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Knowflake

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posted July 19, 2014 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have any observations?

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posted July 19, 2014 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our cMARS isn't a true singleton, but it's so much less aspected than the rest of it, it almost feels that way. Everything is either conjunct or in this giant stellium; then there's cMARS. Just hanging out in 3H, going, ' ... Yo.' It's sort of noticeably apart, 13° CAP, in a sea of SCO with some significant placements in SAG.

Two sextiles -- KARMA and DESTINN. And that's IT. I forget if it loosely conjoins the cSNODE or not. If so, it's REALLY loose; like 10° or so.

So, comparatively. But not technically.

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Knowflake

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posted July 19, 2014 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Singeton/=unaspected planet

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posted July 19, 2014 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, singletons can also be made differently. Only planet in an element/ modality, only planet in one hemisphere or quadrant etc.

But you are asking specifically about unaspected planets?
What orb are we talking about?


If we are talking about a 5 or 6 degree orb in composite, the only technically unaspected planet is Uranus, which is interestingly chartruler and conjunct MC.

It is connected through minor aspects to Moon (quintile) and Sun (semisquare, exact) though.

Oh I forgot it is sextile Venus by 3-4 degrees. lol
So I suppose not even that one is really unaspected.

(It also opposes Eros-Priapus-Dionysos on the IC).


so no, no real unaspected planets in composite, sorry.

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posted July 19, 2014 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, interesting, Indigo,
unlike in your composite, Mars is very prominent in ours. Being placed on the NN, and ruling SN, it HAS to be prominent I suppose, cause it seems like there is something we missed to do/ experience/ resolve the last time around, and we are being given a second chance for getting it right or at least better this time.
It also touches upon Amor, Cupido and Camelot which are placed precisely on the NN. In Libra. It seems pretty clear what it is we shall learn I suppose
And he is a pulling-factor in this probably with his natal Pluto on this Mars-NN-Amor-Cupido-Camelot-stellium, while I might keep back, maybe due to the memories of pain and suffering (my Chiron sits on the quite volatile Aries-SN in 3rd house).


Anyway that was not the question I suppose. lol


EDIT:
Interestingly enough Draco composite EROS is exactly on that composite Mars (23 Libra)

And Draco c Uranus on the c SN.

I suppose it will be rather,mmh, difficult to keep this strictly "only friends".

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Knowflake

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posted July 19, 2014 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nooo. I wasn't asking about unaspected planets. Can they be even called singletons? I'm most interested in modality and elemental singletons.

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posted July 19, 2014 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh okay, well I most of the time call them unaspected, but I think I read them referred to as singletons, too.


Only using the usual planets:

Uranus only planet in WATER

Jupiter only planet in the Northern hemisphere and 2nd quadrant (in 5th house)


Both are important in the composite though, Uranus as chartruler on the MC.

Jupiter is the one pretty much everything else responds to. It is in mutual reception with mercury in Sag in 11th house, but since it is Jupiter ruling all the Sag-planets I suppose he has the last word.


I have a few singletons in my natal chart:

Venus: only planet in EARTH
Saturn: only planet in Western hemisphere (3rd quadrant)

FRom these two I can say singletons are not to be underestimated, those planets seem to manifest very strongly in a crystallized, focused way.

Never mind all that happy going Sag-energy there, it is really my Cappy Venus and Cancer-Saturn that become quite prominent.

Well, Saturn is also head of one of my dispositor-trees (he shares the work with Moon), the one residing over emotions (in my chart I have two dispositor trees, and they are sort of split in terms of emotions and relationships, which falls under the supervision of Moon-Saturn, and everything else, mentally, individually and so on, which is supervised by Jupiter; at least Jupiter and Saturn are talking with each other through a trine and Saturn really likes Jupiter, as Jupiter is exalted in Cancer, so that is the good thing. lol But I might seem like two different people, depending on if I just want to be friends with someone or really fall in love. That is pure drama!)

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posted July 19, 2014 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think is most emphasised? The element/quality, the planet or the sign?

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posted July 19, 2014 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the combination

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LeeLoo2014
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posted July 19, 2014 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
the combination

This.


Which I think should include, being the composite, its ruling position. Also, you may have a let's say fire singleton in a composite, but if you have a Leo ASC there, or an asteroid stellium in Sag...I think there is no purity for the "only element in fire" idea.

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posted July 19, 2014 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You mean, only placement in fire As far as I know angles don't matter in the singleton business. And asteroids are all over the place so I wouldn't bother with them.

Btw, I have mutable angles and a mutable singleton and I'm probably less mutable than I theoretically should be. It's my chart ruler so the planet would be prominent even without being a singleton. If we ignore this part, the sign's qualities seems to be most emphasised in this case.
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LeeLoo2014
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posted July 19, 2014 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yet, the whole idea behind "singletons" is that they are the ONLY energy in that element/modality etc., me thinks. A pure singleton is a planet symbolizing a single energy. If your ASC/DSC is mutable and you have one mutable planet, you can't say mutable energy is expressed only through that planet. So it's not a pure singleton.


Explain that sign emphasis stuff in your case, it sounds very interesting.

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posted July 19, 2014 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to think that, too, Leeloo, but I am not so sure anymore.
I am not so sure about the angles anymore in general, I mean we treat them almost like planets, but they are no planets.

Not sure what that means in terms of singletons though, so I better shut up

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posted July 19, 2014 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol yeah, I'm not sure either, it's just a thought

so share yours as well hehehe

However, I'm thinking having a Virgo ASC brings a lot of mutability in a chart, perhaps stronger than a planet. Of course, I could be wrong.


I was thinking I have the Moon as a fixed singleton. But how much the Moon weighs? Apparently a lot. It's not the same as having Saturn as a fixed singleton, for instance. It's a personal planet and it's the Moon and I'm also a woman. I also have a packed 8th house and MC/IC in Scorpio/Taurus. So in this case, can I even say fixed energy has a "singleton" vibe in my chart? I think it's different when you have a pure singleton and perhaps they are quite rare.

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posted July 19, 2014 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, planets are certainly different and in terms of weight the Moon is very far up there.

However I can`t say I feel my Saturn-singleton less strongly than my Venus-one. They are pretty equal, maybe my Saturn is even a tad stronger. But then again it rules Venus, so there`s that.


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