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ilunatique
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posted July 13, 2014 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Ilunatique,

You will need to email Randall so that he can either unlock the thread or delete the info you need deleted. Also, you have personal info - name, dob, place of birth etc - showing in the charts you post. These are, therefore, traceable. The details should be deleted before you post the charts - you could replace the ones already posted.

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posted July 13, 2014 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ilunatique,

You will need to email Randall so that he can either unlock the thread or delete ht info you need deleted. Also, you have personal info - name, dob, place of birth etc - showing in the charts you post. These are, therefore, traceable. The details can be deleted before you post the charts - you could replace the ones already posted.


Thanks!, the birthday/name doesnt matter. Just some pics of him and lots of requested info about his life. Deleting the whole thread would be a good idea too.

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Ilunatique,

Personal details do matter - the info you've posted can be easily traced to the individuals (by people with evil intent) and it simply isn't safe to leave in a public forum. Especially, if he holds a high profile job.

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posted July 13, 2014 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Ilunatique,

Personal details do matter - the info you've posted can be easily traced to the individuals (by people with evil intent) and it simply isn't safe to leave in a public forum. Especially, if he holds a high profile job.


I'll fix that too, then. Tomorrow. Im from a phone right now and its two and a half in the morning. he was more concerned about the other bits of information though.

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posted July 13, 2014 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Post the link, and I will open the thread, so you can edit out details.

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posted July 13, 2014 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Post the link, and I will open the thread, so you can edit out details.


Thank you, Randall)

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posted July 13, 2014 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for your pain ilunatique ....no matter if it's appropriate or not, it still hurts! If your sad....I'm so sorry, please know there are many, many people who care and said what they said out of fear of you getting hurt, they didn't mean to hurt you more or be mean...they were scared for you.
Just know this will pass! What's so great about being young is you will have experiences that will make you realize as intense as this feels, you will love again and find happiness again....it's like the first time you taste ice cream it's like OMG....that's the best thing on the face of the earth....and then you start to realize there is other flavors and some have cherries and others have cookies and they can sometimes be even better than the 1st.

Please let your self move on and forget the anger that was thrown at you....ppl were getting lost in the inappropriateness of the relationship and lost sight that your a person with a heart that hurts and breaks just like everyone else, just because it wasn't right or too young doesn't mean it's ok to hurt you....I'm sure somewhere in it all there was good intentions on all parts.

As a child I would try to be even more delicate with you...you don't have the maturity to handle things in an appropriate way at times and anger makes young ppl feel forced or pushed towards doing things that make situations worse not better...I'm glad you did such a great job and ended this by telling the whole truth, your very strong!

I'm sorry and I hope you can forgive the anger thrown at you as you heal from all this. Please know ppl care about you so much! I would cry with you if you needed it!
I'm a moderator in asteroid astrology....email me if you need to.

What he said about you gravitating towards older men is true....please be careful it's very dangerous to get involved with men that are interested in girls your age. Usually it's a lack of maturity, emotional issues if not straight out sexual illness.
Plus if they like girls your age....what are they going to do with you when you grow into the amazing woman you will be soon?
You want someone for life, not only the next few years, you know what I mean? Let yourself grow up....everything is very different than it seems when your the age you are....you will find that out in time and with more maturity. Just oh slow, you have the rest of your life to be adult you have very few precious years yo be a kid.

You deserve a lifetime of love, you don't deserve to start out your life with a jerk who breaks your heart as it's just opening up...before it's even got the chance to blossom.

Can I suggest trying to bond more with your parents open up to them and tell them what happened....even if it's hard. Let them protect you if they will, please?

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posted July 13, 2014 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sag_stellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm glad you confessed, I'm glad he's sensible enough to withdraw and I'm glad it's over. I still hope that you seek some help/support for it - and ideally, your parents would know about your recent history - but no one can force you to do that.

I hope you have more suitable romances ahead! good luck!

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posted July 13, 2014 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm glad you were honest.

Please don't bring into what was clearly dysfunction something that is beyond your present understanding (i.e., Twin Flames).

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posted July 13, 2014 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Post the link, and I will open the thread, so you can edit out details.

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posted July 13, 2014 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In closing this subject, I'll leave you with this:

I don't doubt there wasn't unresolved karma between you. Being so young, you just have no real grasp of how many times this will likely happen in your life. This is the first of many. Someone of you exceptional talent and cognitive advancement -- it's easy to feel ahead of the game. You won't realise how little you really knew until you're a lot older. I know I certainly didn't!

Karmic Partners come together for a specific purpose -- typically to clear karma or balance a present inequality. I do believe that the two of you did that. I'm glad you can have true closure and move on.

If you'd like, I can evaluate your natal, alone, in regards to whether you might be a Twin Flame. But this connexion? That was NOT a Twin Flame connexion.

You don't have any grasp yet. Some day, you very well might.

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posted July 13, 2014 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was curious, so had to take a look.

You have a 1° conjunction of ISIS and OSIRIS natally. This is almost a guarantee you will have a long-term relationship with either a Twin Flame or high level Soulmate -- depending upon your own soul contracts and missions.

He, interestingly enough, has one of the others; it's important that he, too, finds the Soulmate with whom he's to spread the message of unconditional love.

I believe this relationship was to teach you both some things. It seems the lesson has been learnt, and now you can both move on from each other with full disclosure -- AND closure.

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There was no hatred in that thread. Just people caring for you, Luna. When you will have a 14 year old daughter (or son), you will not like her to date or to be "romanced" by a 40 year old man. Why don't you put yourself in the others shoes a bit?

He has a daughter himself and I'm sure he won't like that either, I'm sure even if she is of "legal age", he won't like it.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

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posted July 14, 2014 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im so glad this is over!
U know we were all worried over this!
I dont think ppl hated you or him. As soon we noticed your age,it sparked some protective instincts! No decent adult would cheer a relationship btwn a minor and an adult!
End of the day im so happy u r safe and that he is a good guy : )
U take care, Luna.


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posted July 14, 2014 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
Sorry for your pain ilunatique ....no matter if it's appropriate or not, it still hurts! If your sad....I'm so sorry, please know there are many, many people who care and said what they said out of fear of you getting hurt, they didn't mean to hurt you more or be mean...they were scared for you.
Just know this will pass! What's so great about being young is you will have experiences that will make you realize as intense as this feels, you will love again and find happiness again....it's like the first time you taste ice cream it's like OMG....that's the best thing on the face of the earth....and then you start to realize there is other flavors and some have cherries and others have cookies and they can sometimes be even better than the 1st.

Please let your self move on and forget the anger that was thrown at you....ppl were getting lost in the inappropriateness of the relationship and lost sight that your a person with a heart that hurts and breaks just like everyone else, just because it wasn't right or too young doesn't mean it's ok to hurt you....I'm sure somewhere in it all there was good intentions on all parts.

As a child I would try to be even more delicate with you...you don't have the maturity to handle things in an appropriate way at times and anger makes young ppl feel forced or pushed towards doing things that make situations worse not better...I'm glad you did such a great job and ended this by telling the whole truth, your very strong!

I'm sorry and I hope you can forgive the anger thrown at you as you heal from all this. Please know ppl care about you so much! I would cry with you if you needed it!
I'm a moderator in asteroid astrology....email me if you need to.

What he said about you gravitating towards older men is true....please be careful it's very dangerous to get involved with men that are interested in girls your age. Usually it's a lack of maturity, emotional issues if not straight out sexual illness.
Plus if they like girls your age....what are they going to do with you when you grow into the amazing woman you will be soon?
You want someone for life, not only the next few years, you know what I mean? Let yourself grow up....everything is very different than it seems when your the age you are....you will find that out in time and with more maturity. Just oh slow, you have the rest of your life to be adult you have very few precious years yo be a kid.

You deserve a lifetime of love, you don't deserve to start out your life with a jerk who breaks your heart as it's just opening up...before it's even got the chance to blossom.

Can I suggest trying to bond more with your parents open up to them and tell them what happened....even if it's hard. Let them protect you if they will, please?



Oh Gabby… you….. : ) Special one!
I’ve got over the pain a while ago, I feel sooo much better. Free, happy and brand new. Many people helped me get over this the whole month of June and this part of July – I talked to many many many sweethearts about this and managed to detach myself wholly thanks to every rational word I have invested in this together with the rest. I no longer end in sobbing violently for the rest of the day if I just dare to think about him. You don’t know how hard it was for me in the past to just write about this and try to put it in words. I’d get so so so emotional. I and mostly my subconscious no longer associates every love story from a film with us too. That thing especially… was very annoying. Me and V’s story was like a mix of Ruby Sparks and Her, honestly. Then multiply it by 600. I’m just soooo done with this.
I know no one wanted to hurt me or put me in pain. I really feel that this relationship has a strong karmic and psychic energy and it doesn't make sense in practical terms and often confuses people. This is the effect of Neptune/12h. You can't rationalize it and people won’t understand it and people will always misunderstand it because it seems so odd and "out there" to them. This relationship was super strong but its frustrating because nobody will ever really understand it because of the real intensity of emotions here no one will ever know how it felt like, and I CAN’T manifest it to "normal" energy to make you understand. Because it will just sound like some dreamy love BS story as someone put it before, eh?
I know they were just saying that because he is a older male. I am not saying they're ignorant, on the contrary, but this a sore spot for most adults, yes, a relationship between a 14 year old and a 37 year old is NOT okay, but the love here just went too far. But things DO happen for a reason, and it seems like this happened for us to grow and change in our own ways. I’m sooo okay with it. It was for the good, after all.
I don’t have problems with the anger which was “thrown at me”. I believe that it was more thrown in V’s face though, and THAT made me very very sad. But what could you do if no one knew the truth behind this even though I mentioned all the time -that he’s a GOOD GUY and that this was just LOVE. But oh right, how can a 37 year old just feel love when it got to relating with a 14 year old? No girl, he was sick, he was siiiiick. But he isn’t. He isn’t. I actually feel like I’m the sick one because I got him with serious mental issues now and I might have killed his general emotion of love for life.
I’m not attracted to old guys –but I have always been relating to older, MATURE people more than I manage to relate with people my age. I can never get to an appropriate level of speech of the kids these days. I just can’t. I’ll end in talking about Serghei Nikolaevici Lazarev or how Kabbalah is so freaking cool or damn, did you hear about how you can change your DNA structure thanks to positive thinking or that annunaki lead the whole freaking world and that moon is transiting my Mars and that’s why im so tired, sorry. And this mostly drives all the people my age away. I’m too “STRANGE”.
I had a period in my life when kids were afraid to sit in a bench with me because they considered me a satanic witch, they were LEGIT afraid of me because I’m more… what? Strange? I still don’t understand it. We’re all strange in our own ways. But now I’m the absolute personification of STRANGE?
I have a great relationship with my mom. She knows what happened. She helped me get over it too. She graduated an astrology university here and is in involved in the huge circle of spiritualists and astrologers from my country. She’s a public figure, presented horoscopes at TV, etc. In August I’m going with her in a camp for a few days in which all the astrologers/spiritualists from my country will be present . : ) I’ll be the only underaged kid from there. I can’t wait though, it will be a great experience. People have their own presentations prepared and it will be lots of fun – games involving lots of astro knowledge and so on. And again, I’ll be interacting with mature people. I can’t wait.
Quite the ramble… where am I even going? I’m very very happy now, Gabby : ) I’m free, out of my shell, brand new! Thank you.

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Originally posted by sag_stellium:
I'm glad you confessed, I'm glad he's sensible enough to withdraw and I'm glad it's over. I still hope that you seek some help/support for it - and ideally, your parents would know about your recent history - but no one can force you to do that.

I hope you have more suitable romances ahead! good luck!


Thank you, fella Sag!. It seems like I change thanks to weird relationships like these. Must be my NN in 7th though.

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posted July 14, 2014 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by geminigal2805:
Im so glad this is over!
U know we were all worried over this!
I dont think ppl hated you or him. As soon we noticed your age,it sparked some protective instincts! No decent adult would cheer a relationship btwn a minor and an adult!
End of the day im so happy u r safe and that he is a good guy : )
U take care, Luna.


Hi again Gemini ! : ) I remember you, you were very nice.
I also agree there was no hate, just maternal protectiveness . I’m okay with it, its just V and his analyzing*rolls eyes*
Take care too Gemini, thank you

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
There was no hatred in that thread. Just people caring for you, Luna. When you will have a 14 year old daughter (or son), you will not like her to date or to be "romanced" by a 40 year old man. Why don't you put yourself in the others shoes a bit?
He has a daughter himself and I'm sure he won't like that either, I'm sure even if she is of "legal age", he won't like it.


I know, I know, I know Leo : ). V said it, mostly because all of the people were protecting me, not him, I guess. So he sensed it as hate? Perhaps. I agree to everyone here, don’t worry. I know this wasn’t OK, but It happened for a reason.

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posted July 14, 2014 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I was curious, so had to take a look.

You have a 1° conjunction of ISIS and OSIRIS natally. This is almost a guarantee you will have a long-term relationship with either a Twin Flame or high level Soulmate -- depending upon your own soul contracts and missions.

He, interestingly enough, has one of the others; it's important that he, too, finds the Soulmate with whom he's to spread the message of unconditional love.

I believe this relationship was to teach you both some things. It seems the lesson has been learnt, and now you can both move on from each other with full disclosure -- AND closure.



Hi Indigo) You told me to not bring up the TF thing again, and I agree, but I couldn't handle myself and I did a 11th harmonic for the heck of it....... Sorry

Mine


His

By mentally doing a synastry of both harmonics, my 19 23' moon and 23 46' venus is exactly conjunct his 19 37' sun and Amor/Siva.
Then my 12 12' Saturn falls right on his 12 19' Psyche and 16 18' ASC
His 4 13' Neptune on my 2 19' ASC
His 24 28' mercury conjunct my 24 30' Osiris
My 1 51' NN exactly conjunct his 1 56' Venus, Mars and Union.
My 24 43' Siva right on his 24 15' Isis.

I also played around more and did a chart of the exact day we started talking - his first hi - our first contact - our bond waking up again.
Look at this beautiful Yod... and the center is all karma/saturn/NN. They fall right on his own NN and Uranus from his natal, I think.

Venus cj Pluto, Mars, Moon, south node............

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Luna,

You are very bright, funny and a good writer. You should be proud of yourself.

So glad that you've put the misery of this relationship behind you. Perhaps karmic debts have been paid, and no more. Strong links in charts can be seen alongside quite subtle or brief relationships between people. It is often difficult to comprehend why. One wonders what those amazing aspects amounted to. Perhaps they did in a parallel universe . So, whilst you may wish to understand why and wherefore, the very same aspects can mean a lot or very little.

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posted July 14, 2014 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You said...
" I’ll end in talking about Serghei Nikolaevici Lazarev or how Kabbalah is so freaking cool or damn, did you hear about how you can change your DNA structure thanks to positive thinking or that annunaki lead the whole freaking world and that moon is transiting my Mars and that’s why im so tired, sorry. And this mostly drives all the people my age away. I’m too “STRANGE”. "


Trust me bringing this stuff up to ppl in their 30's or 40's still sometimes makes them want to sit as far from you as possible....it's just not kids your age, it's ppl in general.

I absolutely adore the science behind spirituality and yes you can change your DNA with your thoughts because your thoughts create emotions, and your emotions are what manifest life.
If you can stop yourself from fearing and force yourself to start believing hoping and trusting you will become a healthier person and rise your spiritual vibration which in turn unlocks DNA that allows new potential, new life and a new you!!
Done stop learning! If I'd known this stuff at your age.....my life today would a billion times different than it is....as in better!!
Issue is things like getting involved with situations and men that are harmful can derail your ability to stop fear, to focus n hope and remain positive so you manifest the life you deserve!
Keep on top of the things that are draining on you so your life is amazing and everything you ever wanted!!

As far as the ppl who think your demonic.....lol
They are the idiots not you, if they really think that then they will they will manifest it all on their own...it won't be through you, it's their issue and has nothing to do with you.
Let them be, don't take them to seriously and don't be surprised if someday they are the ones coming to you saying they are sorry!

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posted July 15, 2014 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
You said...
" I’ll end in talking about Serghei Nikolaevici Lazarev or how Kabbalah is so freaking cool or damn, did you hear about how you can change your DNA structure thanks to positive thinking or that annunaki lead the whole freaking world and that moon is transiting my Mars and that’s why im so tired, sorry. And this mostly drives all the people my age away. I’m too “STRANGE”. "


Trust me bringing this stuff up to ppl in their 30's or 40's still sometimes makes them want to sit as far from you as possible....it's just not kids your age, it's ppl in general.

I absolutely adore the science behind spirituality and yes you can change your DNA with your thoughts because your thoughts create emotions, and your emotions are what manifest life.
If you can stop yourself from fearing and force yourself to start believing hoping and trusting you will become a healthier person and rise your spiritual vibration which in turn unlocks DNA that allows new potential, new life and a new you!!
Done stop learning! If I'd known this stuff at your age.....my life today would a billion times different than it is....as in better!!
Issue is things like getting involved with situations and men that are harmful can derail your ability to stop fear, to focus n hope and remain positive so you manifest the life you deserve!
Keep on top of the things that are draining on you so your life is amazing and everything you ever wanted!!

As far as the ppl who think your demonic.....lol
They are the idiots not you, if they really think that then they will they will manifest it all on their own...it won't be through you, it's their issue and has nothing to do with you.
Let them be, don't take them to seriously and don't be surprised if someday they are the ones coming to you saying they are sorry!



Honestly I find mature people more open to these things..., or its just the people I bump into. Though there is no chance you'll manage to have a steady conversation with a kid my age about these things. Never happened to me... and I talked to many.
Oh science... I don't believe in science. I just can't... I feel like it will be the death of us. Turning everything into robot and abandoning everything spiritual. I was just seeing a commercial these days - Don't believe in miracles! Believe in technology. It's like - don't believe in God! believe in a piece of metal. it's just awful. Some scientific things do apply though - yes, I've been studying a lot of quantum physics because I visually sense/see energy flowing around/fluid electricity. We live in a huge network of energy... everything is energy.
It would be so easy Gabby with all this DNA thing! Just be happy and smile and be positive all the time. It's pretty hard nowadays, especially when stress is mostly the ruling emotion. I try though, I try. But I always get so sad about little things no one really cares about. I also sense the energy of the people on the street quite well.. It's a nice game but sometimes I get so so so sad. So many troubled people.
I know, i know, i know. After all not everyone needs to be so open or like us. Yin yang, right? We live in that kind of world. We need good and bad.

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