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Knowflake

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posted July 08, 2014 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I caught myself today in hoping that a special someone was texting me, but it was not him… it's a taurus guy, and I don't like that I'm feeling this way, cause I have a boyfriend who I love.

But it annoys the heck out of me that I find this guy so interesting, and that I caught myself in wanting to actually write him…

Can you please say this synastry isn't good, that it is very very BAD for me?

EDIT: I have been texting the guy, and he seems interested in me and wants to meet me, he apparently also seems to don't care about the fact I got a boyfriend and isn't available

(I'm inside and a girl, he is the taurus guy, but I don't know his TOB)

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posted July 08, 2014 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I caught myself today in hoping that a special someone was texting me, but it was not him… it's a taurus guy, and I don't like that I'm feeling this way, cause I have a boyfriend who I love.

How long have you been with your boyfriend?

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posted July 08, 2014 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
How long have you been with your boyfriend?

1 year only, and I love him…. but somehow I just find this taurus guy interesting and he finds me interesting too, it's really kind of annoying….

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posted July 08, 2014 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly, there's nothing in your synastry that immediately draws my eye. I would say, at first brush, it's not the synastry. Post your composite, just to see what's going on there, even if the TOB isn't known.

Also, you may need to add in a few points -- see if the attraction is there:

EROS (433)
PSYCHE (16)
KARMA (3811)
DESTINN (6583)
VALENTINE (447)

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posted July 08, 2014 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
1 year only, and I love him…. but somehow I just find this taurus guy interesting and he finds me interesting too, it's really kind of annoying….

ONLY one year? Not 1.5 years?

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posted July 08, 2014 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Post your natal, too. And make sure you add JUNO.

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posted July 08, 2014 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
ONLY one year? Not 1.5 years?

Nope, 1 year actually this month, and still going strong, nothing there!! I think it must be me who is crazy lol

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Knowflake

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posted July 08, 2014 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our composite:

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Knowflake

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posted July 08, 2014 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
synastry with eros, psyche, valentine and destiny

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Knowflake

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posted July 08, 2014 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My natal:


And I'll also post the synastry with my current boyfriend
EDIT: With juno!!

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posted July 08, 2014 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Astrology aside for just a minute and I'm not trying to be mean or personally attacking. It's the general idea.

I get irked with this mental thinking that the grass could possibly be greener on the other side. If I'm not mistaken, you've mentioned something along these same lines 2 or 3 times now. You say that you love your boyfriend, but, something tells me that there are things missing there. It may be peaceful and loving, but that doesn't always equate to satisfaction. (case in point was my 1st marriage - we never fought until the end)

What about throwing up the synastry/composite for your current boyfriend as well?

I'm not the expert but I saw things that for me personally were like, "whoa!" Moon square Mars for example.

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posted July 08, 2014 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Well, Astrology aside for just a minute and I'm not trying to be mean or personally attacking. It's the general idea.

I get irked with this mental thinking that the grass could possibly be greener on the other side. If I'm not mistaken, you've mentioned something along these same lines 2 or 3 times now. You say that you love your boyfriend, but, something tells me that there are things missing there. It may be peaceful and loving, but that doesn't always equate to satisfaction. (case in point was my 1st marriage - we never fought until the end)

What about throwing up the synastry/composite for your current boyfriend as well?

I'm not the expert but I saw things that for me personally were like, "whoa!" Moon square Mars for example.


I don't know…I'm not used to a quiet and non-fighting relationship… I don't feel uncomfortable, but just slightly you know…paranoid:S
Also because he is a libra sun, libra venus and gemini mars and I'm virgo sun, scorpio venus and virgo mars. It's so far away from each other, so I don't get why we get along SO well…

But I also put up the synastry for me and my boyfriend

I don't think it's the synastry with each of them maybe… it's probably just my own messed up chart

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posted July 08, 2014 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My bad. I missed that you put it up already.

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posted July 08, 2014 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for stating it first, DF.

The truth is, NTN, you've got some serious 'unrest' in your chart -- energies seeking resolution. Your MOON opposing your SUN-MARS-VALENTINE, for example. You likely experienced a feeling of your parents being 'on opposite sides' throughout your childhood, and can unconsciously recreate this emotional environment in your adult relationships.

The MOON is your chartruler, so this is emphasised throughout your personality.

Another thing of note is a huge interception of your 5H, which holds a stellium: VENUS, PLUTO, EROS among them. This is problematic in several ways.

VENUS is also your 5R; anything and everything relating to your 5H is locked away IN your 5H, and with some intense energies: PLUTO and EROS. In SCO.

I see this when someone suffered emotional abuse as a youth, and carried the pattern into their first young adult relationships. Infidelity, betrayal, and abandonment tend to have been among these emotional scars.

That makes the individual uncertain about emotional and sexual intimacy. It's what I call the 'sex-love disconnect'. It can manifest as the inability to express sexual desire or make physical connexions (sexual introversion) or to have short-term, casual, emotionally insignificant sexual relations (extroversion).

The trouble is, both lack balance. The interception shows something that's hidden away; typically which we've locked away from the world and others. Given the sign and house, this is clearly out of fear and previous pain and betrayal.

I'll have to look more closely at your boyfriend's synastry, but, off-the-bat, it does sound as if there's a pattern here. Often, when we've first taken a chance to heal the disconnect in a healthy relationship -- we panic. We don't feel truly loved, because love means abuse and conflict. It's the only model we have, and learning a new one is tough.

But you're a natal SUN-VALENTINE. You've got tonnes of love to give -- but some healing to do before you can achieve the sort of healthy exchange you desire and deserve. I think you've taken the first step with your boyfriend, and you need to stick with it.

Besides, anyone who DOESN'T respect your relationship is NO ONE with whom you should EVER be involved. They just feel familiar and paradoxically 'safe' in their dysfunctional approach.

Be stronger. This is nothing more than siren song. It's temptation to throw you off your path. You're making progress. It's a long road. There's no need to stop now. You'll only lose what you've worked so hard to gain.

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posted July 08, 2014 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bear this in mind, too.

Your 11H is also intercepted, being directly across from your 5H. (There's a great discussion going on right now about it, by the way.) 5H is where we give love, and 11H is where we receive it.

See the connexion?

You're finding a missing piece supplied by the TAU SUN-VEN, since it's in your 'hidden away' 11H. He's probably very complimentary and makes you feel desirable.

It's likely that you don't feel the same way with your boyfriend, as he doesn't have placements in your 11H -- but this man puts VENUS, SUN, and MERC there.

Sometimes this comes down to love languages. Do you know yours? Are you craving a more physical expression than you used to? More touching, gift giving, and physical shows of caring and affection? Your boyfriend is probably very verbal and mental. It may be time for you both to talk about what may be quietly lacking in your relationship.

You should NEVER be afraid to do that. Communication is the best weapon we've got against conflict. Always use it.

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posted July 09, 2014 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Bear this in mind, too.

Your 11H is also intercepted, being directly across from your 5H. (There's a great discussion going on right now about it, by the way.) 5H is where we give love, and 11H is where we receive it.

See the connexion?

You're finding a missing piece supplied by the TAU SUN-VEN, since it's in your 'hidden away' 11H. He's probably very complimentary and makes you feel desirable.

It's likely that you don't feel the same way with your boyfriend, as he doesn't have placements in your 11H -- but this man puts VENUS, SUN, and MERC there.

Sometimes this comes down to love languages. Do you know yours? Are you craving a more physical expression than you used to? More touching, gift giving, and physical shows of caring and affection? Your boyfriend is probably very verbal and mental. It may be time for you both to talk about what may be quietly lacking in your relationship.

You should NEVER be afraid to do that. Communication is the best weapon we've got against conflict. Always use it.


Yeah I noticed that too that the taurus guy put so many planets in my 11th house, and something tells me the sign taurus is important for me in some way…. but the funny thing is that my boyfriend IS also that way you described someone who puts planets in my 11th house… he is actually not especially mental, but physical, giving me gifts and makes me feel very loved! Again, there is really nothing there, I love everything about him, he is completely perfect in my eyes! But it's also those thoughts that are scary and making me a bit paranoid…

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posted July 09, 2014 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Thanks for stating it first, DF.

The truth is, NTN, you've got some serious 'unrest' in your chart -- energies seeking resolution. Your MOON opposing your SUN-MARS-VALENTINE, for example. You likely experienced a feeling of your parents being 'on opposite sides' throughout your childhood, and can unconsciously recreate this emotional environment in your adult relationships.

The MOON is your chartruler, so this is emphasised throughout your personality.

Another thing of note is a huge interception of your 5H, which holds a stellium: VENUS, PLUTO, EROS among them. This is problematic in several ways.

VENUS is also your 5R; anything and everything relating to your 5H is locked away IN your 5H, and with some intense energies: PLUTO and EROS. In SCO.

I see this when someone suffered emotional abuse as a youth, and carried the pattern into their first young adult relationships. Infidelity, betrayal, and abandonment tend to have been among these emotional scars.

That makes the individual uncertain about emotional and sexual intimacy. It's what I call the 'sex-love disconnect'. It can manifest as the inability to express sexual desire or make physical connexions (sexual introversion) or to have short-term, casual, emotionally insignificant sexual relations (extroversion).

The trouble is, both lack balance. The interception shows something that's hidden away; typically which we've locked away from the world and others. Given the sign and house, this is clearly out of fear and previous pain and betrayal.

I'll have to look more closely at your boyfriend's synastry, but, off-the-bat, it does sound as if there's a pattern here. Often, when we've first taken a chance to heal the disconnect in a healthy relationship -- we panic. We don't feel truly loved, because love means abuse and conflict. It's the only model we have, and learning a new one is tough.

But you're a natal SUN-VALENTINE. You've got tonnes of love to give -- but some healing to do before you can achieve the sort of healthy exchange you desire and deserve. I think you've taken the first step with your boyfriend, and you need to stick with it.

Besides, anyone who DOESN'T respect your relationship is NO ONE with whom you should EVER be involved. They just feel familiar and paradoxically 'safe' in their dysfunctional approach.

Be stronger. This is nothing more than siren song. It's temptation to throw you off your path. You're making progress. It's a long road. There's no need to stop now. You'll only lose what you've worked so hard to gain.


It's a nice reply Indigo! I don't feel emotionally abused in childhood, my childhood was fine and unproblematic in a way… I even got my first boyfriend around 16 whom I was together with for several years, and we had a nice relationship without abuse, but then I started making trouble for myself, was unfaithful and stopped loving him. But to this day I still regret my behavior, and it was a really hard time.
From then on, all my relationship was short, and I had many smaller flings… so yes, I have been very extroverted in love, but not in any extreme way.
Then I met my ex-boyfriend who was very good for me, in the way that he really made me realize a lot of things, and made me reveal all my darker side(it was a pluto-relationship). It was a very abusive relationship, which ended badly and it was getting extreme, but before I could stop and take a break I met my current boyfriend and everything suddenly made sense to me.
I haven't believed in love at first sight before, but when I met my boyfriend everything changed, and it's the first time I have ever been in a nice relationship without problems of any sort…
But it's a pattern to me, that I start making troubles when a relationship is "too good to be true".
But you are right about that there is no reason for that now, all my friends also back me up about it, and everyone think he is very good for me, and he is!
So I just have to take myself together!

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posted July 09, 2014 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you ever think that you are not worthy of his love? Like... Too good to be true?
That no one could possibly really love you that much?

I ask because I've struggled with that and in some ways it can be a self-fulfilling prophecy if you're not careful.

I may be way off but it kind of sounded that way to me. If you do find yourself feeling that way perhaps that ball got rolling with the guilt you felt about being unfaithful with your first boyfriend.

Just a little theory but I'm very glad that you are wanting to keep your current relationship going. Just reading your messages about him, it seems like he is a really great guy and you have your friends backing you up. Just do him right and forget this other guy.

This other guy very well could be playing you knowing that you are taken and not fearing that you'll want a commitment.
There's a married woman at work who cheats a lot but with other married men because she only wants a fling. Fully intends to stay with her husband. It's pretty sad.

Edit
your Mars is EXACTLY where mine is (27-37 vs 27-41) your mercury exactly on my Pluto and Venus exactly on my Uranus.. Kind of crazy. I mean they are exact. lol
Even your sun is <1 degree of my mercury

Just thought that was crazy.


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posted July 09, 2014 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Do you ever think that you are not worthy of his love? Like... Too good to be true?
That no one could possibly really love you that much?

I ask because I've struggled with that and in some ways it can be a self-fulfilling prophecy if you're not careful.

I may be way off but it kind of sounded that way to me. If you do find yourself feeling that way perhaps that ball got rolling with the guilt you felt about being unfaithful with your first boyfriend.

Just a little theory but I'm very glad that you are wanting to keep your current relationship going. Just reading your messages about him, it seems like he is a really great guy and you have your friends backing you up. Just do him right and forget this other guy.

This other guy very well could be playing you knowing that you are taken and not fearing that you'll want a commitment.
There's a married woman at work who cheats a lot but with other married men because she only wants a fling. Fully intends to stay with her husband. It's pretty sad.

Edit
your Mars is EXACTLY where mine is (27-37 vs 27-41) your mercury exactly on my Pluto and Venus exactly on my Uranus.. Kind of crazy. I mean they are exact. lol
Even your sun is <1 degree of my mercury

Just thought that was crazy.


Haha interesting! Mercury-pluto is known for being the psychiatrist and patient! So very interesting:S

But yes, I do feel quilt about some things I did in past relationships… but I don't think I'm not worthy of my boyfriends love, in fact I just really feel extremely lucky that I met him, that's all…
He has already given me so much, I don't think I can return it all though, so in that way I also feel a bit quilty sometimes, for an example he gives me some gifts sometimes, where I can really feel he thought a lot about it (it's not expensive stuff, just small things that really means a lot to me), and I wish I was able to give him back in the same way…

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