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HappyLoewe
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posted July 27, 2014 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HappyLoewe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These two women hate each other and I mean quite literally ! I work with these two women and you can feel the atmos change whenever they are around each other. They can't speak without harshness in tone and sometimes words and they interrupt each other alot. The older woman is the red. Any clues as to why this literal hate exists between the two of them? Thanks HL

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posted July 27, 2014 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars on Mc, Chiron Asc and Uranus on Libra Desc.

They feel critized, limited and unstable in each other presence.

Get out of their way

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posted July 27, 2014 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HappyLoewe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Mars on Mc, Chiron Asc and Uranus on Libra Desc.

They feel critized, limited and unstable in each other presence.

Get out of their way


Thanks. Yes, this must be it because it's hard to be around them whenever they are near each other. It's very weird to watch it play out as I get the impression that would love to knock each other out. It can be unnerving sometimes because you don't always know what's coming next. They are fine around other people though. Both nice people but just not to each other !

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posted July 27, 2014 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apart from the chiron on asc, the blue woman has sun conj. jupiter -> a sunny disposition which is hit hard by the red woman's saturn.

The blue woman will def. never be able to like the red lady

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posted July 27, 2014 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HappyLoewe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Apart from the chiron on asc, the blue woman has sun conj. jupiter -> a sunny disposition which is hit hard by the red woman's saturn.

The blue woman will def. never be able to like the red lady


No hope for these two then? I feel jealousy plays out a little bit in this scenario but I'm not sure why. I don't think they will ever be able to get on or agree about anything. I suppose you can't like everyone !

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posted July 27, 2014 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's always hope

I can't stand people who hit my moon but that's just my initial reaction.

Jealousy? They are the same age, aren't they?

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posted July 27, 2014 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HappyLoewe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
There's always hope

I can't stand people who hit my moon but that's just my initial reaction.

Jealousy? They are the same age, aren't they?


Yes, I suppose. No ! The red woman is 20 years older than the blue woman and this is what fascinates me/repels me at the same time. I can't quite figure out why they are jealous of each other. I think it's just a personality thing. The blue woman is younger and prettier and is considered fairly popular but she is selfish and fairly full of herself. In truth, she can be a bit OTT and it does get a bit annoying after a while. The red woman is attractive and stable in her life and appears to be very settled. I think it must come down to a personality clash.

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posted July 27, 2014 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ah, i see the age difference.

The red lady has a very wide venu/pluto conj and the blue one aspects this negatively with a square from her moon. This and other aspects could indicate jealousy

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posted July 27, 2014 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With the red lady having her Saturn in the 1st house and the blue lady having her Sun-Jupiter in 1st conj. AC, the blue lady probably thinks the red lady is too serious and maybe too controlling. Especially with red's 1st house Saturn falling in blue's first house. Blue probably tenses up the second red walks in the room. With Red's Saturn on blue's NN, though, blue can probably learn a lot from red, though.

I think they'll never get along. Blue's Mars is opp. Red's Mercury, and blue's Venus squares it. They don't like anything the other says or the way they say it. They probably talk "at" each other rather than "to" each other.

With blue's Mars square Venus T-squaring red's Mercury, I think blue's sexuality is very much on red's mind in a negative way. So, red probably is jealous of blue. Since blue's AC and 1st house Sun-Jupiter land near red's 1st house Saturn, red probably feels instantly older and less attractive in blue's presence. With blue having Sun-Jupiter on her A.C. she probably has a youthfulness about her that stands out immediately. This might make red's 1st house Saturn feel old and decrepit around blue.

Also, the Sun textile Jupiter of red form a yod with blue's Sun-Jupiter conj., so each probably feels the other is just "too much" of something or too over the top in some way.
They've also got Sun quincunx Sun
Venus quincunx Venus
A Mars-Pluto square

... These two really don't like each other and probably never will.

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posted July 27, 2014 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HappyLoewe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
With the red lady having her Saturn in the 1st house and the blue lady having her Sun-Jupiter in 1st conj. AC, the blue lady probably thinks the red lady is too serious and maybe too controlling. Especially with red's 1st house Saturn falling in blue's first house. Blue probably tenses up the second red walks in the room. With Red's Saturn on blue's NN, though, blue can probably learn a lot from red, though.

I think they'll never get along. Blue's Mars is opp. Red's Mercury, and blue's Venus squares it. They don't like anything the other says or the way they say it. They probably talk "at" each other rather than "to" each other.

With blue's Mars square Venus T-squaring red's Mercury, I think blue's sexuality is very much on red's mind in a negative way. So, red probably is jealous of blue. Since blue's AC and 1st house Sun-Jupiter land near red's 1st house Saturn, red probably feels instantly older and less attractive in blue's presence. With blue having Sun-Jupiter on her A.C. she probably has a youthfulness about her that stands out immediately. This might make red's 1st house Saturn feel old and decrepit around blue.

Also, the Sun textile Jupiter of red form a yod with blue's Sun-Jupiter conj., so each probably feels the other is just "too much" of something or too over the top in some way.
They've also got Sun quincunx Sun
Venus quincunx Venus
A Mars-Pluto square

... These two really don't like each other and probably never will.


Saturn in the first house?! - I have a relative with this placement who is a complete loner who doesn't really gel with anyone but can put on a great show when they need to. This is strange how this placement keeps coming up lately ! Starting to freak me out !! I am really beginning to dislike Saturn in the first house.

Talking to each other is a no-go. You are right,they talk "at" each other. The dislike is palpable. It's strange because red is a classy lady who is really attractive and blue is pretty and aware of what is current and happening but she constantly daydreams about what she wants. The difference in age, lifestyles and approach is apparent. They defo bring out the worst in each other with words and bad looks to each other. But it's never funny, it's always serious whenever they interact. I think blue does find red intimidating sometimes and blue is defo more aware of herself whenever red is around. I think it might feel like being constantly criticised. I can't see it ever changing unless one of them leaves but I don't think red will. I think blue will need to move onwards and upwards and I am sure she will at some point.

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