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ineedlove
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posted January 21, 2005 12:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey everyone lets brainstorm!
Let's have a discussion on synastry aspects which one's are good and which ones are bad.

I'll start...
*Good*
1- Person A's Mars trined Person's B's Venus
=Adds sexual attraction. And is a true love aspect.

*Bad*
2- Person A's Mars's squared Person B's Mars.
=They may have a hard time getting along. They have differend energy styles. Different sexual behaivors.

*Good*
3- Person A's Venus trined Person B's Venus.
=They express affection simularly. They enjoy mutual entertainment activities, Simular tastes.

*Bad*
4- Person A's Mars in Person B's 4th house.
Brings aggression and arguments in the home, if they live together.

Everyone please post any good or bad synastry aspects you know of.

Thanks

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26taurus
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posted January 21, 2005 12:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont believe in *good* or *bad* aspects. Each aspect can have a positive and negative outlet.

The so called *bad* ones have their good points sometimes. If you had a synastry chart that was all trines and sextiles *good/easy* aspects, you would be bored out of your mind.

You need a few *bad* aspects to spice it up. They lend the excitement.

Also you could have two planets making a good aspect to each other, but at the same time *badly* aspecting numerous other planets. Or setting off the other person's *hard* aspects. So, as always, take the whole chart into account.

Especially with synastry - know the birth charts inside and out before you start comparing.

Just my two cents.

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Hecate
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posted January 21, 2005 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hecate     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting... Just one question, though. How do you figure out where your partner's planets fall in your chart and vice versa? This is where astrology gets confusing for me.

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aries-chick
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posted January 21, 2005 06:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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maya-v
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posted January 21, 2005 08:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me

Venus is in 11 Degrees Aries
Mars is in 10 Degrees Aries
Neptune is in 15 Degrees Sagittarius

Him

Venus is in 11 Degrees Sagittarius
Mars is in 20 Degrees Capricorn
Neptune is in 25 Degrees Sagittarius

I am confused by the charts in www.astro.com and was wondering if you guys could help me with this!

Thanks a lot


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ineedlove
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posted January 21, 2005 08:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey everyone!
And 26taurus you made a valid point so I'm going to change the topic around in another post!

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laglady
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posted January 21, 2005 08:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maya.. in extended chart selection you mean?
synastry charts are a comparison of the two people's charts, and their aspects..
composite takes two charts and combines them by finding midpoint between person 1 and person 2's planets, thus resulting in a chart showing the two people as a team, how they together experince the world..
there are also natal +transits.. your natal plus today's planetary locations
solar return chart shows the planetary placement of you birthday, used to detemine a yearly horoscope..

i know there are many others too, some of which i don't have any knowledge on..

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maya-v
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posted January 21, 2005 10:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, thanks LL! I never knew a lot those things - Im going right back and checking out my chart again!

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lalalinda
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posted January 21, 2005 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2 more hard aspects in a comparison (not a composite)

A's Mars conjunct B's Saturn (this RARELY works)
A's Saturn square b's Venus (you can work through this one but its hard)

great sexual aspects
A's Mars conjunct B's Uranus a lot of attraction, but it burns out quickly, if there are no other inneraspects to sustain it.

a good aspect that will help out considerably is A's Venus conjunct B's Ascendant

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moonstar77
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posted January 21, 2005 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstar77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi lalalinda,
How come the Mars conjunct Saturn aspect wouldn't work? I remember reading somewhere that this aspect can bring endurance to the relationship. Like if you have Person A's Mars conjunct Person B's Saturn, then Person A will activate (mars) Person B's responsibility (saturn) for example. I guess maybe I can see how it couldn't work, where the Mars person feels restricted by the Saturn person. But then, I feel because it's a conjunct here, it depends on the energies of the two people and how they will deal with it whereas perhaps the opposition/square would be a bit more stifling.

Oh yeah, wanted to add that I think a tight Sun square Neptune aspect is pretty bad, especially if it's a double whammy. Unless you both have some good Saturn realism there, I would think this could produce idealism that later turns into a huge disappointment later on. Or victim-savior mentalities. Have to be careful with this one, that's all.

I've also had my fair share of Sun opposite/square Saturn in synastry, and I always end up feeling either really scared about that person or really restricted by their presence. This is one of the worst aspects imo, since I've had to go through it more than enough.

Of course, all hard aspects can be worked on if you're both willing enough to go through some crap...I've been realizing that in every hard aspect, there is a great beautiful lesson that is waiting to be learned.

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lioneye68
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posted January 22, 2005 02:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ALL Saturn aspects are "hard", because Saturn IS a hard-knocks planet. You really can't label an aspect with a cookie-cutter formula of "good" or "bad". Many astrologers see no difference in how Saturn aspects play out, whether they be hard or soft aspects anyway. In fact, one astrologer who's work I was reading recently, stated that Venus square Saturn seems to be a common denominator among relationship/marriages that have stood the test of time. IE, married for 40 years, together as a couple for half their lives, etc, so just because it's a so called "hard" aspect, it definately shouldn't be ruled out as a binding aspect.

As for Saturn to Mars aspects, whether soft or hard, I think the manner in which they play out will depend hugely on the maturity level of the people involved and the condition of these planets in the natal charts. These two planets are so conflicted in the energy they vibrate to, that no aspect between them is easy. They are like oil and vinegar. They dont' mix. But, they can blend well together, with work, and some necessary shaking.

Trines are suppose to be wonderful, easy and harmonious aspects to have in synastry, but you know what? They are notoriously LAZY, and lead to people taking each other for granted. They make people a little too tolerant of each other's short comings, and the relationship becomes stagnant and old, because you are never challenged - you never feel like you have something to prove to the other. This is not good for enduring sparks in a relationship. Maybe ok for friendship, or siblings, but we need to get more out of intimate personal relationships, or the way we feel about each other becomes hum-drum, IMO.

For the strongest feel good aspects in synastry, my vote goes to Sun/Moon conjunctions, Venus/Mars conjunctions, Sun/Asc conjunctions, and mainly, conjunctions between personal planets and/or the asc/desc. axis. Nodal conjunctions are also found in significant numbers in life-long bonds. By far, the conjunction is the most bonding aspect, but when it comes to Saturn, it may be a bit too heavy, unless the person on the receiving end has a good, personal relationship with Saturn in their natal chart and knows how to placate the Saturn person's fears and demands.

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winky_winky
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posted May 18, 2008 10:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what about mercury contacts in synastry?

any insights? are they any indication of how sexually compatible u both are or would it only point to communication?

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Diandra23
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posted May 18, 2008 01:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wnky

i would say Mercury contacts could be very important if they are for instance rulers of sun/moon/ac or of house relationships

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Lara
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posted May 18, 2008 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now you see this is where l get soooooooo confused!

When l look at my synastry l see HUGE contradictions...

For example, you all say -

*Good*
1- Person A's Mars trined Person's B's Venus
=Adds sexual attraction. And is a true love aspect.

WE HAVE VENUS TRINE MARS

*Bad*
2- Person A's Mars's squared Person B's Mars.
=They may have a hard time getting along. They have differend energy styles. Different sexual behaivors.

WE HAVE MARS SQUARED MARS

SO, DOES THIS MEAN WE WILL HAVE SEXUAL ATTRACTION, BE IN LOVE YET ALSO NOT GET ALONG? !!!

THEN LALALINDA, BLESS HER, SAYS:
A's Mars conjunct B's Saturn (this RARELY works)
A's Saturn square b's Venus (you can work through this one but its hard)
WE HAVE MARS CONJUNCT SATURN 1DEG
SATURN TRINE MARS 1DEG
NO SATURN/VENUS HARD ASPECTS

great sexual aspects
A's Mars conjunct B's Uranus a lot of attraction, but it burns out quickly, if there are no other inneraspects to sustain it.
NO MARS URANUS, ONLY VENUS CONJUNCT URANUS.

I think a tight Sun square Neptune aspect is pretty bad, especially if it's a double whammy.
WE HAVE SUN SQUARE NEPTUNE 1DEG

SO HOW DOES IT PAN OUT WHEN YOU HAVE BOTH GOOD/BAD IN THE SAME ASPECT PLEASE?

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Mhax
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posted May 18, 2008 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mhax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to many astrologers the aspects with Saturn specially the hard ones with the personal planets are present in all the long last relationships. So I can not say that are bad.

According to me the worst aspect are

Mars opposition/square Mars
(different ways of energy, is like Sun square Sun but worse)

Venus opposition/square Venus
I dont know why but this is the worst aspect in a relationship, Why?? because the way of how you express love, your likes or dislikes, your tastes are completly different is not like the same way of the aspects of Mars is more sutil but they can not understand really together in a relationship.

The best ones

Venus trine/sextil Venus
Venus trine/sextil Moon
Venus trine/sextil Neptune
Mars trine/sextil Sun
Mars trine/sextil Moon

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darkdreamer
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posted May 18, 2008 03:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I say, the natal chart and how you deal with it yourself decides what will work (in synastry) for your and what won`t.

I can only repeat, my parents have the dw of Mars-SAturn and it works for them. But they have natal Saturn-aspects: my dad has his Saturn conjunct ASC and my Mum has SAturn square her ASC.
I think they don`t only deal with this Mars-Saturn-aspect but it has been a necessity for them. Neither of them would have been happy with a superficial, easy-going relationship. It`s not what they want, even though my Dad has a Stellium in Aquarius and Mars in Libra, so he wants more easygoing than my mum. lol
But he also has Moon in Taurus and ASC in Virgo conjunct Saturn with ASC-ruler in Capricorn.

I for my part will always need strong MErcury-aspects in my synastries. Interestingly often it`s the man`s Mercury that is strongly aspected.

Like ex1:

His Mercury:
square my Venus
trine my Mars
trine my Neptune
opposite my pluto
trine my NN
trine my ASC
conjunct my IC

ex. 2:
HIs Mercury:
conjunct my Mars
conjunct my NEptune
sextile my Pluto
conjunct my NN
conjunct my ASC
trine my IC


Can you see the pattern?

But the thing is this is MY pattern; it will not be the same for someone else.
It is my pattern because Mercury rules my 7th house and is conjunct my Sun.

So, I crave MErcury, and I also crave a man`s Venus to be in an Earth sign, most of the times it`s in Capricorn (like my Venus) and very often it is aspected by Pluto in his natal chart.
I need this because my own Pluto is squaring my Venus and Venus rules my 5th house of romance. IT is sad, but this obsessive, dark placements really gets my motor going.
So, there is often a Venus-Pluto-aspect in my synastries (or interestingly an Eros-Pluto-aspect).

Will this be needed for everyone?
No, there are people who detest Pluto aspects or Saturn aspects in their synastries (even though the Saturn-rule seems to be a pretty consistent one).


So, as nice as those lists are (I love doing astrological lists, as you probably noticed), you always have to check them against your natal chart and what you personally need.

DD

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Lara
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posted May 18, 2008 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree DD

I have natal saturn trine my AC and my b/f has natal saturn exact square his AC


I see the pattern.. i have it too with Uranus, being ruler of my 7th. My boyfriend's venus is conjunct uranus ad l love it! Most people would absolutely turn their noses up at it though!


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darkdreamer
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posted May 18, 2008 04:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know THAT pattern.

There was a time I was intensely drawn to guys with Sun or even better Moon in the beginning of Scorpio, closely conjunct my Uranus.

I LOVED the excitement it brought (I have Moon in Aquarius after all), but I drove them crazy, I guess (unless they had a Moon-Uranus-aspect themselves, which only few had).

DD

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Lara
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posted May 18, 2008 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol
yeah. I dig.

I think its balances with me and my twin soul though cos my 7th house is uranus and my uranus is conjunct his venus/uranus conjunction
LOL

his 7th house ruler is venus LOL so effectively our 7th rulers are conjunct!
plus his venus is exact conjunct my eros and exact semi sextile my juno *sigh*

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darkdreamer
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posted May 18, 2008 04:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

you deliberately try to make me envy you?
That is true-Leo-style I guess.

Congratulations, what a wonderful placement to have, the DSC-rulers conjunct along with Eros. Love and sex, what more could one ask for?

on a random note:
somehow I feel a abit hyper, intoxicated. But I haven`t even drunk anything. Dunno know why I am so hyper right now.

DD

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Lara
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posted May 18, 2008 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you deliberately try to make me envy you?
That is true-Leo-style I guess.

Congratulations, what a wonderful placement to have, the DSC-rulers conjunct along with Eros. Love and sex, what more could one ask for?

Seriously, l am not. This is my TAUREAN SUN SPEAKING!!! lol
In truth, l was typing it directly off the chart and l only realized it as l typed it that it was all conjunct EROS!

I don't do all that envy crap... i'm not into jewelry either.

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posted May 21, 2008 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally agree with Mhax here.
mars square mars is a hard aspect to deal with, so much struggles.. one irritating the other one.. but of course if you have mars square mars with venus in a good aspect with moon or sun and positive saturn-personal planet aspects then it is easier to continue the relationship.
we can't say 'no,this relationship never works'by looking at one or two negative aspects.We have to analyse everything.Synastry,composite,davison and natal charts of the two.

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Hey
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posted May 21, 2008 01:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know, but get the Libras AWAY FROM ME.

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Mhax
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posted May 21, 2008 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mhax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venusmars, I agree with you, we can not only watch one aspect we have to look the whole chart.

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Arnicka
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posted May 22, 2008 12:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good: Mercury conj Venus, Moon conj Venus, Venus conj Jupiter, Moon trine Jupiter

Not so good: Mercury sq Mars, Sun opp Pluto

oh, Winky ~ for me Mercury Venus are the best kisses ever

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