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IntuitiveJ
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posted July 30, 2014 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would love to get some opinions/experiences from anyone having gone thru this either once or multiple times. It's happened to me many times since meeting my higher level soulmate (not sure I can call him my TF) and the intense pain/longing/fear/emotion is just overwhelming & heart breaking. It's the only way I can describe it.
There's no explanation to it, no rhyme or reason. Incredible feelings of being lost...am I alone in my feelings...am I being punished...what direction am I heading in....like being put in the middle of a Forrest with no map or directions on how to get out.
After I come out of this stage I go thru phases of clarity & deeper knowing/intuition.
It's the insane pull between the heart knowing what it wants & the mind fighting it.
Anyone else want to share?

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posted July 30, 2014 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhyMe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am going through many "dark" soul nights here. As I said before, the pain is so awful that I cannot breathe sometimes. I have tried all the bandages -- calling friends, hanging out with animals at the local shelters, watching sappy movies - and there is temporary relief but the pain is always there.

I think when you meet your "soul mate", your immediate wish is to "merge" with that person. Not sure if I can call the disappearing "friend" a "soul mate" but I wanted to spend every minute of every day with him. I couldn't get enough of him, actually, and began to have emotional outbursts when I felt that he was "ignoring" me. In hindsight, he just needed his space.

Well, I paid heavily for my stupidity. I don't know where you are in your relationship, but I hope that your TF is all and more than you ever asked for ! Good luck !

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posted July 30, 2014 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It happened to me from my birth till I was 22. All I can say is don't give up no matter what and know in the end life will be good to you if youre good to life.

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IndigoDirae
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posted July 30, 2014 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If we've been briefly reunited with a Twin Flame, we're not ready. Period. They aren't, and neither are we.

I've recently identified the 'missing link' on this journey, which I've termed the Guardian Soul, after having this independently confirmed as such.

It's like meeting your Twin Flame after you've met your Twin Flame; you begin questioning what you then knew.

It's THAT strong. It was for me, at least. Still is. Even more so.

I think that I can begin identifying these Guardian Souls astrologically -- both synastrically and in the natal. They're akin to sharing Twin Flame features, but missing the mark.

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posted July 30, 2014 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi WhyMe-
I'm sorry for the pain you are experiencing.
Did your relationship ever morph into anything deeper then a platonic friendship on a mental or physical level? I am in no position to give advice but I can say that you are exactly where you're supposed to be. Accepting that is a huge struggle but once I made peace with that part I stopped wishing/hoping/praying things would change. He & I are not together- I can't label it. It's way more then a friendship & not yet a relationship.
At this very moment there's silence between us for several weeks.
I accept it.

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posted July 30, 2014 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
If we've been briefly reunited with a Twin Flame, we're not ready. Period. They aren't, and neither are we.

I've recently identified the 'missing link' on this journey, which I've termed the Guardian Soul, after having this independently confirmed as such.

It's like meeting your Twin Flame after you've met your Twin Flame; you begin questioning what you then knew.

It's THAT strong. It was for me, at least. Still is. Even more so.

I think that I can begin identifying these Guardian Souls astrologically -- both synastrically and in the natal. They're akin to sharing Twin Flame features, but missing the mark.


I would be curious if the man I'm referring to may be the missing link guardian soul.
We don't quite meet the TF markers. Something for me to think about

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posted July 30, 2014 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Incidentally, I've noticed many people tend to think that they've met their Twin because they've fallen deeply in love, or had paranormal and psychic experiences, or they've dreamt of them for many years.

Not necessarily a Twin Flame. Could very easily be a Soulmate, maybe even a Guardian -- IF you ARE a Twin Flame.

The Twin Flame experience is phenomenal. But I'd have to say that in comparison to my Guardian Soul, I could never measure it by depth of love. That's not your measure -- or an accurate one. I think that many Twin Flames have met their Guardian and mistaken them for their Twin.

It just takes time and investigation to know the true difference. It becomes clear eventually.

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posted July 30, 2014 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You go into the dark night to clear all the toxic junk that is blocking you from knowing who you truly are. Little bits at a time so has not to overwhelm you. When you come out your are more clear because another layer blocking your soul has been removed. But not enough. You have to go back in and remove another layer. And another. Each time gets easier as you are closer to knowing the real you. You realize you are leaving people behind and have to move on. That is painful and scary. All change is scary. Meditation has helped me immensely.

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posted July 30, 2014 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by WhyMe:
I think when you meet your "soul mate", your immediate wish is to "merge" with that person. Not sure if I can call the disappearing "friend" a "soul mate" but I wanted to spend every minute of every day with him. I couldn't get enough of him, actually, and began to have emotional outbursts when I felt that he was "ignoring" me. In hindsight, he just needed his space.

Ah, yes. This is a sign of obsession -- not love. Twin Flame love doesn't operate this way; unresolved karma does. You CAN have it with your Twin, but it's unlikely to be as strong as unresolved karma. First order of business is to learn to live without them.

Yes. It is. You must; learn self-love and to actually be happy -- without them. Even if that's in another relationship with someone deserving of you. Often, we're going after relationships which are at odds with our path. In other words, our Twin isn't good for us -- yet. IF they were, indeed our Twin.

In either case, if it's an obsessive relationship, then it's going to take serious work -- especially on yourself. If they're not willing to work with you? Twin or not? Move on. It's the absolute best thing for you.

The dark night will end, and you'll be a whole new person. :: hug ::

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posted July 30, 2014 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
Hi WhyMe-
I'm sorry for the pain you are experiencing.
Did your relationship ever morph into anything deeper then a platonic friendship on a mental or physical level? I am in no position to give advice but I can say that you are exactly where you're supposed to be. Accepting that is a huge struggle but once I made peace with that part I stopped wishing/hoping/praying things would change. He & I are not together- I can't label it. It's way more then a friendship & not yet a relationship.
At this very moment there's silence between us for several weeks.
I accept it.

All of this. That's exactly it, J. It's exactly what you have to do. Kudos to you for doing it. No, it's NOT easy; but it's all you CAN do.

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posted July 30, 2014 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
All of this. That's exactly it, J. It's exactly what you have to do. Kudos to you for doing it. No, it's NOT easy; but it's all you CAN do.

Thank you Indigo
It's taken me almost 2 years to actually get to this point & FEEL it in my soul.
That acceptance here is key. I no longer reach out to him for crumbs of reassurance. There's silence. And I'm ok. It's all part of the journey.

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posted July 30, 2014 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
I would be curious if the man I'm referring to may be the missing link guardian soul.
We don't quite meet the TF markers. Something for me to think about

I've thought about that, too. And, I'll be completely honest, the fact this man ISN'T my Twin is practically meaningless. We love unconditionally. We have honesty, and don't play games. Ever. We also have very, very heavy karma. Yet, we're not Twin Flames -- despite everything to the contrary. You'd SWEAR it.

But there's a reason for that. The energy is different. When you really think about it -- it makes sense. It's just ... different. And EXTREMELY powerful.

He's taught me to accept no less than I fully deserve. To be adored, admired, and appreciated; supported, encouraged, and truly loved. To not question the love or fear its loss. To have faith. To be secure within MYSELF. And, in return, he's gone to GREAT lengths to be ABLE to love me.

For that ... I have only gratitude. I push myself harder. To do the things I NEED to do, not succumb to fear. It's brought two extremely dear Soulmates into my life -- one brother and one sister.

My life is a far cry from what it was. I'm extremely grateful. Every single day.

We don't have 'just' Soulmates. We have an incredible ensemble karmic cast of which we're a part. Our Twin Flame may be receiving top billing with us -- or not. Maybe our Guardian is the swing who's got to fill the role in the meanwhile.

And for me, it's made ALL the difference.

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posted July 30, 2014 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
Thank you Indigo
It's taken me almost 2 years to actually get to this point & FEEL it in my soul.
That acceptance here is key. I no longer reach out to him for crumbs of reassurance. There's silence. And I'm ok. It's all part of the journey.

YES! EXACTLY! I'm applauding across the miles! You've GOT it.

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posted July 30, 2014 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhyMe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I've thought about that, too. And, I'll be completely honest, the fact this man ISN'T my Twin is practically meaningless. We love unconditionally. We have honesty, and don't play games. Ever. We also have very, very heavy karma. Yet, we're not Twin Flames -- despite everything to the contrary. You'd SWEAR it.

But there's a reason for that. The energy is different. When you really think about it -- it makes sense. It's just ... different. And EXTREMELY powerful.

He's taught me to accept no less than I fully deserve. To be adored, admired, and appreciated; supported, encouraged, and truly loved. To not question the love or fear its loss. To have faith. To be secure within MYSELF. And, in return, he's gone to GREAT lengths to be ABLE to love me.

For that ... I have only gratitude. I push myself harder. To do the things I NEED to do, not succumb to fear. It's brought two extremely dear Soulmates into my life -- one brother and one sister.

My life is a far cry from what it was. I'm extremely grateful. Every single day.

We don't have 'just' Soulmates. We have an incredible ensemble karmic cast of which we're a part. Our Twin Flame may be receiving top billing with us -- or not. Maybe our Guardian is the swing who's got to fill the role in the meanwhile.

And for me, it's made ALL the difference.


Thing is, after I met him, my life underwent a MAJOR upheaval. I mean financially, professionally, emotionally - it was a total volte face. Not all of it was good, but some of it was. It also helped me face the demons of the past which included abusive parents and a traumatic childhood.

I learned to let the past go with lots of help and support from him. I can honestly say that I have never felt unconditionally loved as when I was with him. Ironically, I always considered him my BEST FRIEND, until one fine morning, I woke up and realized that I am in love with him, in addition to liking him greatly as a friend.

That was when things started going downhill. I became more possessive - or more obsessive - as you put it. We have had periods where we didn't communicate for days before, but all of a sudden, him not talking to me for 2 days in a row was a big deal. I do know that I have some undesirable personality traits, and I became insecure again, and had major emotional outbursts when he needed space.

My life isnt what it was last year. I have not just grown older chronologically, but I have grown emotionally. I got help for my childhood trauma, made major career moves, and even physically moved from where I had lived for over 20 years ! Plus, I cut off contact with my toxic parents. So, yes, he did bring great changes to my life, but he is now gone.

I almost wonder if he quit once his Karmic business with me (which was to help me heal and move on) had finished ?

I miss him so much, and if he came back, I would be happy to just be friends with him again. Indigo, someone said that you always answer requests. Please could you take a look at our charts and see if there is anything left for us, including maybe a good friendship ?

Please, please, pretty please ?

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posted July 30, 2014 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhyMe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
Hi WhyMe-
I'm sorry for the pain you are experiencing.
Did your relationship ever morph into anything deeper then a platonic friendship on a mental or physical level? I am in no position to give advice but I can say that you are exactly where you're supposed to be. Accepting that is a huge struggle but once I made peace with that part I stopped wishing/hoping/praying things would change. He & I are not together- I can't label it. It's way more then a friendship & not yet a relationship.
At this very moment there's silence between us for several weeks.
I accept it.

That is exactly it, too. We were MORE than friends, but not in a relationship. And we did have lots of emotional intimacy. We shared EVERYTHING, but as friends. There was nothing physical or sexual about us, although once I began to get "feelings", I found him extremely physically attractive and a tad aggressive.

How many weeks of no contact has it been for you ? Were you in regular contact before ? Did he hint that it was a temporary break ? Do you believe that he is coming back ?

(((((HUGS)))).

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posted July 30, 2014 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenny415     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I only have gone thru dark nights of soul. I am 27 now and dontthink i need any more years. I dont have hope as i not loved by anyone and think my purpose was to sacrifice myself for everyone ti take advantage of. But my time done.

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posted July 30, 2014 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
YES! EXACTLY! I'm applauding across the miles! You've GOT it.

. Thank you!
I'm not even sure if I should care anymore what the correct "label" is.
TF, guardian, soulmate, etc
Astrologically I've tried to figure it out but I can't quite come up with an answer.
It feels like a TF. But the markers aren't quite there. I just know he's someone who has had a MAJOR impact on my soul growth/path.
Moments of sheer intense joy mixed with the deepest longing & despair.
What's meant to be will be. This completely changed my life.

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posted July 30, 2014 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I only have gone thru dark nights of soul. I am 27 now and dontthink i need any more years. I dont have hope as i not loved by anyone and think my purpose was to sacrifice myself for everyone ti take advantage of. But my time done.

As they say when you're going through Hell, Jenny, you've got to just keep going. Hades stole Persephone from all she knew. It was HER choice to transform the situation from abuse into evolution, ultimately resulting in her reigning as Queen of the Underworld.

We can choose whether to be a victim -- or a leader.

bheart:

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posted July 30, 2014 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by WhyMe:
That is exactly it, too. We were MORE than friends, but not in a relationship. And we did have lots of emotional intimacy. We shared EVERYTHING, but as friends. There was nothing physical or sexual about us, although once I began to get "feelings", I found him extremely physically attractive and a tad aggressive.

How many weeks of no contact has it been for you ? Were you in regular contact before ? Did he hint that it was a temporary break ? Do you believe that he is coming back ?

(((((HUGS)))).


We have never been in typical regular contact. When we met I was married, when I decided to divorce he was involved with someone else. He still is. He can't stay away for long but I've made it very clear I'm no side piece & he needs to be happy as do I. Accepting crumbs no longer works for me. It's been 3 weeks of silence as of tomorrow.
There's a lust between us that's indescribable.
He's not ready...

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posted July 30, 2014 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by WhyMe:
That is exactly it, too. We were MORE than friends, but not in a relationship. And we did have lots of emotional intimacy. We shared EVERYTHING, but as friends. There was nothing physical or sexual about us, although once I began to get "feelings", I found him extremely physically attractive and a tad aggressive.

How many weeks of no contact has it been for you ? Were you in regular contact before ? Did he hint that it was a temporary break ? Do you believe that he is coming back ?

(((((HUGS)))).


For me, it's been a hard journey. We've known each other since 2006. Until 2013, we were each other's best friend. In 2012, that changed as we attempted -- toyed with -- a relationship. Failed.

I'd say I was out of contact from October 2012 to this past month. What is that ... 1.5 years? Sporadic contact. I just never returned his calls. I was done with the abuse. Done.

Of course that's REALLY when the soul longing began. Thing is, when you try and cut the cord from your Twin, it's ... hard to describe. You become physically ill. Horribly. Their life falls apart. You're both feeling as if someone has drained you. Completely. You don't know depression until you've been through this kind of severing soul withdrawal.

That's what prompted me to FINALLY end the estrangement. We'd seen each other the month prior, and it felt like old times. It ALWAYS does. That why it's SO hard. We CAN'T do this, in our lives as they are. And so, the other option is ... don't.

We'd grown exponentially. The distance helped us both reorient. We know what's what now -- and, at this time -- it's enough.

That's what I learnt about Twins, though. It's not conscious. It's not even sane. Your brain -- and your heart -- are uninvolved. But BAM -- your soul takes over, and it's a sucker punch.

So if you're disconnecting from this man -- even so much as uttering the words, 'please, release me! I can't do this!' and your life suddenly takes a nosedive, bringing down your health in a matter of days -- you MIGHT be a Twin.

But you've got to get through the obsession first. You really, really do. It's ... soul addiction. Just like any substance, you have to forge new habits, and avoid the individual. On an astral level? Oooh. That's tough. You've got to be stronger.

The truth is, if they're not showing you love and acceptance -- it's time to let go. Twin, Soulmate, even Guardian. Things will be in THEIR time -- not yours.

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posted July 30, 2014 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

So if you're disconnecting from this man -- even so much as uttering the words, 'please, release me! I can't do this!' and your life suddenly takes a nosedive, bringing down your health in a matter of days -- you MIGHT be a Twin.

But you've got to get through the obsession first. You really, really do. It's ... soul addiction. Just like any substance, you have to forge new habits, and avoid the individual. On an astral level? Oooh. That's tough. You've got to be stronger.

The truth is, if they're not showing you love and acceptance -- it's time to let go. Twin, Soulmate, even Guardian. Things will be in THEIR time -- not yours.


Lightbulb post of the day!
I could not agree with you more!

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posted August 01, 2014 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lightbulb post of the day!
I could not agree with you more!

I second that !!! can't go into details but October 2012 was a nightmare!!!!

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