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next to neptune
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posted July 22, 2014 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In these modern times, people divorce, like they could just walk out and find a new husband tomorrow - many actually does that. But for around 40 years ago no one divorced. But they probably wasn't happy married either… they just married because they had to. At least 9 out of 10 did that.

And today the most people don't really believe in staying together with just ONE person for the REST of their lives. It sounds as such a long time…

And is it possible at all? No matter how great a synastry you got, do you believe in the one and only, the one you can actually spend your life with forever? Do you believe that it's possible at all, to have such a nice synastry AND never get tired of each other/wanting to try something new?

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posted July 22, 2014 05:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I know the one and only exists. And not only does it last a lifetime, but it lasts for eternity.

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posted July 22, 2014 05:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Used to but now i'm not so sure. I want to believe though

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NeptunianSag
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posted July 22, 2014 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I beleive that there is, but I don't know where to find him.

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IV XXIV
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posted July 22, 2014 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV XXIV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe that it is possible to stay with one person for the rest of your life, and to be completely happy with that decision.

I personally don't live my life in pursuit of "that one" - if i find someone that intrigues me, I'll go forward. I'm not thinking about marriage and children, I'm just going with the flow of things. I don't believe, in my own case, that there is one person meant for every other one person.

I guess it just comes down to who you are as a person. While I may believe that there's one specific person out there for you, or my best friend, or whomever, I don't believe there's one specific person out there for me. Get me?

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posted July 22, 2014 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am on the fence on this. I had too many relationships & one marriage were the partner had the attitude of "what can you do for me?" & when I fell off the pedestal (Venus conjunct Neptune natal) I was the one to sustain the most damage. I am a bit cynical. After all, a cynic is just a disillusioned romantic (You'll Never Eat Lunch in this Town Again- Julia Phillips). However, after over 4 years with the same man who continually demonstrates that he wants the best for me almost makes me want to change my tune.

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posted July 23, 2014 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope. Unconditional love was not meant for one person for the rest of our lives. Some of us have many soulmates, and need the opportunity to clear that karma and resolve those relationships.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted July 23, 2014 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Yes I know the one and only exists. And not only does it last a lifetime, but it lasts for eternity.

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posted July 24, 2014 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IV XXIV:
I believe that it is possible to stay with one person for the rest of your life, and to be completely happy with that decision.

I personally don't live my life in pursuit of "that one" - if i find someone that intrigues me, I'll go forward. I'm not thinking about marriage and children, I'm just going with the flow of things. I don't believe, in my own case, that there is one person meant for every other one person.

I guess it just comes down to who you are as a person. While I may believe that there's one specific person out there for you, or my best friend, or whomever, I don't believe there's one specific person out there for me. Get me?


I also more like meant if you think it's possible to live forever with the same person, not necessarily the "one and only". But that was what I wrote anyways…. but do you think you can live with someone for the rest of your life, without the need to find someone else, because the one you found just fit so perfect to you?

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posted July 24, 2014 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think so. Personally, I think we grow and change so much (or at least we should, if we're constantly evolving) that we often need different sorts of partners for each leg of the journey.

We become very fortunate if we're able to limit that to one, two, or even three. If one, that's truly exceptional. Life partners are a rare gift -- and it takes a LOT of work.

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posted July 24, 2014 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I don't think so. Personally, I think we grow and change so much (or at least we should, if we're constantly evolving) that we often need different sorts of partners for each leg of the journey.

We become very fortunate if we're able to limit that to one, two, or even three. If one, that's truly exceptional. Life partners are a rare gift -- and it takes a LOT of work.


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posted July 24, 2014 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I don't think so. Personally, I think we grow and change so much (or at least we should, if we're constantly evolving) that we often need different sorts of partners for each leg of the journey.


I fully agree with this To me, however, they are all different versions/partials of the same person, like holograms, as I said. But indeed, as we evolve and we become better versions of ourselves, we also meet better versions of "him/her".

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posted July 24, 2014 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I don't think so. Personally, I think we grow and change so much (or at least we should, if we're constantly evolving) that we often need different sorts of partners for each leg of the journey.

We become very fortunate if we're able to limit that to one, two, or even three. If one, that's truly exceptional. Life partners are a rare gift -- and it takes a LOT of work.


If you found a great match, you would be able to evolve in the same direction though? And give the other freedom to grow in the direction they want… but I agree it should take a special union for them to grow just a little bit in the same direction, so it won't be enough to split the couple from each other just because of a little personal growth...

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posted July 24, 2014 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a hopeless romantic. So I do believe in that. I don't care much about marriage, divorce and other formal stuff, though. It's all about emotions for me. --> Uranus on Dsc opp Moon.

I think people nowadays also place a lesser importance on love itself. You can hear it when people are discussing those things: they talk about dating, relationships, etc, the words love or passion are almost non-existent. It's "this guy who was my bf" instead of "this guy I was in love with" or "trying to date" instead of "falling in love".

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posted July 24, 2014 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly, no.

I think potential in charts is one thing, real manifestation is another

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KarmicMoon
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posted July 24, 2014 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How many times have you believed you were with the "one and only" only to have someone else come along and then they seem like the "one and only"? Or your partner leaves you and then you find someone you are even happier with? I think there are many people we have the opportunity to lead happy lives with. Maybe we just put too much pressure on one person sweeping us off our feet and making us happy forever. If that is your outlook it's bound to fail because no one can be responsible for your happiness but you.

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IV XXIV
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posted July 25, 2014 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV XXIV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I also more like meant if you think it's possible to live forever with the same person, not necessarily the "one and only". But that was what I wrote anyways…. but do you think you can live with someone for the rest of your life, without the need to find someone else, because the one you found just fit so perfect to you?

I don't believe I could happily and willingly live the rest of my life with one person without the need or want to find someone new. When things get boring, and I'm sure they will eventually, and I've run out of major things to learn about you/the initial adrenaline has run its course.. I will want to move on to someone new and experience them.

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posted July 25, 2014 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IV XXIV:
I don't believe I could happily and willingly live the rest of my life with one person without the need or want to find someone new. When things get boring, and I'm sure they will eventually, and I've run out of major things to learn about you/the initial adrenaline has run its course.. I will want to move on to someone new and experience them.

Maybe it's something in your natal chart that makes you want this?

I can see what you mean, but I myself love to stick to one person and evolve together with them(for a long long time, maybe not the rest of my life), I just think that all that effort I put into knowing one person from the inside and out should never get thrown away, it is very useful and it is the best feeling when you know someone that well and know that they are there for you…
I don't get that people form many friendships that lasts for a lifetime, but not with a partner… I see a partnership as a friendship too, and whether or not we are able to have the physical love forever, I would still want to keep the friendship and not throw it away…. (but its easier said than done)

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posted July 25, 2014 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IV XXIV:
I don't believe I could happily and willingly live the rest of my life with one person without the need or want to find someone new. When things get boring, and I'm sure they will eventually, and I've run out of major things to learn about you/the initial adrenaline has run its course.. I will want to move on to someone new and experience them.

People evolve, you know, and they get much more interesting and exciting with age...much more interesting than any "fresh meat"...it can happen hahahaha


I think this approach allows you to see only the surface of people and yourself.

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posted July 28, 2014 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, so this is my personal view on this issue.

If it was possible to stay married to one person for life in times gone by, then it's possible now. I'm not talking about soulmates, twin flames, or any of that. I'm talking about commitment, patience, maturity, a willingness to work on the relationship, having compassion and consideration for the other person, and not depending on them to 'fill you up' completely.

I think western culture these days encourages a desire for instant gratification, and the notion that a relationship is just for our entertainment. And once the euphoria stops it's time to quit... All relationships eventually calm down on an emotional level and that's a scientific fact (it has to do with brain chemistry). Yes, you can still love them, like them, adore them, and really get along with them, but the 'new romance' feeling is not going to last forever. Or at least there'll be peaks and valleys regarding this.

Apart from excitement, there's a deeper kind of bond that comes when two people are committed to each other for life, are good and kind to each other, and can trust one another's loyalty. If our heart is no longer afraid we can open up and surrender more. It's a kind of peace.

In an ideal world, once we commit it should be for life. I know that once I commit I want it to be for life. Once I make a choice I'm gonna stick with it hard core. That's that. Ha ha, I'm a Capricorn.

I've heard the term 'love addict' before and in today's society I think this is an actual thing. A love addict is someone who is addicted to the 'high' they get from new romance, and who has trouble maintaining a lasting relationship. This is because they are always craving the next 'high'. They get off on the drama, excitement, and intrigue, of a new or unavailable love interest. They are capable of going over the top about someone, and raving about them like they're their soulmate, but then balking against the relationship if things become too normal. A long lasting, stable relationship... Where's the drama and excitement in that?

Honestly, I think it's natural for most people to feel addicted when they fall in love to some extent. But I also think it's not realistic to expect that phase of the relationship to last forever. I also think some aspects of today's society do encourage 'love addict' type behavior, if we are to believe what we see in the media. Our society moves at a faster pace these days and people are less patient in the area of romance.

However, if we do decide that we want to have a long lasting love relationship, we do need to cultivate the right attitude. We need more patience, more compassion, and more acceptance, more respect, and a fierce, no-nonsense attitude towards loyalty, when it comes to our partner. It's a good idea to set boundaries in the relationship as well.

For example, if we are already committed, spending large amounts of time around someone else, or maintaining a communication online with someone else, when we're a little (or a lot) attracted to them is a dumb idea period. If we unnecessarily encourage temptation it will cause the disintegration of any committed relationship we have. If we want to have a relationship of value that actually lasts we may need to learn how to extricate ourselves from the path of unnecessary temptation. Otherwise, if we are loose physically or emotionally there will be difficulty keeping a focus on our one chosen partner. And this is the beginning of the end...

There's always something else new or exciting around the corner for those who are not truly loyal in their mind and heart. They wind up endlessly jumping from one relationship to another, never content, until they can learn true loyalty (if ever). These people can't be depended upon and may bail at the slightest hint of imperfection, in their partner, or the relationship itself. Who wants to be with someone like that? How could you ever feel safe and trust your partner under such circumstances? The bottom line is: We can not keep our options open if we want to have long lasting love in our lives. Make a choice and stick with it.

Ups and downs will come and go. But our loyalty to our partner must remain consistent.

I think another key part to committing for life is choosing wisely. We need to pick someone who we really feel is right for us, and to also not pick an immature or troubled partner. They need to be ready for commitment. For instance, trying to save someone hopelessly irresponsible, or to tame a 'bad boy', when they are not willing change will lead to disappointment nine times out of ten. This part is really common sense.

So my answer is 'Yes!' we can have a one and only. But if we want that we need to fully embrace what it means to dedicate ourselves to a commitment.

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posted July 29, 2014 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 29, 2014 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great posts, Lotis and Vajra!

I'd like to add the addiction for the first stage of romantic relationships instead of using the energy to bring romance and excitement into your long-term relationship is a form of consumerism. After five ten twenty "fixes" you realize it's the same thing and it's not about that person, it's a superficial level that prevents you from actually knowing people. They are objectified and consummated and you never get to love or be loved, which starts after the first-stage euphoria.

So don't be someone who visits over and over again the gatekeeper's little house at the gate of an immense palace with secret gardens. Go visit the palace.

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posted July 29, 2014 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 29, 2014 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Great posts, Lotis and Vajra!

I'd like to add the addiction for the first stage of romantic relationships instead of using the energy to bring romance and excitement into your long-term relationship is a form of consumerism. After five ten twenty "fixes" you realize it's the same thing and it's not about that person, it's a superficial level that prevents you from actually knowing people. They are objectified and consummated and you never get to love or be loved, which starts after the first-stage euphoria.

So don't be someone who visits over and over again the gatekeeper's little house at the gate of an immense palace with secret gardens. Go visit the palace.


Great insight Leeloo!

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posted July 29, 2014 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do believe that you can love one person for the rest of your life. This kind of love has and will always exist.

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