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Topic: Mixed Midpoints in Synastry
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4711 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 08:20 AM
I would look at the Yin/Yang pairs:Sun/Moon (his Sun/her Moon, her Sun/his Moon) Venus/Mars (her Venus/his Mars, her Mars/his Venus) Moon/Saturn (etc.) maybe Moon/Mars Moon/Venus Sun/Venus a planet or an asteroid there in your natals would be like a "glue" or a "trigger" of that energy, a planet that integrates that pair. A composite planet will show the energy of that pair is integrated through the composite planet. Then I would look at the midpoints for the important aspects you have. Of course, a planet on the midpoint of an aspect creates a structure. For example, the midpoint of a trine creates a Grand Trine or a Minor Triangle. The midpoint of a square is connected with semi-squares to each of the two planets. So the midpoint planet/asteroid is basically an apex. It has an integrative function for that aspect. It will play a major role for that aspect, either as trigger or as receiver. This is the underlying tapestry of your synastry and all these connections make your synastry a dense structure. There are always many midpoint configurations in a good synastry. You may discover new aspects. For instance, looking for the midpoint between his Sun and my Moon (biquintile), I found my Eros. I discovered his Sun quintile my Eros and that my own Moon quintile my Eros which I didn't know hehehe. And I have ultimately found another Golden Yod. I will come back with my aspects and some famous examples. Allow for an orb of 2. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14344 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 29, 2014 08:32 AM
YAY been waiting for it.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14344 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 29, 2014 08:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
The midpoint of a square is connected with semi-squares to each of the two planets. So the midpoint planet/asteroid is basically an apex. It has an integrative function for that aspect. It will play a major role for that aspect, either as trigger or as receiver.
We have that actually. my Neptune and NN square my Jupiter (1°03 and 1°16)
his Venus sits on the midpoint semisquare my Jupiter (0°17), Neptune (0°58) and NN (0°45) his Venus also intersects my one degree Moon-Venus-novile, making semi-noviles to Moon (1°11) and especially Venus (0°11)
(not a mixed mp though I know) For a seemingly unaspected synastric Venus his sits on quite some activation-points. lol
Oh funny enough his Eros is also quintile my Sun and both are biquintile my Priapus on 2 Leo, which sits on our composite DESC on 1 leo, which of course was the point Moon-Sun-Jupiter were transiting on saturday. lol Priapus-Eros are actually conjunct on the IC in our composite, so I will have to look into that particular tapestry methinks.
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Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2186 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 29, 2014 08:39 AM
LeeLoo,You said: a planet or an asteroid there in your natals would be like a "glue" or a "trigger" of that energy, a planet that integrates that pair. Would you explain please with an example. So, how can a natal planet be a trigger - when it is in aspect with another in synastry? Here's an easy example. Venus/Pluto = Mars (what else ) My Mars is conjunct his Adorea. So his adoration will trigger ..........? On the other hand, my Venus and Adonis are both conjunct his Sun/Moon mid point. But not conjunct any natal planet at his Sun/Moon md pt. How would this differ from the earlier example?
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4711 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 08:44 AM
I think these are very important, Ceri, I mean to discover a planet seemingly unaspected is siting on one or more midpoints. The energy of that planet is activated in more subtle ways, it will not be in your face, perhaps it will take more time.
So his Venus integrates your novile, which is a harmonious flowing structure. I think this could give a subtle, underlying feeling of peace and happiness in your connection. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 793 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 29, 2014 09:15 AM
Hello sweetheart,I am really eager to see your famous examples since I have – to be honest – never seen midpoints to be that significant in synastries. Sometimes the sun/moon is being hit hard but usually that’s it
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4711 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 09:26 AM
Hi, Enneline, how are you! I was referring to his Sun/her Moon her Sun/his Moon etc., the mixed ones.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4711 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 09:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: LeeLoo,You said: a planet or an asteroid there in your natals would be like a "glue" or a "trigger" of that energy, a planet that integrates that pair. Would you explain please with an example. So, how can a natal planet be a trigger - when it is in aspect with another in synastry? Here's an easy example. Venus/Pluto = Mars (what else ) My Mars is conjunct his Adorea. So his adoration will trigger ..........? On the other hand, my Venus and Adonis are both conjunct his Sun/Moon mid point. But not conjunct any natal planet at his Sun/Moon md pt. How would this differ from the earlier example?
Alright..I should have specified in the OP, now I corrected it. We're talking MIXED midpoints here: your Venus/his Mars, your Moon/his Sun and viceversa. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1425 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 09:40 AM
Now the Persona charts would come into handy ^^------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4711 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 10:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by Tulipe: Now the Persona charts would come into handy ^^
What are you suggesting? ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4711 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 10:04 AM
Here they are:His Sun/my Moon (biquintile) 4 Gem/Sag My Eros (and our Venus/Mars/Neptune etc Cross, but Eros is right there - his Mars conjunct my Eros a bit further) - so my Eros integrates the "union" between his Sun/my Moon, it is most likely a glue for the luminaries "wedding". Which gives a connection a general erotic vibe. Composite/Davison Cupido is there too, no wonder: Cupido is another form of Eros. It's nice to find repeating archetypes. A Quintile Minor Triangle - so our Sun/Moon union is permeated by Quintile energy, not to mention that Eros DOES have a quintile energy My Sun/his Moon (sextile) 18 Libra/Aries His Chiron in 18 Aries - which means his Chiron quincunx my Sun and his Moon - we have a Yod! His Chiron integrates and receives the energy of my Sun/his Moon in a Yod fashion. This could involve pain, longing and healing, especially from his side. The closest planet to the release, on the actual mdp, is his Vesta (15 Libra). It is outside the range of a mdp conjunction, but being a Yod, I will consider it as the primary result of our Sun/Moon sextile integration. There is longing, healing, pain, passion and commitment in this Chiron Vesta Yod connected to the Sun/Moon sextile.
Composite 18 Libra conjuncts Lust. It goes well with Vesta The whole combination could show some tantric potential. His Mars/my Venus (square) 21 Cancer/Cap My DSC is there, so is my Cupido. So my DSC is on our mixed Venus/Mars mdp. Obviously a great contact. Cupido there injects freshness into the contact, also: I could be smitten by this aspect in our synastry. His Lilith is on the other side, in Cap. For him, our my Venus/his Mars has a Lilith feeling and input. He will take this aspect very seriously lol My Mars/his Venus (trine) 4 Sag/Gem we get back to his Sun/my Moon So the trine between Venus Mars and the biquintile between Sun/Moon have the same midpoint! And in fact, it is crossed by our Cross. I think this is a nice integration of Sun/Moon with Venus/Mars and Eros and the rest of the chart.
I'll get back with the others, wanted to show you some examples.
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Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1425 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 10:07 AM
Look what I found:His Moon/my Saturn: 1 ARIES 45 My Moon/his Saturn: 0 LIBRA 08 His Moon opposite my Saturn so those midpoints square them. The juicy part is that his Mars 28 VIR 10, his Pholus 2 ARIES 21. Cool, right? ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4711 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 10:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by Tulipe: Look what I found:His Moon/my Saturn: 1 ARIES 45 My Moon/his Saturn: 0 LIBRA 08 His Moon opposite my Saturn so those midpoints square them. The juicy part is that his Mars 28 VIR 10, his Pholus 2 ARIES 21. Cool, right?
Very cool indeed...especially on the relationship axis. And his Mars is there...wow...nice! Are your Moon/his Saturn in aspect? ------------------
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Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1425 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 10:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: What are you suggesting?
Do Composite chart for your Venus Persona and his Mars Persona, the Composite Sun is your Venus/his Mars midpoint. No calculator needed. ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4711 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 10:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Tulipe: Do Composite chart for your Venus Persona and his Mars Persona, the Composite Sun is your Venus/his Mars midpoint. No calculator needed.
Haha smart girl! ------------------
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Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1425 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 10:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Very cool indeed...especially on the relationship axis. And his Mars is there...wow...nice! Are your Moon/his Saturn in aspect?
My Moon novile his Saturn. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4711 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 10:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by Tulipe: My Moon novile his Saturn.
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Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1425 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 10:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Here they are:So the trine between Venus Mars and the biquintile between Sun/Moon have the same midpoint! And in fact, it is crossed by our Cross. I think this is a nice integration of Sun/Moon with Venus/Mars and Eros and the rest of the chart.
Yes, very. for Eros lol. You have great aspects there! I love those Yods, Yod girl.
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Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1425 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 10:25 AM
Do we have an aspect for 100 degrees?------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4711 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 10:26 AM
Now...another awesome finding:My Moon/his Saturn 21 Cancer/Cap Yay! It's the same as my Venus/his Mars (the square) Semisquare between my Moon/his Saturn, so my DSC makes an octile (I think, Ceri?) with my Moon and his Saturn. Which also means my Moon/his Saturn semisquare is "hugged" by our Mars/Venus square. Is it so, Ceri?? Well, not a traditional "hugging", but still. What do you think?
His Moon/my Saturn (exact trine) 16 Virgo/Pisces
The only thing here is the mdp between his Sun/my Jupiter (conjunct by 9 deg). We have a GT between Sun Moon Saturn and this mdp is the actual leg of the GT. A nice mixed midpoint indeed connecting Moon/Saturn with Sun/Jupiter! ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 4711 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 10:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by Tulipe: Do we have an aspect for 100 degrees?
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Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1425 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 29, 2014 10:33 AM
His Sun is 100 degrees from my Moon, do we have an aspect of 100 degrees?EDIT: Oh, it's a 10 degrees square, but no one count this much orb lol. ------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14344 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 29, 2014 10:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: I think these are very important, Ceri, I mean to discover a planet seemingly unaspected is siting on one or more midpoints. The energy of that planet is activated in more subtle ways, it will not be in your face, perhaps it will take more time.
So his Venus integrates your novile, which is a harmonious flowing structure. I think this could give a subtle, underlying feeling of peace and happiness in your connection.
Jup, it does. It is also aligned with his Juno, which is making a Novile-Yod with my Moon and Venus. his Juno quadranovile my Moon (0°33) and Venus (1°33) Also remember how my DESC, Juno, Saturn fall noto his Sun in 9th harmonic?
This alerts to another 9th harmonic pattern in fact starting with his Sun his Sun 27 Sagittarius his Moon and MC 28 Sag my Juno 17 Pisces my DESC 7 Gemini my Saturn 17 Cancer his BML 28 Leo my Pluto 9 Libra my MC 5 Libra (7 Libra would be th exact point) of course these Yods include several mixed mipoints as well
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14344 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 29, 2014 10:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: Hello sweetheart,I am really eager to see your famous examples since I have – to be honest – never seen midpoints to be that significant in synastries. Sometimes the sun/moon is being hit hard but usually that’s it
Really? To me midpoints make a LOT of sense. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14344 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 29, 2014 10:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Now...another awesome finding:My Moon/his Saturn 21 Cancer/Cap Yay! It's the same as my Venus/his Mars (the square) Semisquare between my Moon/his Saturn, so my DSC makes an octile (I think, Ceri?) with my Moon and his Saturn. Which also means my Moon/his Saturn semisquare is "hugged" by our Mars/Venus square. Is it so, Ceri?? Well, not a traditional "hugging", but still. What do you think?
His Moon/my Saturn (exact trine) 16 Virgo/Pisces
The only thing here is the mdp between his Sun/my Jupiter (conjunct by 9 deg). We have a GT between Sun Moon Saturn and this mdp is the actual leg of the GT. A nice mixed midpoint indeed connecting Moon/Saturn with Sun/Jupiter!
I need images. Preferably both natal charts.
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