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Geeky
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posted August 09, 2014 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is carried over from this conversation: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/228464.html

THANK YOU!

I don't know how to read these things. I can read the interactive options on astro.com because it tells me the aspects. But I'm not very good at actually SEEING them and deciphering what's what (aside from conjunctions and oppositions, those are easy for me to see).

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Geeky
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posted August 09, 2014 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm the one on the outside, apparently.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted August 10, 2014 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooh. i am terrible at reading these too.

Do you mind posting individual charts or yourself and the hubby?

And could you ensure that they both include the table on the bottom? I find that more helpful and user-friendly.

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geminigal2805
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posted August 10, 2014 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Geeky,
His Asc ruler and Pluto on Your Asc ruler(Sun) in his seventh house.
Your Desc ruler aspecting his Desc ruler.
8R Neptune to his Venus.
And your personal planets in his love houses!

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posted August 10, 2014 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Geeky,
His Asc ruler and Pluto on Your Asc ruler(Sun) in his seventh house.
Your Desc ruler aspecting his Desc ruler.
8R Neptune to his Venus.
And your personal planets in his love houses!

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Geeky
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posted August 10, 2014 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Do you mind posting individual charts or yourself and the hubby?

And could you ensure that they both include the table on the bottom? I find that more helpful and user-friendly.


Will do!

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Geeky
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posted August 10, 2014 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me:

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Geeky
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posted August 10, 2014 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The hubs:

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Geeky
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posted August 10, 2014 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow Geeky,
His Asc ruler and Pluto on Your Asc ruler(Sun) in his seventh house.
Your Desc ruler aspecting his Desc ruler.
8R Neptune to his Venus.
And your personal planets in his love houses!

Is all of this good?

I see Neptune there... is that bad?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted August 10, 2014 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay. Let's see.

Neptune on the angles.

You rarely know what you want, but you are very clear that you are not getting it; There is confusion here is to how you feel, how your partner feels and how you two relate to each other.

You can never be sure that you are "loved"- you may have clues or references,but these are so vague and "misty" in their nature, that you are not happy still.

Sometimes you may believe that you are and than at other times, you may think that you are deceiving yourself.

You may get mad at yourself/at him for not being able to name what you want or being able to give it.

You don't have an idea of what you need and when and so , sometimes, you can expect him to give you something that he himself doesn't know the nature of.

Saturn on the angle

Saturn can confirm a fear of being "unlovable" or having to find that your relationship with the partner lacks intimacy,closeness or any sentimentality.

The square aspect with the Moon(also on the angle),suggests to me that you are receptive,sensitive, romantic and loving.

You just have issues with having to express that nature as you do not want to come across "needy","demanding","weepy" or "crabby".

Saturn contradicts the Moon and makes one swing between being rational one minute and "over-emotional" the next

Now I love Mercury on the angle,that is fabulous as it lends a very talkative nature.

But I don't like Mercury when it conjuncts Saturn on the angle because many of Mercury's traits take on a more "serious" ,"heavy" tone.

On the plus side, I would love your sense of humour; it is likely to lean more towards the sarcastic,dark/dry humor- more than slapstick.

You may appreciate British-type humor a lot; where there is a play on words and where timing and delivery are key.

But on the not-so good side. Mercury sitting with Saturn on an angle is like this;

Saturn: I am so unloved. I don't feel appreciated at all.

Mercury: That's because you are difficult to love. Let us go through the intricate details of just how humorless you can be. Of course you will be unlovable

Saturn: No-one ever asks how I am doing. Everyone assumes that I am the strong one and can take anything.

Mercury: You will always be like this .People who are strong don't need anyone. Get used to being lonely.

It can get so bad that depression,angst and ideas of worthlessness creep in. Mercury just parrots and details everything that Saturn says.

The hubby has his Neptune sitting on your angle(4th house specifically);

On the one hand,he makes you believe in miracles and fairy tales, but then on the other hand,when the star dust is finished, you can accuse him of deceiving you and making you think certain things were possible when they could "never" be.

His Moon sits on your angle(10th house). He is very loving,caring,emotional and sentimental towards you.

He likes to take care of you and you consider him, albeit sometimes very moody, to be an affectionate person.

But what stops this thought form being dominant in you?

His Neptune on your angle(as mentioned above) as well as .DING DONG...his Saturn sitting on your angle(specifically the 7th house).

He can behave very cold,austere and inflexible with you. He can confirm those terrible thoughts of being "unlovable" and can project a very aloof distance from you.

His Neptune on your angle can give a spiritual bond too.(on the positive side). And with his Venus very close to you 7th house angle-he is very sexy, attractive and a loving person to you.

You may have your own inner insecurities that you need to deal with, but let this relationship be a reflection of the best part of yourself.

You both have fears with expressing emotional vulnerabilities/being rejected.

He also has Moon and Saturn on his personal angles and so, this quality is pronounced in him too.

Maybe that is why you two were attracted to each other? To show these issues to each other?

He has Pluto on the angle(7th) and he is very serious about this relationship.He will give it his ALL.

Talk to him about these fears and build on what you "expect" from him-so that it is clear to him and yourself what you expect and he knows when either of you is expected to give

It's time to talk....


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posted August 10, 2014 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Okay. Let's see.

Wow, everything you wrote felt spot on. I just want to highlight some key points.

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You rarely know what you want, but you are very clear that you are not getting it; There is confusion here is to how you feel, how your partner feels and how you two relate to each other.

I can see this in myself. It must be very frustrating to other people because it certainly drives me crazy! I don't always know what I want but I am confident in what I don't want.

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The square aspect with the Moon(also on the angle),suggests to me that you are receptive,sensitive, romantic and loving.

You just have issues with having to express that nature as you do not want to come across "needy","demanding","weepy" or "crabby".


"NEEDY"

Oh I hate that word. My worst fear is being needy because history has proven I can't rely on anyone (not even my parents). I am scared to death of being needy but emotionally, I am VERY needy.

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On the plus side, I would love your sense of humour; it is likely to lean more towards the sarcastic,dark/dry humor- more than slapstick.

You may appreciate British-type humor a lot; where there is a play on words and where timing and delivery are key.


Did you happen to notice he's British?

The funny thing is that I had a prejudice against men with foreign accents because my ex-husband used to fake an accent (very good, actually) but he used that talent to pick up women at bars and be a cheating loser.

In fact, when hubby first introduced himself as British, I thought, "Oh great, he probably thinks my panties will fly off" LOL!

But yes, even before I met him I was watching the BBC. And my hubby's humor is fantastic. I do laugh a lot with him.

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On the one hand,he makes you believe in miracles and fairy tales, but then on the other hand,when the star dust is finished, you can accuse him of deceiving you and making you think certain things were possible when they could "never" be.

He really did sweep me up in a fantasy because I kept asking myself, "Is this too good to be true?"

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And with his Venus very close to you 7th house angle-he is very sexy, attractive and a loving person to you.

Oh good Lord thank the Heavens he is soooooo HOT even though he's put on 20 pounds (I'm a Virgo, I notice!).

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I'm so cappy
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posted August 10, 2014 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm no expert but I'll throw my 2 cents tomorrow.

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I'm so cappy
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posted August 11, 2014 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, without reading the comments.

Moon in Gemini isn't known for steadiness and it's in the 4th house which probably contributes to the emotional fluctuation (but let's assume he does have feelings for you). It theoretically should also make him more emotionally warm and giving and perhaps it is there somewhere (on the other hand, the dispositor is in the 11th and this house tends to be detached) but the Moon is square your Saturn in his 7th. What if he perceives you as not as loving as you really are and withdraws in response? Additionally, his Saturn is opposite your Sun and this would reinforce his cold behaviour. His Uranus in the 7th is not good news either, hot and cold dynamics is very likely in relationships and it's also the dispositor of his "malfunctioning" Venus-Mars. Venus rules his 8th. Not beneficial for intimacy. Uranus conjunct your Sun with Pluto. What if it's some kind of psychological powerplay? Maybe he gets off to seeing you confused :/ Your Venus, Mars and Pluto (trine his Venus) in his 8th house. I think your intensity might be overwhelming to him and he doesn't bother to return it cause he either doesn't have as much of it or you're not the person who could bring it to the surface. I'm wonderinf if it makes any sense

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Geeky
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posted August 11, 2014 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Your Venus, Mars and Pluto (trine his Venus) in his 8th house. I think your intensity might be overwhelming to him and he doesn't bother to return it cause he either doesn't have as much of it or you're not the person who could bring it to the surface.

This part resonates.

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