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Topic: Quindecile + its orbs in synastry
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Keela Knowflake Posts: 537 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted August 07, 2014 02:28 AM
Would you consider the sometimes mentioned 2-2,5 degree orb for quindeciles okay in synastry? It's such a specific aspect that although it's also said to be quite strong by many people, I'm not sure how far and wide it operates in synastry instead of in a person's own chart. Asteroids have taught me to balk at anything much beyond 2 degrees so I'm wary on less common aspects. If there is a 6.53 Leo ASC quindecile 21 Aquarius (and Capricorn) and a 19.51 Leo ASC with quindecile spots at 4 Leo and Pisces... Is this a case of both people having their Ascendants quindecile the other's DC? How would you see ASC quindecile DC working in synastry? If the aspect is described as toward obsessive by some, do you see the double whammy as being an equivalent to two people with perhaps their Ascendants opposite, meaning ASC-DC contact between two charts? More on quindecile behind the link, but what of the orbs or that specific combination? I've never considered how something like that would work with the ASC-DC angle. One person's Ascendant in fixating contact with the other's DC? http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/222351.html IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3618 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 07, 2014 02:35 AM
I do expand to 2°, yes. I've noticed it doesn't weaken the link or give me false positives. Quindeciles are just very potent aspects. Especially when involving luminaries and personal points. Natal quindeciles will always 'activate' synastric ones, too. I'd say watch out for the quadronovile potentially confounding the quindecile. (It's 160°.) In this case, don't stretch a quindecile beyond 2°30 in that direction; cap at 163°. However, beyond 165°, I've expanded to 167° -- even 168° -- in some very special cases -- without issue. It's surprisingly valid -- again, in my personal experience. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3618 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 07, 2014 02:38 AM
Example:The EROS quindecile EROS I have in a particular synastry is 1°. Ohhh, it's potent. Even between two asteroids; 1° is perfectly viable, in my experience. IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 537 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted August 07, 2014 03:08 AM
ID,The exact quindecile spots would be 21.53 Aquarius and his DC 19.51 so they're very close on the minutes front. Also with his quindecile of course being 4.51 Aquarius so there being the DC at 6.53 likewise at just 2 degrees and the 2' away. It's the guy I mentioned elsewhere with the interesting composite. There are a ton of "unusual" or "smaller" aspects in the synastry, anyway. Everything is inconjunct, quindecile, some quintile, this and that with Suns inconjunct and sesquiquadrate the other person's Moon as a DW - but not the conventional sorts of contact noted by most. Venus quindecile Mars Venus inconjunct Valentine Saturn quindecile Vertex (exact+ 2 deg) Moon quindecile Karma Cupido quindecile Valentine Adonis quindecile Lust Sun quindecile NN by 1 NN quindecile Amor Lust " Amor from the other side and probably several more. I have quite a few quindeciles natally as well (Moon-Merc, Venus quindecile BML by 1 among them from what I recall) and I think he had some at least as well.
Any ideas on how ASC quindecile DC works? It's the DW with the 2 degrees 2' orb as said I guess. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14497 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 07, 2014 04:06 AM
I am using 2 degrees as well, but suppose it feels stronger up to one degree, unless it is part of a larger pattern. Interestingly my pr Venus is currently applying to an exact quindecile with his natal Mars. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3618 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 07, 2014 05:28 AM
My VENUS is quindecile my Twin's MARS, 1°30, if I recall. It's a very potent, troublesome link. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14497 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 07, 2014 05:32 AM
Why troublesome?IP: Logged |
Selene Knowflake Posts: 846 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted August 07, 2014 06:51 AM
They give quite a pull to each other, one that you cannot explain. I have 3 with Mr.UranusSun quindecile Sun Moon quindecile Moon Mars quindecile Mars IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 537 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted August 07, 2014 07:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: My VENUS is quindecile my Twin's MARS, 1°30, if I recall. It's a very potent, troublesome link.
Is there any certain kind of a ("romantic") relationship where quindeciles perhaps pop up more often than in other sorts? I've gathered it's strong or potent, and how people like it probably depends on their natal charts, but how would you rate it compared to a sesquiquadrate, inconjunct or something else on the side of "Not necessarily the smoothest of aspects"? People rate conjunction as a harsh aspect as well but I never counted that as something such either, even with the supposed no-nos of Mars-Saturn or such. I don't mind two people fixating on each other, but I wonder if it leads to less longevity or something such then perhaps? IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 537 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted August 07, 2014 07:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: I am using 2 degrees as well, but suppose it feels stronger up to one degree, unless it is part of a larger pattern. Interestingly my pr Venus is currently applying to an exact quindecile with his natal Mars.
In the example case, ASC is also exactly quindecile the Mars that the other way is quindecile Venus. The man's descendant is the two degrees from his Mars and thus part of the pattern to a certain extent. The woman's Part of Fortune is exactly quindecile the man's ASC and square his MC-IC, her DC the two away from her PF. Actually, I now see the man's POF is conjunct her Moon, too, but that's not about quindeciles here. IP: Logged |