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amelia28
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posted August 14, 2014 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asteroid Paradise 2791: When you are w/ them it feels like heaven on earth!

What is it doing in your synastry?

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posted August 14, 2014 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Paradise 29 Libra cj Aphrodite (1) oppose Ceres (0) square Hypnos (0) and Hyperborea (0) trine vertex (0) inconjunct Cupido (0). In his chart cj Hyperborea (0) and Anteros (0) trine Knight (0) inconjunct Nymphe (0).

His Paradise 7 Aries cj Osiris and Ceres (0), oppose Horus (0) and Destinn (1). His Paradise/Osiris conjunction opposes my Isis (1.5) square my Destinn (1), Aura (0) and Reiki (0) trine Siva (1).

I just mentioned the song Sparks by Coldplay on the other thread and they have another song called Paradise, lol.

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posted August 14, 2014 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
My Paradise 29 Libra cj Aphrodite (1) oppose Ceres (0) square Hypnos (0) and Hyperborea (0) trine vertex (0) inconjunct Cupido (0). In his chart cj Hyperborea (0) and Anteros (0) trine Knight (0) inconjunct Nymphe (0).

His Paradise 7 Aries cj Osiris and Ceres (0), oppose Horus (0) and Destinn (1). His Paradise/Osiris conjunction opposes my Isis (1.5) square my Destinn (1), Aura (0) and Reiki (0) trine Siva (1).

I just mentioned the song Sparks by Coldplay on the other thread and they have another song called Paradise, lol.


LOL hahaha what a coincidence!

I love coldplay but hadn't heard of paradise. I just did and its beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G4isv_Fylg


Wow that paradise conjunct osiris opposing isis must be amazing!!!!!!! How do you think it manifests? is he your ideal and makes you feel like heaven when you are together but you fear this at the same time so there is a tug of war bt the two? just wondering....


Its weird my paradise conjuncts exact both chiron and part of fortune in the 6th. I guess that is why I like the phrase "beautiful disaster" so much.

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posted August 15, 2014 04:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol

my PARADISE is on 23 Cap conj. my Avx and Sun/Moon-mp (2), opposing Eros (2) and Destinn (0), and maybe more importantly it is conjunct HIS Venus (2), square his Pluto (2), sextile his ASC (2) and conjunct composite Moon exact, squaring c-Mars.
trine c-Juno exact, too.


His PARADISE is on 5 Aries, conjunct my IC exact. trine my Mars exact, square my Venus, conjunct my Aura, Gaia, Magion, Chlariklo and some others. lol


In composite it is on 29 Aquarius in 1st house opposing DESTINN on 29 Leo exact. This is interesting as it harmonizes our Chiron-ATropos on 29 Aries opposing Union on 29 Libra.

So dealing with unavoidable pain really is a way to reach paradise?


The Davison has a close Grand trine of:

Paradise 4 Virgo 8th house
Chiron 4 Taurus 3rd house
Eros 3 Capricorn 12th house

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posted August 15, 2014 07:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love this one, Amelia, thanks for reminding me

I like it because we both have Paradise conjunct NN, my NN/POF a bit wider, his Paradise conjuncts his NN exact. Paradise conjunct Paradise. Which gives in the composite a conjunction of NN and Paradise (3). Also, Paradise opposes composite Sun exact (we have the Sun on composite SN): Sun 21.04 Gem, Paradise 21.30 Sag, in the 1st house.

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posted August 15, 2014 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Asteroid Paradise 2791: When you are w/ them it feels like heaven on earth!

I'd refrain from such definite statements before doing research

To those who believe in Karma - what could Paradise on Karma (3 minutes) mean? In a natal chart. Not that I started to believe it

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posted August 15, 2014 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
LOL hahaha what a coincidence!

I love coldplay but hadn't heard of paradise. I just did and its beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G4isv_Fylg


Wow that paradise conjunct osiris opposing isis must be amazing!!!!!!! How do you think it manifests? is he your ideal and makes you feel like heaven when you are together but you fear this at the same time so there is a tug of war bt the two? just wondering....


Its weird my paradise conjuncts exact both chiron and part of fortune in the 6th. I guess that is why I like the phrase "beautiful disaster" so much.


"Beautiful Disaster" another great song, lol! (The 311 version). Paradise on Chiron, you will transform all your wounds? Paradise through healing?

You really hit it with that interpretation. Yes, he is my ideal man. I've said before that I would choose him over any actor, rockstar or model. At the same time, it is very scary to be so drawn to someone and frankly sometimes it ****** me off that he can have that much power over me, lol.

I think Paradise cj Hyperborea (and squaring mine) is kind of cool since Hyperborea is considered a type of paradise.

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posted August 15, 2014 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
[QUOTE]Asteroid Paradise 2791: When you are w/ them it feels like heaven on earth!

I'd refrain from such definite statements before doing research

To those who believe in Karma - what could Paradise on Karma (3 minutes) mean? In a natal chart. Not that I started to believe it

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Maybe you have some good karma coming to you in this life Cappy? If you believed in that sort of thing...

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posted August 15, 2014 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
[QUOTE]Asteroid Paradise 2791: When you are w/ them it feels like heaven on earth!

I'd refrain from such definite statements before doing research

To those who believe in Karma - what could Paradise on Karma (3 minutes) mean? In a natal chart. Not that I started to believe it

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The whole point of the thread is too see if others feel paradise is like that for them in synastry or what is like for them in natal even. I find description fits for me hence why I started the thread to see if others concur. Both guys that make me feel this way I have some nice paradise aspects with.

What are forums for? to discuss and explore, specially in reference to asteroids. This is not a journal article that I am publishing in here nor would I say that this is a valid way of conducting a controlled experiment; its exploratory and its a start that is all.

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posted August 15, 2014 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this thread has a reasearch purpose and maybe this asteroid works for you but throwing such statements before anyone said anything isn't too pro. That's all I'm saying. Never mind, I didn't meant to poop the party, have fun


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Maybe you have some good karma coming to you in this life Cappy?

It must be moving like a snail
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posted August 15, 2014 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plenty of people start threads similar to mine all the time; other mods and non-mods. The topic of TF is very hypothetical but is treated as fact by many for example.

I feel my statement is fine because is what I think and I think the responsibility falls on each individual to do their own research on what I am saying and the response of others to my thread and come up with their own conclusions.

The forum is a safe place for people to explore ideas without committing fully to it and I am utilizing it as such.

A simple google search would confirm very quickly that there is very little to no information on the asteroid paradise. An individual is responsible for doing their own research and can choose to participate in my thread keeping in mind this is exploratory after confirming that there isn't much research on the matter relatively quickly. I don't have to spell this out though for anyone, the responsibility lies on the individual to do their own research.

I think is good to be supportive towards people who take initiative in exploring astrology; I don't think is a bad thing at all personally and enjoy it when people do this overall.

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posted August 15, 2014 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I know this thread has a reasearch purpose and maybe this asteroid works for you but throwing such statements before anyone said anything isn't too pro. That's all I'm saying. Never mind, I didn't meant to poop the party, have fun


[QUOTE]Maybe you have some good karma coming to you in this life Cappy?



It must be moving like a snail
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Karma conjunct paradise makes me think that there will be some nice rewards but ONLY after you have worked out your karma in this life so something to look forward to perhaps...

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posted August 16, 2014 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
"Beautiful Disaster" another great song, lol! (The 311 version). Paradise on Chiron, you will transform all your wounds? Paradise through healing?

You really hit it with that interpretation. Yes, he is my ideal man. I've said before that I would choose him over any actor, rockstar or model. At the same time, it is very scary to be so drawn to someone and frankly sometimes it ****** me off that he can have that much power over me, lol.

I think Paradise cj Hyperborea (and squaring mine) is kind of cool since Hyperborea is considered a type of paradise.


I have been thinking a lot about what paradise conjunct chiron exact can mean. I think chiron are wounds we can't never fully heal but those wounds make us compassionate and human; gives us an ability to connect with other people's pain. We all have something in common in this world; we have all experienced pain.

The relationship in my life that has had the most power over me is with my ex and I often describe my experience with him with the theme of "heaven and hell." His brought the most joy to my life and also the most pain. When I am with him I feel like I am in heaven; he is my heaven but when I am not with him it feels the exact opposite, just pain. Sometimes when I am with him intimately I feel both paradise followed by chiron. E.g. Like been with him is so beautiful that once the act ends I feel pain bc is over and our bodies separate. “Beautiful Disaster” and “BitterSweet” are themes I gravitate towards.


His Draco Juno conjuncts exact my Geo Tropic chiron/paradise. (draco to natal synastry)

His eros in sag opposes by 1 orb my chiron/paradise conjunction.

His eros conjuncts my chart ruler jupiter and uranus.

His eros incojuncts my Juno.

His eros trines my eros/angel.

My psyche conjuncts his sun/uranus by one orb.

His psyche conjuncts my northnode exact and squares my mercury and moon.

My Priapus conjuncts exact his Isis.

His Priapus conjuncts tightly my Osiris and Sappho.

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I thinks these aspects really sum up our relationship.

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In conclusion I feel chiron conjunct paradise represents that the thing that gives you the most pain is also what gives you the most joy. I always say heaven and hell can be experienced right here on earth.

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In the Draco, his NN/Paradise of course conjuncts my NN/POF on 0 Aries and my Paradise conjuncts his IC exact and Composite Draco Sun conjuncts Paradise by 20 minutes

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Originally posted by amelia28:
I have been thinking a lot about what paradise conjunct chiron exact can mean. I think chiron are wounds we can't never fully heal but those wounds make us compassionate and human; gives us an ability to connect with other people's pain. We all have something in common in this world; we have all experienced pain.

The relationship in my life that has had the most power over me is with my ex and I often describe my experience with him with the theme of "heaven and hell." His brought the most joy to my life and also the most pain. When I am with him I feel like I am in heaven; he is my heaven but when I am not with him it feels the exact opposite, just pain. Sometimes when I am with him intimately I feel both paradise followed by chiron. E.g. Like been with him is so beautiful that once the act ends I feel pain bc is over and our bodies separate. “Beautiful Disaster” and “BitterSweet” are themes I gravitate towards.


His Draco Juno conjuncts exact my Geo Tropic chiron/paradise. (draco to natal synastry)

His eros in sag opposes by 1 orb my chiron/paradise conjunction.

His eros conjuncts my chart ruler jupiter and uranus.

His eros incojuncts my Juno.

His eros trines my eros/angel.

My psyche conjuncts his sun/uranus by one orb.

His psyche conjuncts my northnode exact and squares my mercury and moon.

My Priapus conjuncts exact his Isis.

His Priapus conjuncts tightly my Osiris and Sappho.



Chiron can teach you how to reach Paradise

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posted August 16, 2014 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
In the Draco, his NN/Paradise of course conjuncts my NN/POF on 0 Aries and my Paradise conjuncts his IC exact and Composite Draco Sun conjuncts Paradise by 20 minutes


NN in Draco is always at 0 degrees aries but still that is pretty cool bc that means his paradise conjuncts your POF couples with composite sun/paradise perhaps means you two attract positive things/experiences to each other when together and the relationship has a positive vibe of a fresh new beginning.

The paradise conjunct his IC, You make him feel like heaven and to him you feel like "coming home" I would think.

Draconic charts have the same aspects but the signs and degrees change so its very useful and telling for synastry whether draco to draco synastry or draco to geo tropic but draco to geo tropic allows the energy from draco to draco synastry to come to live. I think that is how Ceri has explained it.

Its also very useful to look at draco to natal to check for talents lets say or your life path and fate...

But if you have draco composite sun conjunct paradise you also have it in geo tropic composite.

I Hope I explained this clearly.

I have juno conjunct paradise with my husband in composite in the 5th. I wouldn't say our marriage is paradise but everytime I see him I feel happy and he makes life on earth much more pleasant! I dont have very interesing synastry aspects with him though involving paradise except his knight conjuncts exact my paradise/chiron and his paradise sextiles my saturn.

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Thanks for the insight, Amelia I love your description about "coming home". Yes, I know about 0 Aries.

Comparing Draco to geo:

his geo Paradise/NN conjuncts my Draco Venus (making a lot of aspects from there)
my Draco Paradise opp our geo Pluto
his Draco Paradise on his geo DSC opp my geo Mars/Union exact

I like the Venus/Mars interplay.

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posted August 16, 2014 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Chiron can teach you how to reach Paradise



Come to think of it you interpretation does go nicely with chiron's role as the rainbow who bridges personal planets with outer/generational planets.

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posted August 16, 2014 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thanks for the insight, Amelia I love your description about "coming home". Yes, I know about 0 Aries.

Comparing Draco to geo:

his geo Paradise/NN conjuncts my Draco Venus (making a lot of aspects from there)
my Draco Paradise opp our geo Pluto
his Draco Paradise on his geo DSC opp my geo Mars/Union exact

I like the Venus/Mars interplay.



WOW I really love the paradise/nn to venus. I find that geo to draco synastry aspects are RARE but more potent/meaningful than geo to geo synastry aspects.

I think that is a beautiful aspect LeeLoo, truly. I feel he will reach paradise through your love and also that you are in his life to teach him how to love and help him reach paradise through this fated love union.

I do agree that is a very nice mars/venus interplay.

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posted August 16, 2014 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
I have been thinking a lot about what paradise conjunct chiron exact can mean. I think chiron are wounds we can't never fully heal but those wounds make us compassionate and human; gives us an ability to connect with other people's pain. We all have something in common in this world; we have all experienced pain.

The relationship in my life that has had the most power over me is with my ex and I often describe my experience with him with the theme of "heaven and hell." His brought the most joy to my life and also the most pain. When I am with him I feel like I am in heaven; he is my heaven but when I am not with him it feels the exact opposite, just pain. Sometimes when I am with him intimately I feel both paradise followed by chiron. E.g. Like been with him is so beautiful that once the act ends I feel pain bc is over and our bodies separate. “Beautiful Disaster” and “BitterSweet” are themes I gravitate towards.


His Draco Juno conjuncts exact my Geo Tropic chiron/paradise. (draco to natal synastry)

His eros in sag opposes by 1 orb my chiron/paradise conjunction.

His eros conjuncts my chart ruler jupiter and uranus.

His eros incojuncts my Juno.

His eros trines my eros/angel.

My psyche conjuncts his sun/uranus by one orb.

His psyche conjuncts my northnode exact and squares my mercury and moon.

My Priapus conjuncts exact his Isis.

His Priapus conjuncts tightly my Osiris and Sappho.


That's so beautiful, Amelia! Sad but beautiful...

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WOW I really love the paradise/nn to venus. I find that geo to draco synastry aspects are RARE but more potent/meaningful than geo to geo synastry aspects.

I think that is a beautiful aspect LeeLoo, truly. I feel he will reach paradise through your love and also that you are in his life to teach him how to love and help him reach paradise through this fated love union.

I do agree that is a very nice mars/venus interplay.


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posted August 18, 2014 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's so beautiful, Amelia! Sad but beautiful...

Thanks Karmicmoon . It is what it is, I guess healing is learning to accept it as is and focus on the beauty of it.

This describes chiron conjunct paradise I feel LOL:

Zeed - Clarity

ZEDD LYRICS
"Clarity"
(feat. Foxes)

High dive into frozen waves where the past comes back to life
Fight fear for the selfish pain, it was worth it every time
Hold still right before we crash 'cause we both know how this ends
A clock ticks 'til it breaks your glass and I drown in you again

'Cause you are the piece of me I wish I didn't need
Chasing relentlessly, still fight and I don't know why

If our love is tragedy, why are you my remedy?
If our love's insanity, why are you my clarity?

(Hey-ay, hey-ay-ay. Hey-ay, hey-ay-ay. Hey-ay, hey-ay-ay. Hey-ay, hey)

If our love is tragedy, why are you my remedy?
If our love's insanity, why are you my clarity?

Walk on through a red parade and refuse to make amends
It cuts deep through our ground and makes us forget all common sense
Don't speak as I try to leave 'cause we both know what we'll choose
If you pull then I'll push too deep and I'll fall right back to you

'Cause you are the piece of me I wish I didn't need
Chasing relentlessly, still fight and I don't know why

If our love is tragedy, why are you my remedy?
If our love's insanity, why are you my clarity?

(Hey-ay, hey-ay-ay. Hey-ay, hey-ay-ay. Hey-ay, hey-ay-ay. Hey-ay, hey)

Why are you my clarity?
Why are you my remedy?
Why are you my clarity?
Why are you my remedy?

If our love is tragedy, why are you my remedy?
If our love's insanity, why are you my clarity?

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Hm I just found out that our Paradises are conjunct exact in my current synastry, and his Karma is conjunct my Paradise (and his Paradise as well). All within 1* orb.

Does it mean anything?

And his Draco Paradise and Karma are conjunct my natal Juno exact.

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