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margym0o
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posted August 15, 2014 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sun/moon midpoint is 10 deg. Virgo 69 and my partner's is 21 deg. Gemini 12, but that's as far as I've gotten.

Are there any websites that will generate a chart to show which aspects are made to either of our midpoints in synastry without having to manually figure it out? I'm not quite there yet

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posted August 15, 2014 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Peluches
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posted August 15, 2014 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Margym0o :)

I don't know any website that has that option but for my and my Scorp's midpoints, I was lucky enough to find one of my own asteroids that conjuncts my midpoint more or less exactly (0 degrees for my midpoint, 2 for his). You can try that way (even a planet/asteroid of partner A conjuncting partner B's midpoint will do : look at the natal chart of partner A for the aspects).

Or if you want I can do it manually for you if it can save you some time. :))

Hope that helps ! :3

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posted August 15, 2014 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can manually figure it out for you, give me both of your birth data info

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I'm so cappy
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posted August 15, 2014 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Come on, it's very easy if you know the relationship between signs and elements

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margym0o
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posted August 15, 2014 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll leave it to the experts

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libran_dream
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posted August 15, 2014 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libran_dream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to do mine manually...fun times.

Here's a cheat that's actually really quick and easy but it's gotten out of use since we all use computers now:
Print out your chart. Take a compass. Using basic elementary school geometry find the midpoints.
Then from each midpoint, set the compass to each aspect/angle in turn, and see what it touches. Super easy.

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posted August 15, 2014 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love Astroblahhh when I'm feeling lazy.

Astroblahhh.com Aspect Calculator

But I can tell you right off; that's a binovile. I've got one between my ASC (10º VIR 43') and my husband's SUN (23º GEM).

It doesn't have everything, so pay attention to the actual degrees and angles. It's pretty thorough, though. Wish he'd add quindecile!

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posted August 15, 2014 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by libran_dream:
I used to do mine manually...fun times.

Here's a cheat that's actually really quick and easy but it's gotten out of use since we all use computers now:
Print out your chart. Take a compass. Using basic elementary school geometry find the midpoints.
Then from each midpoint, set the compass to each aspect/angle in turn, and see what it touches. Super easy.


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margym0o
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posted August 15, 2014 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I love Astroblahhh when I'm feeling lazy.

Astroblahhh.com Aspect Calculator

But I can tell you right off; that's a binovile. I've got one between my ASC (10º VIR 43') and my husband's SUN (23º GEM).

It doesn't have everything, so pay attention to the actual degrees and angles. It's pretty thorough, though. Wish he'd add quindecile!


Indeed it is! I'm guessing it's of little significance since it's such a minor aspect?

What about the aspects the midpoints make to other planets etc.?

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posted August 15, 2014 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by margym0o:
Indeed it is! I'm guessing it's of little significance since it's such a minor aspect?

What about the aspects the midpoints make to other planets etc.?


Binovile? Well, typically if it's 'bi' or 'tri', I'm pretty meh on it. But then again, I'm also '3º sextile? Pffffh,' these days. And semisextile? ... whatever.

Really, I'd say dig into the actual symbolism of the aspects themselves. WHAT the novile represents.

Here's a smattering; one site of which I'm rather fond.
http://johnsandbach.com/?p=193

And AdZe's always put it in to plain English. Love that guy.
http://www.adze.com/Classroom/aspects.html

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posted August 15, 2014 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For example, noviles can be 'related to marriage'. Which I found myself rather sceptical regarding -- but then it IS my husband's SUN with my ASC. Who knows?

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Astro keen
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posted August 15, 2014 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't this available in Astro.com?

Extended chart selection
Then Pullen astrology
Then click on Aspect/mid point grid chart from the drop down menu.

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posted August 15, 2014 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But astro won't do a midpoint synastry.

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posted August 15, 2014 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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loffra180
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posted August 15, 2014 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for loffra180     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My BML (21 Sag) is 2 degrees conjunct my Sun-Moon MP (23 Sag), so I use that for looking at aspects that are going to hit the MP.

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IndigoDirae
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posted August 15, 2014 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, it's unfortunately limited. Otherwise, I'm a big fan of Astrodienst. They're the bees knees.

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KarmicMoon
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posted August 15, 2014 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not familiar with midpoints so forgive my ignorance here. Aspects other than a conjunction can trigger a midpoint?

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KarkaQueen
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posted August 15, 2014 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no locations margym

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margym0o
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posted August 15, 2014 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
no locations margym

Oops sorry Toronto, Ontario for both.

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posted August 15, 2014 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
I'm not familiar with midpoints so forgive my ignorance here. :) Aspects other than a conjunction can trigger a midpoint?

I accept only hard aspects to midpoints (conjunctions, oppositions, squares) and with an orb of 3 degrees maximum. :)
For Sun/Moon midpoints, I compare natal midpoints to natal suns and moons, and composite midpoint to natal suns and moons. I think when you have at least one of those with a tight orb, the relationship is significant.

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KarmicMoon
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posted August 15, 2014 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Peluches:
I accept only hard aspects to midpoints (conjunctions, oppositions, squares) and with an orb of 3 degrees maximum.
For Sun/Moon midpoints, I compare natal midpoints to natal suns and moons, and composite midpoint to natal suns and moons. I think when you have at least one of those with a tight orb, the relationship is significant.

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Thank you. Do you only use Sun/Moon midpoints or do you consider others?

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