posted July 16, 2014 05:57 PM            

I'm curious what synastry or aspects in a person's chart make them just not afraid of sharing too much private information with the public and strangers?

posted July 16, 2014 06:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
So there's this couple that I used to watch on Youtube and at one point really enjoyed watching. Well they've grown in popularity and as they've grown it's clear as day they're only about money. They do daily vlogs and just a few days ago they put one up and titled it "taking a break from each other" and throughout the entire video they do nothing but vent about each other and share things that just shouldn't be on the internet.

I'm curious what synastry or aspects in a person's chart make them just not afraid of sharing too much information with the public and strangers?

I deleted their charts so I don't remember their birthdays, but do know that the husband is an Aries and the wife is a Aquarius.

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Whew. NOT my husband and I. For a moment there, I was worried!

posted July 16, 2014 06:15 PM            

Which props for them!

posted July 17, 2014 11:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
It's not good information to be sharing though
It'd be different if it were but it's not good LOL. There's nothing positive about being "open" when it comes to putting down your husband or wife. They all but show the actual fight.

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I don't understand what you are saying but open relationships are not about putting each other down; its about loving freely without expectations, jealousy or possessiveness and that is hard. I think we are too individualistic and have too much of a sense of ownership and survival instincts in addition to a huge fear of loss for the human species to pull this off successfully at this point in time.

posted July 17, 2014 11:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Hahahaha why were you worried lol?

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posted July 17, 2014 12:03 PM            

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We are all one but down here we are individuals who are trying to survive so the idea of sharing one another makes us scream inside but I feel that is more biology taking over than spirit.

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Congratulations, this is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. So hunting for fresh meat aka open relationship is spiritual and sexual devotion to the person one (hopefully) loves is biology? Mercy...

posted July 17, 2014 12:12 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
I don't understand what you are saying but open relationships are not about putting each other down; its about loving freely without expectations, jealousy or possessiveness and that is hard. I think we are too individualistic and have too much of a sense of ownership and survival instincts in addition to a huge fear of loss for the human species to pull this off successfully at this point in time.

We are all one but down here we are individuals who are trying to survive so the idea of sharing one another makes us scream inside but I feel that is more biology taking over than spirit. I personally don't share my husband nor do I think I could share my ex but intellectually I can see a different way.

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I know what an open relationship is. I happen to be in a very open and committed relationship with my husband.

I meant that this couple isn't open, they bad mouth each other to their cameras any time it's available, which isn't cool neither should it be on the internet. They broadcast things that the public shouldn't know, it's not the public's business or concern. But anything to get people to comment on their videos or to click on them they'll do it to make more money.

I was wondering what in synastry or a person's chart makes them act the way this couple does, literally sharing too much private information.

posted July 17, 2014 12:18 PM            

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I happen to be in a very open relationship with my husband.

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posted July 17, 2014 12:23 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Not the kind of open Amelia meant

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Oooooooh I get. I was just confused because her very first response didn't make sense. No I'm not in an open relationship with hubs. He's mine and all mine! I'll stab those that think otherwise.

posted July 17, 2014 12:33 PM            

Blasting your personal relationship problems in public instead of working them out in private.
Barbie is saying relationship problems should be private.
Astrologically, what would make a couple put their relationship problems in public?

Hopefully that clears this up.
Mercury isn't retrograde again is it? lol

Barbie is thinking of openness as honesty, not whoring yourself. Just so that's clear.

posted July 17, 2014 01:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
He's mine and all mine! I'll stab those that think otherwise.

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We weren't meant to share, marriage is a commitment between 2 not several others.
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I understand that is what marriage means to you and most people today yes; I am aware.

But there are people who define marriage differently; and how we view marriage is dictated by social norms; it is a social construct.

Recently marriage was an arrangement purely about survival and people did not get married for love; this is actually a very new phenomena.

posted July 17, 2014 01:16 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
This thread is about:

Blasting your personal relationship problems in public instead of working them out in private.
Barbie is saying relationship problems should be private.
Astrologically, what would make a couple put their relationship problems in public?

Hopefully that clears this up.
Mercury isn't retrograde again is it? lol

Barbie is thinking of openness as honesty, not whoring yourself. Just so that's clear.

Just trying to get this train on the right tracks.

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I never thought that barbie was talking about open relationships or like you like to put it "whoring yourself out." My comment was in response to a comment made by Indigo and just a theory I had about indigo's marriage bc it is such a mystery and I like her and like to come up with theories and my comment towards Indigo's marriage was respectful and theoretical and probably wrong. I was been playful.

Everyone is different and I try to be diversity conscious and let couples define their boundaries without looking down on them or belittling them bc they chose a different life style from the norm.

posted July 17, 2014 01:18 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
I understand that is what marriage means to you and most people today yes; I am aware.

But there are people who define marriage differently; and how we view marriage is dictated by social norms; it is a social construct.

Recently marriage was an arrangement purely about survival and people did not get married for love; this is actually a very new phenomena.

In fact still today in many parts of the world people don't get married for love.

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Wow! Thank you, Amelia. I saw that comment and wasn't sure exactly what to say. I'm certainly not going to be antagonistic, but that sort of absolutist attitude is just not necessary. Marriage is hardly defined in the traditional sense anymore. Anyone who is unwilling to contemplate otherwise is being a bit hidebound.

posted July 17, 2014 01:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
So there's this couple that I used to watch on Youtube and at one point really enjoyed watching. Well they've grown in popularity and as they've grown it's clear as day they're only about money. They do daily vlogs and just a few days ago they put one up and titled it "taking a break from each other" and throughout the entire video they do nothing but vent about each other and share things that just shouldn't be on the internet.

I'm curious what synastry or aspects in a person's chart make them just not afraid of sharing too much private information with the public and strangers?

I deleted their charts so I don't remember their birthdays, but do know that the husband is an Aries and the wife is a Aquarius.

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Perhaps their composite has Sag rising aspecting the ruler of the chart's MC??

posted July 17, 2014 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
OMG I am not close minded. Please don't even go there. I am aware of people making a living off of youtube. I know. What this couple does is put on a show and let the viewers in on things that aren't anyone else's business but their own. It allows the viewers to judge them even more so in those areas, it's not normal nor anything to look up to.

Can we please just answer the question and not argue about our own personal views of marriage here.

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I never said I look up to them!!!!!! But I do admire anyone that can pull off an open relationship in its highest form that comes from a place of love.

I dont loook down on them either as I have not even seeing their videos.

***My guess is that in their composites they have the ruler of their AC and other personal planets aspecting their MC or the ruler of their MC and possibly the ruler of their 2nd house..

posted July 17, 2014 01:40 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Perhaps their composite has Sag rising aspecting the ruler of the chart's MC??

Or ruler of their chart aspects ruler of their MC....

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posted July 17, 2014 01:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
It's not good information to be sharing though
It'd be different if it were but it's not good LOL. There's nothing positive about being "open" when it comes to putting down your husband or wife. They all but show the actual fight.

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THIS I agree with. Entirely. My husband and I give our listeners a raw, authentic view inside of kink, BDSM, and modern relating practises. But we (usually) treat each other with respect and dignity. (My husband is a SUN-PRIAPUS-NESSUS conjunction in the 10H. He gets a bit ... pushy. My SUN-PLUTO-BML just pushes right back -- but diplomatically. Libra, natch.)

As my 'boyfriend' is, first, a dear friend of mine, I've said a few things in confidence back when my marriage was -- let's just say, not in the state it should be. I'm proud to say my husband and I have undertaken the work and done a total 180º in regards to how we communicate with each other, rebuilding lost intimacy and learning how to REALLY be married to each other.

So, akin to my girlfriends, I'm sure he's gotten an earful before -- when I was desperate or feeling very lost. But my listeners? NO. We (try) to present a unified front. And, 98% of the time, it's been successful.

I say 98%, because my husband has been verbally and emotionally abusive in the past. He would even do this on the air. I actually had a few listeners who had become friends (some former clients) show concern.

Nowadays, it's more like ... Sicilian men. They're a trip. You've got to be a bit 'bigger' than they are. If they love you -- your trust is not misplaced. If they don't -- it's time to reconsider your options. (I've noticed a pattern with these men which is similar to machismo. Not to stereotype -- as everything has its exceptions, but there's a pattern there.)

But if you're in the public eye, being disrespectful -- especially to your loved ones -- is NOT a good practise. And, if you're one of the many (though still minority) who are in a non-traditional relationship, respect should be given to ALL -- with a sense of priority maintained where it's due.

posted July 17, 2014 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Maybe, it makes sense, I'm not sure though. I think it's Aries. Their relationship is very Arian IMO.

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That makes sense...aries came up in my mind...

Perhaps they have composite mars conjunct uranus aspecting their MC?!

posted July 17, 2014 01:46 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
I think maybe they have an open relationship.. "sharing too much"

Which props for them!

I think you have to be very evolved to pull that off.

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YES. And, honestly, even starting out -- God, it's been the most enlightening thing I've ever done. The way in which my husband and I have grown so much closer together is incredible. The fact that there is more genuine love, friendship, and familial bonding -- it's incredible.

Back in December, my husband said the most beautiful thing. 'I have the opportunity to create more love. Why wouldn't I do that?'

I think I cried.

posted July 17, 2014 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
I don't understand what you are saying but open relationships are not about putting each other down; its about loving freely without expectations, jealousy or possessiveness and that is hard. I think we are too individualistic and have too much of a sense of ownership and survival instincts in addition to a huge fear of loss for the human species to pull this off successfully at this point in time.

We are all one but down here we are individuals who are trying to survive so the idea of sharing one another makes us scream inside but I feel that is more biology taking over than spirit. I personally don't share my husband nor do I think I could share my ex but intellectually I can see a different way.

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One of the biggest things I tackle in my practise, Amelia, is the difference between the reality and the fantasy. Couples -- either together, or one but not the other, come to me all of the time, hot and bothered with the fantasy of something so taboo. But I'm not in the business of fantasy; I deal in reality.

Some of these couples go on to find it's the best thing they ever did. Many can't hack it -- and shouldn't try. I advise them to keep it at the fantasy level, which they both enjoy. Some try it again (usually 55+ age range) and find success the second time around.

EVERY one of the successful couples have a VERY strong marital foundation. They're not unhappy and seeking a '1950s divorce' as my husband once quoted. They love, respect, and appreciate their partner, and, for whatever their individual reasons, don't find happiness in monogamy.

Pair bonding is a vast subject with many fascinating nuances. Monogamy isn't what it used to be, either. The level of sex-negativity in the overall culture has a huge impact upon whether or not nonmonogamy will be considered. It's directly proportionate in many cases to the religiousity of the culture as well. Western culture is in large part sex-negative due to the Puritanism on which it was built.

... I'm blathering. You get the point.

And for the curious -- astrology!