I would suggest trying to setup some activities together, take the communication off the short talk and eye to eye sit across from the person over a meal thing. If he is as you say more of a physical flirter doing activities together will lend itself to communication being about the task at hand and may leave the door open to some physical flirtation from him easing things while getting to know each other better and lessen difficulties associated with short talk communication. You can probably both communicate sufficiently with each other it just takes time to ease troubles in the beginning and bolstering communication that comes more freely I would say would help here. An example would be go for a hike or walk where you can comment on the scenery, talk about your purple shoes and how you like that color, point out a cloud that looks like your mom's dog i.e. take it off tell me about yourself and move it more to a responsive banter about details on the moment and less details of his life and how he lives it. I'm guessing your scorp riser is on target with him being worth your time and all of that first house energy amongst other placements would be a good fit, if he is a fish worth your time I hope it works out for you.

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plutomercjup20
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posted July 07, 2014 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutomercjup20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just came to say that your guy has almost the exact same chart as my crush :0 except mine is a Scorpio rising (I think) but woah (I don't know how to read these kind of things so I can't tell you much ) but damn I was like ok this is creepy haha .... Was he born in 1994?

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Fireworks
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posted July 08, 2014 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fireworks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No way haha , Plutomercjup20 yes, he happens to be born in 1994 too. That's really funny actually, if they have the same chart, but hey, as I was saying, I'm not sure about his ascendant so he could very well be scorpio too.Seems like we have pretty similar romantic taste lol. How does your guy behave? I suppose you read my story, did you found any similarities? oh, and what's your sun sign and other placements? sorry about for seeming so hyper ) I'm just excited about this cute coincidence.
And nice to meet you by the way hope to hear from you again.

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Fireworks
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posted July 08, 2014 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fireworks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutomercjup20:
I just came to say that your guy has almost the exact same chart as my crush :0 except mine is a Scorpio rising (I think) but woah (I don't know how to read these kind of things so I can't tell you much ) but damn I was like ok this is creepy haha .... Was he born in 1994?

I posted a reply but it didn't show up so I'm sending it again, you made me curious now haha, the year is 1994 too.They were born the same day ) but the question is : do they have anything in common? I'm not an expert in reading charts either, but I can have a say on the more general aspects.Anyway, what planetary placements have you got? Don't tell me you're an aries too lol. It would explain a lot if we would have similar charts too ,not just the guys.
Can't wait for your reply , and nice to meet you !

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posted July 08, 2014 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fireworks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fishbull11:
Before you keep chasing are you sure he is one you want to chase after and expel energy on? I ask because your mars/venus square or opposition causes a discord between what you want and what you need...Maybe do a bit of homework to see if he is one who will stand by you and not bolt when your strength cuts him down a bit or other challenges come along.

And it's not only the mars/venus square, I plunged a little deeper as you suggested and I found there is a mars square pluto in the synastry and from the info I've collected concerning this aspect I get it now what was that whole competitivity and friction thing all about.I've read some threads here on the forum from knowflakes who've experienced the same aspect in their relationships,quoting some of them "there was powerful, rough attraction and sexual intrigue" or "I'd go from being completely infuatued and consumed with him to wanting to hurt him and hating him. I'd never felt so strongly about anybody in my life, positive and negative feelings combined." or "I wanted him to crumble, he drove me crazy.It definitely is an eye for an eye aspect. You can't even help it, you become your own worst enemy trying to get back at them all the while being completely infatuated with each other." This aspect is said to give both the partners a tendency to push one another's most reactive buttons which could give space to a dangerous and destructive test of wills. This in combination with the square of venus/mars is creating I guess all the havoc.But I'm gonna go with what you said and try to focus more on the present moment when we discuss, as far as engaging in a non-verbal activity ,I don't know about that, I can take the lead but I don't think he's going to like that fact very much.Gonna risk I can not thank you enough for the advice and everything.You're a cool cat !

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fishbull11
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posted July 08, 2014 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fishbull11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it is meant to be than it will probably work its way out one way or another, good luck!

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