posted December 03, 2011 05:02 PM            

I ll explain further after your input !!

His Sun square my Sun 4d.
His Sun conjunct my ASC 9d. (WIDE)
His Sun quintile my Venus 1d.
His Sun semi-square my Mars 1d.
His Sun trine my Saturn, Uranus, Neptune (4,3,4 degrees of orb respectively)
His Sun sextile my Pluto 5d.
His Sun conjunct my Juno 4d.
His Sun trine my Vesta 1d.
His Sun sextile my Chiron 1d.

His Moon conjunct my Mars (don't know Time of Birth, max. orb 6 degrees)
His Moon sextile my Moon, Mercury (don't know orb, possibly 1-3 degrees)
His Moon bi-quintile my NN 0d.
His Moon sextile my Ceres 1d.
His Moon trine my Dejanira 1d.
His Moon sextile my MC 0d.

His Mercury square my Sun 9d.
His Mercury conjunct my ASC 4d.
His Mercury square my Mercury 4d. (by degree, but are both in combatible Earth Signs)
His Mercury sextile my Venus 5d.
His Mercury trine my Uranus 1d.
His Mercury quintile my Pluto 1d.
His Mercury opposite my NN 2d.
His Mercury conjunct my Eros 1d.
His Mercury conjunct my Juno 0d.

His Venus quincunx my Moon 1d.
His Venus bi-quintile my Mercury 1d.
His Venus trine my Venus 3d.
His Venus trine my Jupiter 6d (wide)
His Venus quintile my Uranus 1d
His Venus sextile my Valentine 0d.
His Venus square my *His Name asteroid* 0d.

His Mars trine my Moon 8d. (wide)
His Mars sesqui-squadrate my Mercury 0d.
His Mars opposite my Mars 7d.
His Mars conjunct my Saturn 1d.
His Mars conjunct my Uranus 9d.
His Mars conjunct my Neptune 2d.
His Mars sextile my Pluto 0d.
His Mars semi-square my NN 0d.
His Mars square my Lilith 1d.
His Mars conjunct my Vesta 4d.
His Mars sesqui-squadrate my ASC 0d.

His Jupiter square my Sun 7d.
His Jupiter sextile my Moon 2d.
His Jupiter square my Venus 7d.
His Jupiter trine my Mars 1d.
His Jupiter square my Jupiter 2d.
His Jupiter trine my Pluto 6d.
His Jupiter opposite my Nessus 0d.

His Saturn opposite my Sun, Mercury by 8d. and 5d.
His Saturn square my ASC 5d.
His Saturn square my NN 3d.
His Saturn conjunct my Karma 1d.
His Saturn square my Eros 2d.
His Saturn square my Juno 0d.

His Uranus opposite my Sun, Venus, Jupiter (6d., 8d, 1d. respectively)
His Uranus quintile my NN 0d.
His Uranus square my Nessus 1d.
His Uranus sextile my Psycje 1d.

His Neptune bi-quintile my Mercury 1d.
His Neptune opposite my Venus 5d.
His Neptune trine my Juno 0d.
His Neptune trine my Eros 1d.
His Neptune trine my ASC 4d.

His Pluto bi-quintile my Sun 0d.
His Pluto quindecile my Moon 2d.
His Pluto trine my Venus 8d (wide)
His Pluto sextile my Juno 2d.
His Pluto trine my Chiron 0d.
His Pluto semi-square my Nessus 0d.
His Pluto quintile my Valentine 0d.

His Juno square my NN 4d.
His Juno square my Eros 2d.
His Juno quintile my Psyche 1d.

His Eros quindecile my Mars 1.15d.

His Valentine trine my Sun 2d.
His Valentine quintile my Karma 0d.
His Valentine square my Saturn 3d.
His Valentine square my Pluto 0d.

His Karma square my Saturn 4d.

His Aphrodite square my ASC 2d.
His Aphrodite quindecile my Sun 0.48 d.
His Aphrodite square my Valentine 2d.

His Nessus conjunct my ASC 1d.
His Nessus sextile my Venus 2d.
His Nessus opposite my NN 0d.

His Sappho trine my Eros 1d.

His Pan conjunct my Venus 2d.
His Pan trine my NN 0d.
His Pan sextile my ASC 1d.

His Desiderata sextile my Venus 1d.
His Desiderata conjunct my Valentine 2d.
His Desiderata trine my Amor 0d.
His Desiderata conjunct my ASC 2d.

His * my Name asteroid* conjunct my Venus 2d.
His * my Name asteroid* trine my NN 0d.
His * my Name asteroid* sextile my ASC 0d.
His Valentine quindecile *my Name asteroid*1.20d.
His *His Name asteroid* conjunct my Venus 3d.

His NN square my *His Name asteroid* 0d.

Double Whammies:
His Venus square my Mars 2d.
His Mars quindecile my Venus 1.45d.
(DW)
His NN trine my Valentine 0d.
His Valentine quindecile my NN 1d.
(DW)
His Sun conjunct my Apollo 0d.
His Apollo sextile my Sun 0d.
(DW)
His Psyche quindecile my NN 2d.

posted December 05, 2011 02:10 AM            

The planetary aspects are not impressive, the orbs are too wide in the positives.

I will comment on the Red Flags first:

1. His Mars conjunct my Saturn 1d.
This is a repressive and frustrating aspect. One of the worst conjunctions in Astrology, limitless potential to drain away happiness.

2.
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His Saturn square my Eros 2d.
His Saturn square my Juno 0d.
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These indicate betrayal of a Soulmate in the immediate past lifeline.

3.
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His Valentine square my Saturn 3d.
His Valentine square my Pluto 0d.
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The above is further evidence of Point 2.

4.
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His Nessus conjunct my ASC 1d.
His Nessus sextile my Venus 2d.
His Nessus opposite my NN 0d.
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The guy can be sexually obsessed with you.
He may have sexually abused you in one or more past lifelines.
I do not like this one bit, especially with Mars-Venus dw square.
Even if there is a pleasant relationship now, it can deteriorate rapidly into a sexually abusive relationship if any stress crops up.

The Positives:
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Mercury conjunction to Eros, Psyche
Valentine Trine NN
Apollo-Sun double whammy, a source of healing.

The Red Flags are dominant. Only a very evolved couple can take this relationship forward. You are very young and if the guy is not into Buddhism or some serious Yoga, just stay friends. Long distance friends

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posted December 09, 2011 04:22 AM            

Could it be that my 'Nessus relationships' are built in this foundation? That i recognise 'motherly love' in them - no matter if they act possessive, jealous and controlling of me? I experience it as a sort of morbid fascination going both ways - me and them. Yet for me this is the experience of LOVE as it reminds me of all my childhood.

Seeing how much I write about it, you understand why I cant seem to stay away from those relationships (even if they are not romantic but, for example, 'mentor-student' etc).

No Venus-Mars conjunctions, Pluto linkages etc do it for me in the absence of Nessus. I lose interest pretty soon. But the 'Nessus relationships' shake me to the core, and reach deeply to my psyche.

I even - I will say that - do not shy away from the 'sexual violence' part (although i dont think this will happen) as my longing is just too great to sidestep because of such a rare potential.

posted December 12, 2011 02:17 PM            

FORGOT to add.
We have a Nessus-Lust square DW. 1 degree my Lust to his Nessus, 3 degrees his Lust to my Nessus. AND my Nessus conjunct his Eros by 1 degree. Btw, his Nessus is EXACTLY on my ASC not 1d.

posted December 20, 2011 01:56 AM            

Does this indicate betrayal in the immediate past life as well? If so who did the betraying? if not what does it mean when is a conjunct?

I have been trying to figure out what is the root of the karma I have with him and perhaps this Eros conjunct Saturn is the key.

posted December 20, 2011 06:07 AM            

The Nessus-Lust dw when positive means intense enjoyment of very rough sex, either in the future or have already indulged so in the past lifelines.

Hi Amelia,
Eros conjunct Saturn need not be betrayal, it is the squares that indicate betrayal.

The conjunction is evidence of a Karmic Soulmate: A Soulmate with whom you have developed so much karmic debt that you have to marry or live together for a few years to pay off the debts. Once the debts are paid, either he will transform into an even more loving person [and enhance the beauty of the relationship] or he will suddenly separate, allowing a better Soulmate into your life.

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posted December 20, 2011 03:18 PM            

To name them,

QUINDECILES :
His Eros quindeciles my Mars
His Pluto quindecile my Moon
His Psyche quindecile my NN
His Mars quindecile my Venus (my Mars squares his Venus as well)
His Aphrodite quindecile my Sun
His Valentine quindecile my NN (also, my Valentine trines his NN)

PARALLELS:
His Nessus parallel my Venus (again the Nessus theme - there is also a Nessus-Venus sextile as noted above and of course the Nessus-ASC)

C-PARALLELS:
His Nessus c-p my Moon
His Nessus c-p my Aphrodite
His Nessus c-p my Valentine
His Uranus c-p my Moon
His Valentine c-p my Moon
His Aphrodite c-p my Moon
His Venus c-p my NN
His Venus c-p my Juno
His Sun c-p my Lilith
His NN c-p my Lilith

What is your take/feel at these? I am learning on quindeciles and parallels/c-parallels and you POV is the most appreciated

posted July 21, 2014 04:56 PM            

When Saturn is in aspect to Eros, the opportunity to transform lead to gold may come though the medium of erotic love. This can mix one of the most agonizing experiences with the most exquisite making pain hard to distinguish from the pleasure. When Saturn and Eros meet we come to know the depths of our flaw, usually appearing before the eyes, in full Technicolor, in the form of the beloved other.

Eros conjunct Saturn can suggest difficulty discerning between an experience of erotic attraction and an experience of abject fear. As Eros awakens, so does Saturn and the initial response can range from wise caution to absolute panic. The alarming thing is that Saturn seems to increase, not destroy, our sense of allure to the other. A kind of fascination develops that spirals around a catch 22 that says the closer we get, the more we fear, the stronger the compulsion for closeness. The magnet attunes to captivate someone with a similar flaw and commensurate fears. This alone can produce tremendous pain, and also tremendous growth and understanding.

posted July 21, 2014 11:15 PM            

My Saturn is conj. his Mars 0° applying in his 8th house, and trines his Pluto 0°. His Pluto is on my IC 1°, so it's linking a lot of deeply transformative energy.

Saturn is my 7th ruler and Mars is his 7th ruler.

The things I've read about the Saturn-Mars in 8th have been all over the map. Everything from no sex at all to compulsive sex to bondage. Some said it means no sexual attraction, but I know that's not the case because I've had this aspect where I've been the Mars and they were Saturn and I couldn't get enough of them. It wasn't in the 8th house, though, so I'm not sure what the difference is.

Do you think it could be anything like the Beauty and the Beast feeling that Eros-Saturn conveys?

posted July 23, 2014 06:09 AM            

You know, tgem has really been in the foxhole with MARS-SATURN. I believe it's exactly conjunct. iQ stated, if I recall, that a sexual relationship would incur greater karmic debt rather than release or balance it. I'm not sure why, but I recall it off of the Twin Flame Astrology thread I used to 'run' earlier this year.

SATURN-EROS is different at its core, since EROS embodies a soulful sexuality rather than a raw, animalistic Martian lust.

I know that he doesn't like MARS conjunct SATURN in synastry; he's described it as a 'limitless drain', or some such. You might want to enquire as to why with him.

SATURN, as usual, is a representation of accrued karma. This may be why, with EROS, it shows an accumulation of so much that it must run its course.

I have an exact quincunx with my Guardian. No clue what that means, but it's the SATURN that's overlaying my 8H. If it's resultant karma, then I'm pretty sure what yielded it. Scorpio and Aries. Not on the Homicidal Axis, thankfully, but his 4H SATURN in my 8H, quincunx my EROS-DESTINN/LEWISCARROLL.

Anytime you want to really understand an aspect's dynamics, dig in to everything: the rulers, which are the nearest applying other aspects, look at dwads, and check for declination involvement.

posted July 23, 2014 06:19 AM            

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posted July 23, 2014 07:32 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
However, in Wild Horses's synastry, if I remember correctly, Saturn is her DSC ruler and Mars is the man's DSC ruler. Them being conjunct and exact is an ideal contact for a partnership between them. It's perhaps the strongest contact in their synastry. That's why, personally, I'm against generalizing aspects as "good" or "bad".

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I agree with that.

My parents have the DW of Mars-Saturn-conjunction; in their case however

Mars rules my Dad`s 8th and my Mum?s 11thhouse
Saturn rules his 5th house and her 7th and 8th house.

However, I think it is of importance probably that their Mars-Saturn-conjunctions are pretty much unafflicted and in fact, his Mars and her Saturn are widely trine his Venus in 5th house.
And her Mars and his saturn are conjunct her Venus in her 4th house

posted July 23, 2014 08:27 AM            

Sexually, I think it's the primary reason that after 23 years of marriage, our sex life is unreal. To me, his Saturn on my Mars has been marathon long sex with multiple orgasms galore. Even though there are some other problems in our marriage, the sex is definitely not one of them. I only mention that so others with Saturn-Mars don't freak out and think they're gonna have a sexless relationship. Far from it. If anything, what it can mean is that even when the rest of your relationship is running on fumes, the sex between you will still be running on nitrous. Even if we do not stay married and I begin a relationship with this other man in the future, we will always be close, and neither of us would ever think our Saturn-Mars had been a problem. .

The way it's played out is more like this- his Saturn is in his 10th house. He is very responsible professionally. Sometimes, I've tried to talk him into staying home from work for the day so that I can spend all day in bed with him enjoying each other. His Saturn commitment to work will block my Mars sexual desire. This will disappoint me, but I understand the reason for it. Sometimes my Mars wins, though, and we're both usually happy when it does.

The conjunction I have that's my Saturn on the other man's Mars is 0°applying. They are 0°33' apart.
His POF, Valentine, and BML are all in the same degree, all conjunct his Mars. Like LeeLoo mentioned, the Saturn and Mars are each of our DC rulers. They are parallel 0°, also.

The Saturn-Mars is not our closest aspect, though. Closer aspects we have are his Jupiter conj. my Sun-Venus conjunction. That one is less than 0°30. So is his Pluto trine my Saturn, and several others. The very tightest aspect we have is his Adonis conjunct my Moon.

posted July 23, 2014 01:54 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
However, in Wild Horses's synastry, if I remember correctly, Saturn is her DSC ruler and Mars is the man's DSC ruler. Them being conjunct and exact is an ideal contact for a partnership between them. It's perhaps the strongest contact in their synastry. That's why, personally, I'm against generalizing aspects as "good" or "bad".

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posted July 23, 2014 02:25 PM            

I did a cursory check-through, and did not find MARS-SATURN to be active in very sexual marriages, however; I don't think that's it. Unless there's an active 5H involvement, it seems unlikely. Rather, it was mostly associated with dysfunction and troubled sexual relationships -- the MARS feeling, indeed, stifled by the SATURN. In most cases, sex was reserved for procreation, and that was it.

Do you and your husband have strong NYMPHE? There's an asteroid that won't quit. I haven't looked at it yet in William Masters and Virginia Johnson, but I suspect it's active!

I never outright declare an aspect good or bad -- it takes careful analysis. I DO agree that the DSC-R involvement is a strong tie. The fact they're MARS-SATURN may still play a role, however.

posted July 23, 2014 03:11 PM            

I checked out Nymphe. I didn't realize Nymphe was that strong. I've never paid much attention to it. It is strong in the synastry between my husband and me.
-my Nymphe is conj. his MC/Midheaven 0°
-his Nymphe is conj. My Vertex in 5th 0°
They both make lots of aspects in our synastry.

Same thing goes for the synastry between T and me.
-my Nymphe conj. his Venus-Mars midpoint 0°
-his Nymphe conj. My Ceres 0°
They both make lots of aspects in our synastry.

For T and me, In our Composite AND Davison, Nymphe conj. Sun.

What does the asteroid Nymphe mean, other than what it's name means, or is that it?

posted July 23, 2014 03:15 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Mars/Saturn square is a common marriage aspect though

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