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moonstruck87
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posted August 14, 2014 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstruck87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought he was born at 2:05 pm, apparently it was 2:05 am...so instead of Gemini Asc he is a Scorpio asc...makes.so.much.sense!

I've always had a hard time being objective looking at his chart and our chart together. We were together for approx 2 years total, married only 6mons and we have one child. He deceived me (short story) and we are stuck together now because of our child. He has stalked me, tried to humiliate me and I have been physically agressive towards him and I have always said he brings out the WORST in me. I've never felt more angry or irritated by anyone. We were obsessed with each other at first. To say the least, it's a draining relationship even still and has a major psychological impact on both of us.

I've had a hard time being objective because of what we've been thru so I am posting these charts to see what stands out to you all?
Thank you

his natal

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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 14, 2014 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The aggressiveness comes from your own Mars/Pluto square, it's a personal issue; and he triggered that with his Sun/Saturn square. Were you by any chance most irritated by his manner of thinking/speaking/perhaps mannerisms? And perhaps how he behaved in public?

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moonstruck87
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posted August 14, 2014 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstruck87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
The aggressiveness comes from your own Mars/Pluto square, it's a personal issue; and he triggered that with his Sun/Saturn square. Were you by any chance most irritated by his manner of thinking/speaking/perhaps mannerisms? And perhaps how he behaved in public?


it's ironic bc when I read about that aspect in my chart it seems nothing like me. Most people describe me as very chill, diplomatic and polite but YES, he definitely irritated me beyond belief. He mostly irritated me one on one...not in public. I often said I didn't feel like myself with him.
that aspect is one I have studied a bit more than others and besides having it expressed in this particular relationship, I could feel myself feel suspicious or scared a lot. Ever since childhood I've been afraid of burglary or being attacked.

He was also very volatile towards me also...more so on a verbal level though and seemed to enjoy provoking me to anger. There would be times I would be minding my own business and he would mention things he knew disturbed me.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 14, 2014 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So he did trigger you by words (because his Saturn rules his 3rd)

It's interesting what you say about fear of burglary and attacks - it's a passive aggressive thing, just like when we are violent inside, we have accumulated aggressiveness and we dream about being attacked by someone. I hope you didn't understand it in a judgmental way, about Mars/Pluto, it's not like it's your fault or something to have this aspect It's a great aspect, but it requires for you to be "aggressive" somehow, in a controlled way: like a sport or martial arts etc. I think it's an aspect that gives a lot of physical stamina and an imperious need to practice some intense physical activities. It gives physical strength above average.

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starmoon
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posted August 14, 2014 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there are a few things but the synastry is pretty bad imo. i don't even see why you would have been drawn to each other. the biggest red flag is his mercury sitting opposite your own mercury and venus. you can't have a healthy relationship with the mercury signs in opposition like that, it doesn't work. the partners push each other's buttons and when the mercury is opposite the venus you have someone who doesn't consider their loved one in terms of communication. mercury opp. mercury is probably one of the worst aspects you can have in a love relationship. adding to that communication issue is his moon in the sign of gemini and the venus/sun in aqua. just too much verbal stuff and not in a way that would be ok with you because of the cancer placements. you'd need a more gentle person

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HelixID
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posted August 16, 2014 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HelixID     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like some parts of it. Just to name a few:

You have Mars sq Pluto = he has Scorpio Asc
You have Cancer Dsc = he has Mars sq Moon - reverse that aspect back to you and we see you have an Aries Moon.

So you two have what the other needs but it was never going to be easy because your natals aren't easy.

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MiaPluto
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posted August 16, 2014 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiaPluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The reason he pushes your buttons is because of your mars square his pluto.

I have a mars/pluto conjunction with my mom. I'm the pluto, her the mars.

I don't know why, but for some reason she becomes really angry with me. Sometimes I don't understand what I do to make her angry.

It must be the same with you two.

His pluto makes your mars really angry with that square.

He makes you angry from the core. He may not realize that.

I have a lot of pluto/mars and jupiter/pluto aspect with my celebrity crush, it's double whammy and that's why I'm obsessed with him like crazy.

It's a very special relationship, those with pluto aspects.

There is obsession, fear of letting go of each other, bring out things in each other from the core. It's so special.

If you've read/seen the movie/book wuthering heights, you'll understand pluto/moon/venus in it.

Heathcliff can't let go of Kathy, neither can she. It was an obsessive love, that was about the real heart (moon).

That movie still makes me cry every time I watch it. My favourite version is the 1998 version of the movie.

Pluto is real love. It's the most profound planet in our solar system.

He may really annoy you, but if he goes away, you'll miss everything about each other, even the bad things.

Pluto never forgets. It clings with the other person for life, it can't let go. It's obsession/love/care/etc.

It's once in a lifetime.

xx

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IndigoDirae
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posted August 16, 2014 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PLUTO-MARS takes brutal honesty -- emotional honesty -- and the willingness to explore the depths of intimacy.

Tough stuff.

But once you've actually started delving, it can be amazing. Not for the faint of heart, or immature.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 17, 2014 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MiaPluto:
The reason he pushes your buttons is because of your mars square his pluto.

I have a mars/pluto conjunction with my mom. I'm the pluto, her the mars.

I don't know why, but for some reason she becomes really angry with me. Sometimes I don't understand what I do to make her angry.

It must be the same with you two.

His pluto makes your mars really angry with that square.

He makes you angry from the core. He may not realize that.

I have a lot of pluto/mars and jupiter/pluto aspect with my celebrity crush, it's double whammy and that's why I'm obsessed with him like crazy.

It's a very special relationship, those with pluto aspects.

There is obsession, fear of letting go of each other, bring out things in each other from the core. It's so special.

If you've read/seen the movie/book wuthering heights, you'll understand pluto/moon/venus in it.

Heathcliff can't let go of Kathy, neither can she. It was an obsessive love, that was about the real heart (moon).

That movie still makes me cry every time I watch it. My favourite version is the 1998 version of the movie.

Pluto is real love. It's the most profound planet in our solar system.

He may really annoy you, but if he goes away, you'll miss everything about each other, even the bad things.

Pluto never forgets. It clings with the other person for life, it can't let go. It's obsession/love/care/etc.

It's once in a lifetime.

xx


Would you like to make a thread with your synastry (you and your mother's)? Perhaps you'll get some guidance from the astrologers here.

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