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Topic: Is This A "Soulmate"-ish Composite?
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margym0o
Knowflake Posts: 128
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 12, 2014 10:09 AM
  
So of course I've done what everyone with their ever-evolving astrology knowledge has done and ran past relationship charts to compare to my current relationship charts and ran across this gem.I had a very good feeling about him from the second I heard his voice and we weathered many storms to finally end up together. We spent 3 easy years together, surviving his deployment to Afghanistan and I even moved to the US since him moving was not an option. We ended things because I missed home too much and though our relationship was easy and the love was strong, we had lost that "spark" and passion and I felt more like his mother towards the end since, at least back then, he was still very immature in a lot of ways. Now that I reflect I wonder what could have been for us, especially with this composite. I didn't think our synastry was particularly strong or anything special but our composite seems to be!  IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted August 12, 2014 10:47 AM
if the synastry isn't strong i don't think a composite matters at all. without good synastry you can't really progress to the composite imo.i wouldn't say this is soulmate stuff. the houses that are impacted are more... mundane and not active romance/commitment houses, and the moon has no aspects at all, excepting saturn. there are lots of trines, so obviously a fairly easy relationship in many areas, but the moon is all about emotions and caring, so with an absense of it in the chart... not great. and the mars in 8th opposing almost everything speaks more of a passion that would die out than one that would burn forever, imo. the chart has some lovely aspects, no doubt, but not soulmate or marriage stuff, and with neptune and uranus hanging around the DSC that is usually not a good sign for stability IP: Logged |
margym0o
Knowflake Posts: 128
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 12, 2014 11:18 AM
So the grand trine and kite formations don't necessarily mean as much?IP: Logged |
Blind writer
Knowflake Posts: 178
From: Texas, USA
Registered: May 2012
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posted August 12, 2014 11:30 AM
The chart geometry is dulled down due to the intercepted sign of Sagittarius. Its ruler, JUPITER is part of that trine formation, so that's two legs of the trine shot down. Both AC and DC ruler lie on intercepted Sag. SATURN's glue power was inaccessible for you two.I agree though - a composite really is second act to synastry. The composite is the sum and byproduct of a pair's synastric interactions. IP: Logged |
margym0o
Knowflake Posts: 128
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 12, 2014 01:52 PM
Hmm wow, very interesting. The things you miss as a newbie :PWhat about this composite in comparison? Better or even worse? It look far less...pretty than the first that is for sure.  IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
Moderator Posts: 5141
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 12, 2014 02:00 PM
The thing is, it's rather a bad idea to evaluate a composite without the synastry. The aspects in a composite are the midpoint structure of the synastry, and they reflect the natals, so you can't evaluate what the meaning of a sun square saturn or moon trine saturn etc means in a composite without seeing how they are projected from the synastry/what they mean in the natal. Composites cannot be interpreted by themselves; at least that's my opinion  Also, you need very precise TOBs to interpret a composite. You do have a general vibe when looking at a composite, but it can be very misleading. For example, you can find Uranus on ASC and DSC, but in the synastry, both people have Uranus in aspect to ASC, DSC or Sun, so it's different when you interpret the composite Uranus for two Uranian people or the composite Saturn for two Saturnian people vs. an Uranus on the composite angle for two people who have no prominent Uranus in their natal charts.------------------
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margym0o
Knowflake Posts: 128
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 12, 2014 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
The thing is, it's rather a bad idea to evaluate a composite without the synastry. The aspects in a composite are the midpoint structure of the synastry, and they reflect the natals, so you can't evaluate what the meaning of a sun square saturn or moon trine saturn etc means in a composite without seeing how they are projected from the synastry/what they mean in the natal. Composites cannot be interpreted by themselves; at least that's my opinion Also, you need very precise TOBs to interpret a composite. You do have a general vibe when looking at a composite, but it can be very misleading. For example, you can find Uranus on ASC and DSC, but in the synastry, both people have Uranus in aspect to ASC, DSC or Sun, so it's different when you interpret the composite Uranus for two Uranian people or the composite Saturn for two Saturnian people vs. an Uranus on the composite angle for two people who have no prominent Uranus in their natal charts.
Makes sense. Thank you! The TOB's are accurate for both composites. For kicks here is the synastry chart for the 2nd composite:  IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
Moderator Posts: 5141
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 12, 2014 02:26 PM
Not bad. Is it a friendship?------------------
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margym0o
Knowflake Posts: 128
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 12, 2014 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Not bad. Is it a friendship?
No, relationship. :S IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
Moderator Posts: 5141
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 12, 2014 02:38 PM
Again, not bad, overlays look good. With this synastry, it would be interesting to determine if there are minor aspects between Sun/Moon Venus/Mars and Saturn to luminaries. I'm sure you'll find interesting things.------------------
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margym0o
Knowflake Posts: 128
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 12, 2014 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Again, not bad, overlays look good. With this synastry, it would be interesting to determine if there are minor aspects between Sun/Moon Venus/Mars and Saturn to luminaries. I'm sure you'll find interesting things.
These are apparently the minor aspects according to Astrotheme and nothing really jumps out except the aspects to Saturn. Moon Inconjunction Uranus Orb 0°56'
Venus Inconjunction Moon Orb 1°03'
AS Inconjunction Pluto Orb 1°24'
Mars Inconjunction Jupiter Orb 1°53'
Uranus Inconjunction Sun Orb 2°41'
Mars SemiSquare Saturn Orb 0°19'
Moon SesquiQuadrate Neptune Orb 0°30'
Saturn Quintile Venus Orb 0°29'
Chiron SemiSextile MC Orb 0°01'
Pluto SemiSextile Moon Orb 0°38'
Neptune SemiSextile Moon Orb 1°24'
Chiron SemiSextile Sun Orb 1°32' IP: Logged |
starmoon
Knowflake Posts: 1313
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posted August 12, 2014 04:31 PM
the synastry isn't as bad as you said, but still a thumbs down for the composite and synastry. it's easy to see why the relationship happened though, with the angles in close proximity and the oppositions. but you've got some low points in the synastry too - the moons opposite, the sun opposite mars, and the venus opposite uranus, which all give immediate attraction, but tend to dissipate over time. the overlays are meh, only two good ones and they aren't reciprocal. you can see why it started but can also see why it wouldn't be lasting. the sun/venus conjunction is nice though and the mercury signs are in great position. those factors would have helped. lots of people are fans of oppositions, but when moon signs oppose it's not good for longevity of the romance, and that carried into the composite with no solid connections. IP: Logged |
margym0o
Knowflake Posts: 128
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 12, 2014 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
the synastry isn't as bad as you said, but still a thumbs down for the composite and synastry. it's easy to see why the relationship happened though, with the angles in close proximity and the oppositions. but you've got some low points in the synastry too - the moons opposite, the sun opposite mars, and the venus opposite uranus, which all give immediate attraction, but tend to dissipate over time. the overlays are meh, only two good ones and they aren't reciprocal. you can see why it started but can also see why it wouldn't be lasting. the sun/venus conjunction is nice though and the mercury signs are in great position. those factors would have helped. lots of people are fans of oppositions, but when moon signs oppose it's not good for longevity of the romance, and that carried into the composite with no solid connections.
Haha oops I probably should have pointed out that the 2nd composite and the synastry chart are of a relationship that is currently still going (6 months so far). The first composite was of the relationship that ended. Admittedly it does have its challenges but there is a lot of tender affection, respect for one another and commitment to the relationship (at least for right now :P). IP: Logged |
Venusincap89
Knowflake Posts: 528
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted August 12, 2014 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by margym0o:
These are apparently the minor aspects according to Astrotheme and nothing really jumps out except the aspects to Saturn.Moon Inconjunction Uranus Orb 0°56'
Venus Inconjunction Moon Orb 1°03'
AS Inconjunction Pluto Orb 1°24'
Mars Inconjunction Jupiter Orb 1°53'
Uranus Inconjunction Sun Orb 2°41'
Mars SemiSquare Saturn Orb 0°19'
Moon SesquiQuadrate Neptune Orb 0°30'
Saturn Quintile Venus Orb 0°29'
Chiron SemiSextile MC Orb 0°01'
Pluto SemiSextile Moon Orb 0°38'
Neptune SemiSextile Moon Orb 1°24'
Chiron SemiSextile Sun Orb 1°32'
sorry, how do you calculate the orbs?
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margym0o
Knowflake Posts: 128
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 12, 2014 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
sorry, how do you calculate the orbs?
I just copy and pasted this list out of the chart that Astrotheme generated for me IP: Logged |
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