posted July 17, 2014 08:59 AM            

So for now just posting the images and going back to musing

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posted July 17, 2014 09:02 AM            

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posted July 17, 2014 09:38 AM            

1. pure Solar Return
a) planets on the angles, especially ASC and DESC
b) rulers of the angles, especially ASC and DESC
c) planets in the cardinal houses, especially 1st and 7th

d) planets in or ruling 5th and 8th house and their close aspects to others

e) planets on or ruling Vertex and nodal axis, too

f) planetary geometry, especially T-Square and Grand Cross (as we usually want to know what is going to HAPPEN, and these have event character).

2) Solar Return to natal

a) SR angles and planets conjunct natal planets (of course note into which SR AND natal houses they fall!)

b) if there are conjunctions from SR to natal , what natal aspect is being triggered?

for example I would not pay too much attention if SR ASC Was trine natal Mars, however if that SR ASC was also conjunct natal Sun, and that natal Sun is trine natal Mars, well NOW I listen!

3) special note of planets/ asteroids that are very closely conjunct ASC, DESC, IC, MC, Vertex, Antivertex, nodal axis, Sun and Moon

they probably will make themselves very noteable in the year to come.

Not sure what orb I am allowing for Solar Returns, when checking I always ended up with an orb of 3-5 degrees, anything more felt, I donīt know reaching to me (however even though in my Solar return I would not count the Mars-Pluto-square and definitely not the Moon-Pluto-opposition, what I WOULD count is the fact that Mars is on the Moon/Pluto-mp, actually very close in orb only 11 minutes - so THAT Mars? Jup I DO pay attention, also as you can see it is so tightly on my natal midheaven, it will make itself known, carrying with it a Moon/Pluto-tone.
You know what is MINDBLOWING?

On that pivotal day on 13th june, my progressed Solar Return had THIS:

pr SR DESC on 29.54 Gemini, RIGHT on the SR Moon, making it angular.
Plus pr SR Moon on 5.21 Cancer, opposing my natal Venus and apparently activating SR Mars as well.

Wow, tell me I am not the only one being impressed! lol

I like your suggestions for the comparision. Yes I would do it as well, and in my case always always look at Mercury and Venus. lol

posted July 17, 2014 09:39 AM            

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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:

Do you think his sun on my SR DSC exact is significant?
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posted July 17, 2014 10:32 AM            

So that day you met a partner/encounter triggering your Moon and the Moon connection leads to your Venus

posted July 17, 2014 10:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well, I just had a look and I would start with the individual Solar Returns.

1. pure Solar Return
a) planets on the angles, especially ASC and DESC
b) rulers of the angles, especially ASC and DESC
c) planets in the cardinal houses, especially 1st and 7th

d) planets in or ruling 5th and 8th house and their close aspects to others

e) planets on or ruling Vertex and nodal axis, too

f) planetary geometry, especially T-Square and Grand Cross (as we usually want to know what is going to HAPPEN, and these have event character).

2) Solar Return to natal

a) SR angles and planets conjunct natal planets (of course note into which SR AND natal houses they fall!)

b) if there are conjunctions from SR to natal , what natal aspect is being triggered?

for example I would not pay too much attention if SR ASC Was trine natal Mars, however if that SR ASC was also conjunct natal Sun, and that natal Sun is trine natal Mars, well NOW I listen!

3) special note of planets/ asteroids that are very closely conjunct ASC, DESC, IC, MC, Vertex, Antivertex, nodal axis, Sun and Moon

they probably will make themselves very noteable in the year to come.

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posted July 17, 2014 10:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
yes I think it is very significant.

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posted July 17, 2014 10:51 AM            

I will follow your checklist now.

posted July 17, 2014 11:08 AM            

So having said that....

I was having SR ASC EXACTLY on my natal Juno last year, and still not married, nope.

unless of course it needs to be SR Juno being brought to the natal angle, hmmm there is a thought!

posted July 17, 2014 11:17 AM            

(widely conj. SR Jupiter on 22 Leo, too)

and SR Vertex conjunct natal Juno exact

Should be at least interesting.

Also I will have another Venus-Pluto-thing. SR Venus conjunct SR Pluto with 3 degrees, with SR Pluto being exact squaring SR Uranus in SR 7th house. intriguing.

posted July 17, 2014 11:20 AM            

Merc, 9th ruler (and 12th) conjunct ASC and NN - possible change of residence

Uranus, 5th ruler, conjunct DSC - that's a nice one

And that Juno on MC lol

They are both connected to Jupiter and Pluto, making a Yod: Jupiter/POF (approaching 9th cusp),apex Pluto in the 3rd, so it's a 3rd to 9th Yod.

The other one involves Merc itself: Mercury/Karma (I think NN is touched here also), apex Moon, MC ruler, releasing in Saturn/Vesta. What could Saturn in the 2nd mean here?

b) rulers of the angles, especially ASC and DESC

Chart ruler Venus, also ruling the 8th, in the 11th, opp Neptune in the 5th, actually opposing Neptune/Chiron mdp - I think I like this aspect. Venus trine Pluto, and in mutual reception with the Merc on ASC.

DSC ruler Mars, peregrine...hahaha what could this mean? interesting aspect.

c) planets in the cardinal houses, especially 1st and 7th

Merc/NN in 1st, Uranus/vertex in 7th, Jupiter in 10th.

d) planets in or ruling 5th and 8th house and their close aspects to others

Why the 8th, Ceri?

e) planets on or ruling Vertex and nodal axis, too

Nodal axis very activated and Vertex and NN are both ruled by Venus, so it's a Venus chart.

f) planetary geometry, especially T-Square and Grand Cross (as we usually want to know what is going to HAPPEN, and these have event character).

great input!

Moon (MC ruler) opposes Saturn (IC ruler). The trigger is Jupiter in Leo 10th, ruling the 3rd house - the energy is directed towards the 4th house. Interesting reversed connection with the archetypal Moon/Saturn opposition.

The most notable cross is certainly between the angles, with Merc/NN, Uranus and Juno.

posted July 17, 2014 11:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Juno on DESC?
Would not be surprised.

So having said that....

I was having SR ASC EXACTLY on my natal Juno last year, and still not married, nope.

unless of course it needs to be SR Juno being brought to the natal angle, hmmm there is a thought!

LOL going through my soloar returns of the last years, the closes one was SR Juno conjunct natal ASC by 4 degrees in the year I met Mr Sag.

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No, check my chart and look up there Well, I'm not a marriage girl, but still, couldn't ignore it

posted July 17, 2014 11:27 AM            

Why not?

posted July 17, 2014 11:28 AM            

In 5th house you fall in love

in 6th house your love is tested by everyday life

in 7th house you decide to get married

in 8th house you live that marriage

posted July 17, 2014 11:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
seriously though, as for relationshps in a very simplistic way.

In 5th house you fall in love

in 6th house your love is tested by everyday life

in 7th house you decide to get married

in 8th house you live that marriage

(7th house is the wedding itself, 8th house is marriage, starting with the wedding night )

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Exactly! wow, you see these houses just like I do, when it comes to the evolution of a relationship. Is this your idea? I wonder how much we think the same

I was just curious why you said 8th.

Ahhh, Ceri, you're ignoring my MC

posted July 17, 2014 11:51 AM            

I suppose partly this thinking about houses comes from myself, partly it comes from Steven Forrest and similiar astrologers.

However what clearly comes from me is the thought that the 8th house is a WATER house, it is FIXED; and it is in the PARTNER quadrant, while the 7th house is AIR and CARDINAL.

It is like in the 7th house it seems like a really good and important idea to make this comitment, but the 8th house shows how deeply involved you can really get. Do you touch each other on that very soulful, very deep, even scary level, where you are so totally naked with each other?

posted July 17, 2014 12:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Do you touch each other on that very soulful, very deep, even scary level, where you are so totally naked with each other?

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Let's hope so

Looking at your SR, I have a feeling things will get more "cardinal" and more aligned next year. Is it so?

posted July 17, 2014 12:04 PM            

Cardinal is a good way to put it, and so much Cancer-stuff, but the spicy one with BML involved and my 8th house and Eros.

posted July 17, 2014 12:35 PM            

I want to point out that a Yod in the SR shows a significant event that year. The houses ruled by the Yod planets show us the nature of the event and the opp axis (from the apex) the most likely result (especially by house). It is also interesting to compare the Yod with the natal to see the connections there: how the Yod triggers the natal planets/houses and how it is ingrained in the natal structure.

For example, one of my SR Yods, with Moon as apex, sits right on my natal IC/MC axis, releasing on MC. There is also a Moon/Saturn opp in SR sitting right there, on the Yod/MC/IC interconnection.

So when the Moon event happens this year, it will have a major impact on my IC/MC axis.

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posted July 17, 2014 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

I want to point out that a Yod in the SR shows a significant event that year.

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